NextGen Synpower

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Originally Posted By: dave1251
I am just trying to imagine what some trolls will come on here once this comes out and state this is some "watery trash oil" because it is from 50% recycled basestocks.




You know thats gonna happen.
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Or the old "I`m not impressed with Valvoline`s number`s stuff"
 
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Originally Posted By: MBS500
Hmm I hang out on other forums too,and travel, and can say that Valvoline is Highly respected in Central and Eastern Europe...



That`s good to hear. Because I always thought Castrol pretty much had the market over there.
 
"SynPower" + NextGen would indicated to me that they were using all previously used synthetic oil to recycle, refine(?) or re-refine(?)...

Now, 'zactly how doze de' doo dat?

Cheers!
 
I find it hard to believe that they can sufficiently separate the hydrocarbons that look like synthetic molecules in terms of form and/or functional groups from the rest.

Blend in 50% new grp III, IV, V basestock, but youll still have some non-syn content that is non-trivial.

Perhaps they add the additives some other way to make use of a component of non "syn" basestock as the additive solubility improver?
 
I see NextGen SynPower as a marketing problem for Valvoline. They call it a "Full Synthetic" oil. But if 50% of the oil is previously refined and used by another process, it may "water down" the meaning of "Full Synthetic" to the average consumer.

I imagine most people think that a "full synthetic" oil is produced completely in a lab somewhere; a NextGen synthetic may introduce some confusion on what exactly a "full synthetic" is to the average consumer.

I don't want to re-hash the legal difference between synthetic and otherwise; we all know the deal on here. This is why I use the term "average consumer". The average consumer may not know the distinction, and may be confused by the terms.
 
If its FAR or less than $2/qt then I'll be stocking up. But I still have lots of QSUD that I got for 1.75/qt I need to use up! lol
 
Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd


I don't want to re-hash the legal difference between synthetic and otherwise; we all know the deal on here. This is why I use the term "average consumer". The average consumer may not know the distinction, and may be confused by the terms.


There is no legal definition, as there was never a decision at law.

And the average consumer just takes stuff by the nameplate.

I think it would be doable, but valvoline would need to convince me with the basis of unit ops used and then a chromatographic/spectrographic basis for non grp 3 or better fluids being only a very small minority content.

BTW, a naturally occurring hydrocarbon chain can look identical to a synthesized one and be the exact chemical composition. Is one inferior? It's all about amounts.
 
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