I need some new 18" tires im looking at some invos or maybe some harder compound all weather tires suggestions since these cant be rotated need something that doesnt wear badly on the edges
new tires for G35? Nitto invo or some 600 UT rated
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JHZR2
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that's art of the game for a car that tries to be performance oriented.
Downgrade to 17" wheels and align to a more benign setpoint if tire costs are killing you. Giving up quality can be deadly.
Downgrade to 17" wheels and align to a more benign setpoint if tire costs are killing you. Giving up quality can be deadly.
One of the best all season tire is Continental ExtremeContact DWS with tread wear rated at 540. Take a look at Tirerack winter testing.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=124
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=124
Why not stick the to original spec type tires ?
18" tires are not that expensive
18" tires are not that expensive
Originally Posted By: Dieseldoctor
I need some new 18" tires im looking at some invos or maybe some harder compound all weather tires suggestions since these cant be rotated need something that doesnt wear badly on the edges
Alignment affects edge wear a LOT more than tire choice, honestly.
I need some new 18" tires im looking at some invos or maybe some harder compound all weather tires suggestions since these cant be rotated need something that doesnt wear badly on the edges
Alignment affects edge wear a LOT more than tire choice, honestly.
Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus or Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Position. Those are two UHP all-season tires that actually have decent handling.
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
that's art of the game for a car that tries to be performance oriented.
Downgrade to 17" wheels and align to a more benign setpoint if tire costs are killing you. Giving up quality can be deadly.
18" tires aren't even that expensive anymore. The price difference between 17" and 18" tires is very small.
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
that's art of the game for a car that tries to be performance oriented.
Downgrade to 17" wheels and align to a more benign setpoint if tire costs are killing you. Giving up quality can be deadly.
18" tires aren't even that expensive anymore. The price difference between 17" and 18" tires is very small.
JHZR2
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And 17" tires are expensive too.
At least this isnt an economy car... so notionally the owner can afford expensive 18" tires.
At least this isnt an economy car... so notionally the owner can afford expensive 18" tires.
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
And 17" tires are expensive too.
At least this isnt an economy car... so notionally the owner can afford expensive 18" tires.
I just cannot agree with you on this one.
My dad purchased four Michelin Hydroedge tires in 185-65-15 for $490 installed back in 2004.
A few weeks ago, I helped my friend purchase four Bridgestone Potenza RE760 Sports in 225-40-18 for a grand total of $597 installed, and that even includes a $9/tire TPMS rebuild kit that the Saturn did not need.
I understand that Hydroedges and Potenza RE760 Sports are not direct competitors, but I think we can agree that they are both premium tires, not $59 Coopers or Raptors. If you subtract the additional cost of the TPMS rebuild kits on the 18" tires, the 18" tires cost $71 more for a set of 4-- or an extra 17.75/tire. Therefore, to say that 17" or 18" tires are "ridiculously expensive" is downright false. Especially if you consider that there are some quality 18" tires that cost nearly the same as my 15" Hydroedges.
And 17" tires are expensive too.
At least this isnt an economy car... so notionally the owner can afford expensive 18" tires.
I just cannot agree with you on this one.
My dad purchased four Michelin Hydroedge tires in 185-65-15 for $490 installed back in 2004.
A few weeks ago, I helped my friend purchase four Bridgestone Potenza RE760 Sports in 225-40-18 for a grand total of $597 installed, and that even includes a $9/tire TPMS rebuild kit that the Saturn did not need.
I understand that Hydroedges and Potenza RE760 Sports are not direct competitors, but I think we can agree that they are both premium tires, not $59 Coopers or Raptors. If you subtract the additional cost of the TPMS rebuild kits on the 18" tires, the 18" tires cost $71 more for a set of 4-- or an extra 17.75/tire. Therefore, to say that 17" or 18" tires are "ridiculously expensive" is downright false. Especially if you consider that there are some quality 18" tires that cost nearly the same as my 15" Hydroedges.
JHZR2
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Let's just look down the pricing list at the trend for some highly-rated tires. Ill start with one that I own:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes.jsp?make=Bridgestone&model=Potenza+RE960AS+Pole+Position
summer tires:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes.jsp?make=Michelin&model=Pilot+Exalto+PE2
good all-seasons:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes.jsp?make=Goodyear&model=Assurance+TripleTred
how about winter tires:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes.jsp?make=Bridgestone&model=Blizzak+LM-25
Enough said.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes.jsp?make=Bridgestone&model=Potenza+RE960AS+Pole+Position
summer tires:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes.jsp?make=Michelin&model=Pilot+Exalto+PE2
good all-seasons:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes.jsp?make=Goodyear&model=Assurance+TripleTred
how about winter tires:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes.jsp?make=Bridgestone&model=Blizzak+LM-25
Enough said.
