NextGen Synpower

[Since1941]

Was reading somewhere, that they were working on NextGEN Synpower. So I called Valvoline tech support, and the guy said they were working on getting it rolled out!

Pretty sweet if you ask me. I will be running this for sure when it hits. I want to do all I can to help conserve resources, and Valvoline also works excellent in every application I have used it in.

 

[dave1251]

I am just trying to imagine what some trolls will come on here once this comes out and state this is some "watery trash oil" because it is from 50% recycled basestocks.

 

[DemoFly]

Would be a pretty good competitor to Supertech synthetic.

 

[dave1251]

Under some circumstances Supertech is "superior" to Mobil One. What are you trying to state?

 

[Since1941]

I do not understand how people can bash Valvoline. I do not have a brand loyalty. However, it is clear fact, that Valvoline, and Synpower nonetheless, produce some of the nicest UOA's. Yes, they may only be for 5k drain intervals, but for some people, that is perfect.

 

[DragRace]

Originally Posted By: Since1941
I do not understand how people can bash Valvoline. I do not have a brand loyalty. However, it is clear fact, that Valvoline, and Synpower nonetheless, produce some of the nicest UOA's. Yes, they may only be for 5k drain intervals, but for some people, that is perfect.


Nothing wrong with valvoline,trust me.This forum has so many haters of various oils,and most if you asked them why,they couldnt give you a concrete answer. This forum is useful,but lately,alot of info people provide is nothin more then opinion and nothin more.Or,you have people reccomending oils in a application they have no clue about.

 

[ltslimjim]

I asked this exact question during the Q&A with Valvoline.

They said at this time they have the ability, but it's cost prohibitive to create NextGen SynPower at this time. That was their answer essentially.

 

[DemoFly]

Originally Posted By: dave1251
Under some circumstances Supertech is "superior" to Mobil One. What are you trying to state?

Price. I am assuming there will be rebates for NextGen Synpower just like there is for conventional.

I know Supertech is a good oil. So is Valvoline.

 

[Zako2]

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I am sure that conventional NextGen rebates are used temporarily so that consumers would take notice and start using it. Giving oil away almost for free doesn't seem like a good model for making profits.

It does seem bold of Valvoline to introduce a synthetic re-refined product, if this rumor is true. I suspect that their product will be good, but to get it to consumers, all the stores have to be convinced to provide more shelf space for another Valvoline product line, and then consumers have to be convinced to buy it instead of the regular Synpower.

 

[fdcg27]

Originally Posted By: dave1251
I am just trying to imagine what some trolls will come on here once this comes out and state this is some "watery trash oil" because it is from 50% recycled basestocks.


Probably the same folks who did the same in the original Nextgen threads.
These were people who didn't understand the re-refining process Valvoline's suppliers are using and didn't understand the significance of the API license the oil carries.
They probably paid no attention to the Q&A on this site, either.
They also fail to appreciate the growing body of UOAs of Nextgen oils, to which I'll contribute one from the BMW in August.
I don't mean to imply that any Valvoline oil is a do-all, be-all product, but rather than every Valvoline oil is a quality product that will work well when used for appropriate OCIs.

 

[MuzzleFlash40]

I'm using VWB right now and so far no issues. Eventually i'll move to Maxlife in both vehicles but probably not for another year or so. They make a great product.

 

[addyguy]

Originally Posted By: Zako2
^

I am sure that conventional NextGen rebates are used temporarily so that consumers would take notice and start using it. Giving oil away almost for free doesn't seem like a good model for making profits.

It does seem bold of Valvoline to introduce a synthetic re-refined product, if this rumor is true. I suspect that their product will be good, but to get it to consumers, all the stores have to be convinced to provide more shelf space for another Valvoline product line, and then consumers have to be convinced to buy it instead of the regular Synpower.


I get a feeling the 'Nextgen' concept (ie 50% re-refined base) will slowly replace other Valvoline lines....the Nextgen conventional will become the only conventional...etc.....

 

[johnnydc]

I've been using Valvoline products for 25 years with no problems. I know other people that used them in blown dual quad big blocks with no issuse. What I see is that most all the big oil manufactures make great products. The Valvoline is not a long drain oil, although I would like them to make one. I want to do my part in saving resorces as much as the next guy, but not at the expense of my drivetrain. They have lubes that go up to 25k. I will not do that. I wouldn't recomend going past 10k with a good oil. But that is just me. I don't fall for the my oil is the best [censored]. If some folks want to pay $10 or more for a quart of oil, more power to ya. Like i said before. I've seen alot of racing engines and hotrod engines do great on over the counter oils. Just use the right viscosity and such. Just my 2cents.

 

[WMSmotorhead]

Booooo Valvoline... They've only been making current spec oils for more years than I've been alive... How dare they make oils to manufactures specifications.... Those rotten scoundrels!!!

Oh... wait.. never mind.

If you want to "Hate" an oil maker, Everclear and Bullseye deserve it much worse.

The NextGen checks out to be good stuff... if the price is right, I'd buy it.

 

[MBS500]

Hmm I hang out on other forums too,and travel, and can say that Valvoline is Highly respected in Central and Eastern Europe...

 

[Loobed]

I don't understand why they have to tell anyone that it is recycled oil: It is not. It is refined oil. It shouldn't even be considered re-refined oil.

It is like glass. glass is 100% recyclable. Bottle makers don't have to tell you that a bottle is made from recycled glass.

 

[Garak]

Originally Posted By: Loobed
It is like glass. glass is 100% recyclable. Bottle makers don't have to tell you that a bottle is made from recycled glass.


It's a calculated marketing risk, I suspect. Some will be petrified of "used oil." Others will think it's great that they're responsibly using resources.

Ashland may be one of the first to properly recycle oil. They won't be the last, I suspect.

 

[Bruce T]

Yes, the word "recycled" is marketing to environmentalists. It can scare away the traditional oil guys, but it's not necessarily lower quality.

 

[Garak]

I'd use it without hesitation. It's cheaper up here than VWB when both are on regular price. VWB is down to $11.88 for five quarts, right now, though. I haven't seen a rollback on NextGen yet.

 

[Bruce T]

The NextGen green bottle offends me eyes, not unlike the yellow Purolator PureOne oil filters, but fortunately you're not forced to keep staring at them after installation.