Made-in-the-USA-by-robots Craftsman tool sets are being sold, but quality is highly variable.
Craftsman Made in USA Tool Sets are Finally Available!
The 88pc and 59pc tool sets are now available.
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Our addiction to the Chinese war machine shines in your last statement. Yeah I know Taiwan sells lots of stuff, etc. but the lack of ability to compete domestically is a big issue and may be a bigger one before long.WSJ had a similar article. Great intentions. $90 million invested.
But the bet on robotic production for what remains an art (forging) didn’t work out.
Among many other problems, without the cost savings from that automation, it wasn’t competitive.
The last time I bought Milwaukee 12" and 9" reciprocating pruning blades about a year or two ago, they were made in Switzerland. The Freud Diablo blades I bought 4 weeks ago were made in the USA and Switzerland.Not sockets but Milwaukee claims to be making some stuff in the US now (not sure if they're still making recip blades and hole saws here?):
The Milwaukee hammer drill bits Ive bought have all been German made.The last time I bought Milwaukee 12" and 9" reciprocating blades about a year ago, they were made in Switzerland. The Freud Diablo blades I bought 4 weeks ago were made in the USA and Switzerland.
Among many other problems, without the cost savings from that automation, it wasn’t competitive.
Unlike some (or many) here, I am not convinced that we necessarily need to compete in this area. Fundamentally, economies can shift over time and they have.Our addiction to the Chinese war machine shines in your last statement. Yeah I know Taiwan sells lots of stuff, etc. but the lack of ability to compete domestically is a big issue and may be a bigger one before long.
Unlike some (or many) here, I am not convinced that we necessarily need to compete in this area. Fundamentally, economies can shift over time and they have.
Dont bother buying Snap on or any other tool truck brand, Japanese or German made tools then. Granted Taiwan is making some decent tools but Taiwan made tools do not do US workers any good. A country cannot thrive very long on a mostly service economy.Truthfully, I really have not seen any evidence that the USA made items are of better workmanship than the Taiwanese tools. Besides, tool design follows the manufacturer and design, not place of assembly.
Yes and no when they had a legit pro line they were made by manufacturers like SK, Western Forge, JH Williams, etc and they were better than mid grade tools. I still have a set of Craftsman pro wrenches that have a small "K" stamped in them, they are SK from a time when SK were still a premium brand.Furthermore, Craftsman has always been a mid-grade brand that was priced appropriately. Given the costs of USA labor, it just doesn't make sense to produce a mid-grade line of tools in an area with high labor costs. Taiwan has always been the leader in this segment of the market and has executed it extremely well.
Now you're being dramatic...Going by that we dont need to compete in any area.
Manufacturing is not the only industry that provides jobs.It is about jobs period end of story, when companies produce an item the associated support businesses also produce materials and jobs.
Nowhere did I say that Taiwanese tools are the only tools that should be relevant. My point was that Taiwan is currently making the most cost-effective (and financially sustainable) mid-grade tools. The cost-structure makes sense. In order to compete at that price point, your manufacturing costs have to be competitive.Dont bother buying Snap on or any other tool truck brand, Japanese or German made tools then.
That is strictly your opinion.but Taiwan made tools do not do US workers any good. A country cannot thrive very long on a mostly service economy.
Oh I see disagree and you are being dramatic, look at the list of things that are no longer made in the USA from appliances, basic building materials, OPE, many car and machine parts, power tools. The problem is not just that the Chicoms have taken over the manufacturing but bought US companies to do it. Taiwan is done, one invasion and it will be controlled by the CCP.Now you're being dramatic...
Manufacturing is not the only industry that provides jobs.
Nowhere did I say that Taiwanese tools are the only tools that should be relevant. My point was that Taiwan is currently making the most cost-effective (and financially sustainable) mid-grade tools. The cost-structure makes sense. In order to compete at that price point, your manufacturing costs have to be competitive.
That is strictly your opinion.
That is a bit of a dated philosophy, but you're entitled to your opinion. Building an entire economy around manufacturing would essentially require compromises in other areas that we have made significant strides in. There is a lot of role sharing in modern day manufacturing as well - it isn't always realistic (or efficient) to have both the raw materials and the final assembly in a single country. And then we get back to the cost issue - it ultimately has to make sense.Manufacturing is what provides the countries security and has provided security for other countries involved in conflict.
Imagine if in WWII The Germans and Japanese controlled controlled everything we buy.
Do a little research on service economies and their deindustrialization.
No need for apologies. I am willing to bet someone in the USA gov was involved and likely got their monies out before the collapse.Apologies in advance for being so cynical, but I’m guessing there are a handful of people who made a ton of money off of this failure.
Very true. Going back to a heavily manufacturing oriented economy would require compromises. Not that it’s not doable in a country of 350M people and lots of space. Germany and Japan are probably the two best examples of balance. And with much more in the way of population, space, energy, resources, etc., the USA certainly would have a different paradigm.That is a bit of a dated philosophy, but you're entitled to your opinion. Building an entire economy around manufacturing would essentially require compromises in other areas that we have made significant strides in. There is a lot of role sharing in modern day manufacturing as well - it isn't always realistic (or efficient) to have both the raw materials and the final assembly in a single country. And then we get back to the cost issue - it ultimately has to make sense.
Why is it dumb to automate production, especially on such simple items as wrenches and other similar tools?I never realized they were trying to make it automated. That’s dumb on their part in my opinion. I was looking forward to the new tools.
Less jobs for American workers.Why is it dumb to automate production, especially on such simple items as wrenches and other similar tools?
True, but it probably depends upon what they wished to automate. Which I’m not sure we really know or understand…Less jobs for American workers.