Originally Posted By: Dieseldoctor
I need some new 18" tires im looking at some invos or maybe some harder compound all weather tires suggestions since these cant be rotated need something that doesnt wear badly on the edges
If you get tires that with an assymetric tread pattern, you can sort of rotate them side to side. It will make a slight difference in wear.
as otheres mentioned, continental dws seem to be one of the best performing & values for the car.
use the www.tirerack.com vehicle guide.
Also, check the alignment to see if you have too much negative camber.
I need some new 18" tires im looking at some invos or maybe some harder compound all weather tires suggestions since these cant be rotated need something that doesnt wear badly on the edges
If you get tires that with an assymetric tread pattern, you can sort of rotate them side to side. It will make a slight difference in wear.
as otheres mentioned, continental dws seem to be one of the best performing & values for the car.
use the www.tirerack.com vehicle guide.
Also, check the alignment to see if you have too much negative camber.
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Let's just look down the pricing list at the trend for some highly-rated tires. Ill start with one that I own:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes.jsp?make=Bridgestone&model=Potenza+RE960AS+Pole+Position
summer tires:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes.jsp?make=Michelin&model=Pilot+Exalto+PE2
good all-seasons:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes.jsp?make=Goodyear&model=Assurance+TripleTred
how about winter tires:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes.jsp?make=Bridgestone&model=Blizzak+LM-25
Enough said.
The tires I used in my example are highly-rated as well.
Point is, 18" tires do not cost twice as much as 15" tires, at least for the most part. The price difference is small relative to other things in life, such as dumping $4/day at Starbucks or at the donut shop. There are some advantages to larger tires on certain applications, so I think for you to automatically dismiss larger tires as being worthless and wasteful is a bit unfounded.
Let's just look down the pricing list at the trend for some highly-rated tires. Ill start with one that I own:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes.jsp?make=Bridgestone&model=Potenza+RE960AS+Pole+Position
summer tires:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes.jsp?make=Michelin&model=Pilot+Exalto+PE2
good all-seasons:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes.jsp?make=Goodyear&model=Assurance+TripleTred
how about winter tires:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes.jsp?make=Bridgestone&model=Blizzak+LM-25
Enough said.
The tires I used in my example are highly-rated as well.
Point is, 18" tires do not cost twice as much as 15" tires, at least for the most part. The price difference is small relative to other things in life, such as dumping $4/day at Starbucks or at the donut shop. There are some advantages to larger tires on certain applications, so I think for you to automatically dismiss larger tires as being worthless and wasteful is a bit unfounded.
Originally Posted By: The Critic
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Let's just look down the pricing list at the trend for some highly-rated tires. Ill start with one that I own:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes.jsp?make=Bridgestone&model=Potenza+RE960AS+Pole+Position
summer tires:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes.jsp?make=Michelin&model=Pilot+Exalto+PE2
good all-seasons:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes.jsp?make=Goodyear&model=Assurance+TripleTred
how about winter tires:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes.jsp?make=Bridgestone&model=Blizzak+LM-25
Enough said.
The tires I used in my example are highly-rated as well.
Point is, 18" tires do not cost twice as much as 15" tires, at least for the most part. The price difference is small relative to other things in life, such as dumping $4/day at Starbucks or at the donut shop. There are some advantages to larger tires on certain applications, so I think for you to automatically dismiss larger tires as being worthless and wasteful is a bit unfounded.
actually they do cost almost twice as much or more....... Being one who prices out tires and sells them a lot.... I would know stuff like this
plus those links that guy posted are spot on..... 15" tires for 70 bucks....... 18" tires are in the 180 to 250 range.... in fact, some of them are THREE times as expensive...........
if you don't think there is a big difference between 15 and 17 tires, come buy me a set of 17" tires(I'll even give the price to you as my cost) and I'll give you a set of 15's for your car........
P.S. the set of 17's I want are almost 190 a tire
I can get same make model tire for about 100 in the 15" range......
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Let's just look down the pricing list at the trend for some highly-rated tires. Ill start with one that I own:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes.jsp?make=Bridgestone&model=Potenza+RE960AS+Pole+Position
summer tires:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes.jsp?make=Michelin&model=Pilot+Exalto+PE2
good all-seasons:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes.jsp?make=Goodyear&model=Assurance+TripleTred
how about winter tires:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes.jsp?make=Bridgestone&model=Blizzak+LM-25
Enough said.
The tires I used in my example are highly-rated as well.
Point is, 18" tires do not cost twice as much as 15" tires, at least for the most part. The price difference is small relative to other things in life, such as dumping $4/day at Starbucks or at the donut shop. There are some advantages to larger tires on certain applications, so I think for you to automatically dismiss larger tires as being worthless and wasteful is a bit unfounded.
actually they do cost almost twice as much or more....... Being one who prices out tires and sells them a lot.... I would know stuff like this
plus those links that guy posted are spot on..... 15" tires for 70 bucks....... 18" tires are in the 180 to 250 range.... in fact, some of them are THREE times as expensive...........
if you don't think there is a big difference between 15 and 17 tires, come buy me a set of 17" tires(I'll even give the price to you as my cost) and I'll give you a set of 15's for your car........
P.S. the set of 17's I want are almost 190 a tire
I can get same make model tire for about 100 in the 15" range......
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Originally Posted By: 38sho
Originally Posted By: The Critic
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Let's just look down the pricing list at the trend for some highly-rated tires. Ill start with one that I own:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes.jsp?make=Bridgestone&model=Potenza+RE960AS+Pole+Position
summer tires:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes.jsp?make=Michelin&model=Pilot+Exalto+PE2
good all-seasons:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes.jsp?make=Goodyear&model=Assurance+TripleTred
how about winter tires:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes.jsp?make=Bridgestone&model=Blizzak+LM-25
Enough said.
The tires I used in my example are highly-rated as well.
Point is, 18" tires do not cost twice as much as 15" tires, at least for the most part. The price difference is small relative to other things in life, such as dumping $4/day at Starbucks or at the donut shop. There are some advantages to larger tires on certain applications, so I think for you to automatically dismiss larger tires as being worthless and wasteful is a bit unfounded.
actually they do cost almost twice as much or more....... Being one who prices out tires and sells them a lot.... I would know stuff like this
plus those links that guy posted are spot on..... 15" tires for 70 bucks....... 18" tires are in the 180 to 250 range.... in fact, some of them are THREE times as expensive...........
if you don't think there is a big difference between 15 and 17 tires, come buy me a set of 17" tires(I'll even give the price to you as my cost) and I'll give you a set of 15's for your car........
P.S. the set of 17's I want are almost 190 a tire
I can get same make model tire for about 100 in the 15" range......
Like I said, it depends what you are comparing.
If you read my original post, I was comparing my set of 15" Michelin Hydroedges to my friend's 18" Bridgestone Potenza RE760 Sports. The 18" tires were around $17/tire more.
Originally Posted By: The Critic
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Let's just look down the pricing list at the trend for some highly-rated tires. Ill start with one that I own:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes.jsp?make=Bridgestone&model=Potenza+RE960AS+Pole+Position
summer tires:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes.jsp?make=Michelin&model=Pilot+Exalto+PE2
good all-seasons:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes.jsp?make=Goodyear&model=Assurance+TripleTred
how about winter tires:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes.jsp?make=Bridgestone&model=Blizzak+LM-25
Enough said.
The tires I used in my example are highly-rated as well.
Point is, 18" tires do not cost twice as much as 15" tires, at least for the most part. The price difference is small relative to other things in life, such as dumping $4/day at Starbucks or at the donut shop. There are some advantages to larger tires on certain applications, so I think for you to automatically dismiss larger tires as being worthless and wasteful is a bit unfounded.
actually they do cost almost twice as much or more....... Being one who prices out tires and sells them a lot.... I would know stuff like this
plus those links that guy posted are spot on..... 15" tires for 70 bucks....... 18" tires are in the 180 to 250 range.... in fact, some of them are THREE times as expensive...........
if you don't think there is a big difference between 15 and 17 tires, come buy me a set of 17" tires(I'll even give the price to you as my cost) and I'll give you a set of 15's for your car........
P.S. the set of 17's I want are almost 190 a tire
I can get same make model tire for about 100 in the 15" range......
Like I said, it depends what you are comparing.
If you read my original post, I was comparing my set of 15" Michelin Hydroedges to my friend's 18" Bridgestone Potenza RE760 Sports. The 18" tires were around $17/tire more.
Why can't you rotate?
Directional and stagger tires can not be rotated.
The front tires arent the same diamater as the rear. Im just trying find some that are good for these cars since u cant rotate the tires i had a set of F1's on my Audi tt didnt get 3K miles before they developed flat spotting on insides from the camber where the contiental oems didnt. A 2G mistake.. tires arent cheap? figuring on like 250/piece plus install.. every year isnt cheap really. Considering it's all highway mileage..
Continental ExtremeContact DWS is not directional tire so that you can rotate side to side. It isn't max performance but it isn't slough either on dry roads, it is very good on wet and icy roads and it doesn't cost too much either. I think it's the best buy in Ultra High Performance All-Season class.
That's what I was looking for. Didn't see the staggered set up anywhere. Look at the Eagle GT? UHP All Season which gets OK reviews. The Eagle F1 All Season is just so so.
yah ones a 225 on front on back it's 245. also nissan's TPMS system requires u to reprogram all 4 the tpms sensors when u rotate the tires which i dont have eather and it's 100$ at dealer so no rotating the tires for me...!
Tire rotation of a Nissan with TPMS is now cost more than $100 ? It is insane. None of my cars have TPMS, I hope that when I need to buy a new car the TPMS will be an option, not mandatory as of now.
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