Everyone knows the same ole Dino vs synthetic argument. Just had a thought. Why not take an old microwave oven, pour up a cup of Dino In a glass beaker, and heat for a set amount of time say 1 minute intervals and watch for the darkening and smell of burning oil. Do the same with synthetic. That should draw a conclusion if synthetic is really different than Dino. It's not scientific, but it may show some differences, or at least prove the time honored thought that synthetic can handle the heat better than Dino.
New thought for a test Dino vs synthetic
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Originally Posted By: Zeus103363
Everyone knows the same ole Dino vs synthetic argument. Just had a thought. Why not take an old microwave oven, pour up a cup of Dino In a glass beaker, and heat for a set amount of time say 1 minute intervals and watch for the darkening and smell of burning oil. Do the same with synthetic. That should draw a conclusion if synthetic is really different than Dino. It's not scientific, but it may show some differences, or at least prove the time honored thought that synthetic can handle the heat better than Dino.
How hot can it get inside a Microwave Oven?
The teps inside the microwave would have to be over 200 Degrees.
Everyone knows the same ole Dino vs synthetic argument. Just had a thought. Why not take an old microwave oven, pour up a cup of Dino In a glass beaker, and heat for a set amount of time say 1 minute intervals and watch for the darkening and smell of burning oil. Do the same with synthetic. That should draw a conclusion if synthetic is really different than Dino. It's not scientific, but it may show some differences, or at least prove the time honored thought that synthetic can handle the heat better than Dino.
How hot can it get inside a Microwave Oven?
The teps inside the microwave would have to be over 200 Degrees.
Water can boil in 45 seconds in a normal 7000 watt microwave. Shouldn't be a problem.
Mite advise to take it outdoors as the smell of burning motor oil mite stink up the wife's kitchen!
Originally Posted By: Zeus103363
It's not scientific
Case closed...
Originally Posted By: Zeus103363
Water can boil in 45 seconds in a normal 7000 watt microwave. Shouldn't be a problem.
Is this what this board has become? SAD
PLEASE show me the 7000 (SEVEN THOUSAND) watt microwave..
Please don't use any words like factual or data.. You lost ANY credibility with members like myself.
Amazing...
It's not scientific
Case closed...
Originally Posted By: Zeus103363
Water can boil in 45 seconds in a normal 7000 watt microwave. Shouldn't be a problem.
Is this what this board has become? SAD
PLEASE show me the 7000 (SEVEN THOUSAND) watt microwave..
Please don't use any words like factual or data.. You lost ANY credibility with members like myself.
Amazing...
Maybe try it with a used garage sale micro instead of the one one you're using to heat food with..just a thought.
move the microwave into the lab and its scientific. All you need is a control, and do the same test several times to see if you end up with a pattern. I take that back, it is scientific. Be happy!
Originally Posted By: Bill in Utah
Originally Posted By: Zeus103363
It's not scientific
Case closed...
Originally Posted By: Zeus103363
Water can boil in 45 seconds in a normal 7000 watt microwave. Shouldn't be a problem.
Is this what this board has become? SAD
PLEASE show me the 7000 (SEVEN THOUSAND) watt microwave..
Please don't use any words like factual or data.. You lost ANY credibility with members like myself.
Amazing...
Sorry, I put too many zeros. 700 watt. Dang, one post with too many zeros and I have lost all creditability? Oh well, never had any to begin with. Looks like its another sleepless night for me!
Originally Posted By: Zeus103363
It's not scientific
Case closed...
Originally Posted By: Zeus103363
Water can boil in 45 seconds in a normal 7000 watt microwave. Shouldn't be a problem.
Is this what this board has become? SAD
PLEASE show me the 7000 (SEVEN THOUSAND) watt microwave..
Please don't use any words like factual or data.. You lost ANY credibility with members like myself.
Amazing...
Sorry, I put too many zeros. 700 watt. Dang, one post with too many zeros and I have lost all creditability? Oh well, never had any to begin with. Looks like its another sleepless night for me!
Lol all bad in here
1) Microwaves heat things very differently than normal heat input.
2) Mobil 1 used to have an ad about this over a stove, right?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHXioXSEMWM
2) Mobil 1 used to have an ad about this over a stove, right?
[runs off to youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHXioXSEMWM
Time out!
Think, people, microwaves work by heating WATER MOLECULES. The reason microwaves heat foods up is due to the water content in the foods, not the foods themselves.
Microwaving oils is silly and futile.
Think, people, microwaves work by heating WATER MOLECULES. The reason microwaves heat foods up is due to the water content in the foods, not the foods themselves.
Microwaving oils is silly and futile.
Originally Posted By: surfstar
1) Microwaves heat things very differently than normal heat input
+1, although I would clarrify it by changing "normal heat input" to "conduction heat transfer and friction heat generation".
1) Microwaves heat things very differently than normal heat input
+1, although I would clarrify it by changing "normal heat input" to "conduction heat transfer and friction heat generation".
Originally Posted By: gfh77665
Time out!
Think, people, microwaves work by heating WATER MOLECULES. The reason microwaves heat foods up is due to the water content in the foods, not the foods themselves.
Microwaving oils is silly and futile.
As I understand it, microwaves excite water molecules, which results in heat generation. But yes, not an effective way to test motor oils as it does not have much of anything to do with the conditions to which motor oil is subjected.;
Time out!
Think, people, microwaves work by heating WATER MOLECULES. The reason microwaves heat foods up is due to the water content in the foods, not the foods themselves.
Microwaving oils is silly and futile.
As I understand it, microwaves excite water molecules, which results in heat generation. But yes, not an effective way to test motor oils as it does not have much of anything to do with the conditions to which motor oil is subjected.;
Originally Posted By: NMBurb02
Originally Posted By: gfh77665
Time out!
Think, people, microwaves work by heating WATER MOLECULES. The reason microwaves heat foods up is due to the water content in the foods, not the foods themselves.
Microwaving oils is silly and futile.
As I understand it, microwaves excite water molecules, which results in heat generation. But yes, not an effective way to test motor oils as it does not have much of anything to do with the conditions to which motor oil is subjected.;
Excite = heating. Very few water molecules in motor oil.
Originally Posted By: gfh77665
Time out!
Think, people, microwaves work by heating WATER MOLECULES. The reason microwaves heat foods up is due to the water content in the foods, not the foods themselves.
Microwaving oils is silly and futile.
As I understand it, microwaves excite water molecules, which results in heat generation. But yes, not an effective way to test motor oils as it does not have much of anything to do with the conditions to which motor oil is subjected.;
Excite = heating. Very few water molecules in motor oil.
Regardless, microwaves cause the water molecules in an object to release energy in the form of heat. The maximum temperature that an item in a microwave will reach is 210 degrees F (boiling point).
Also, be careful that none of the metallic additives will result in arcing, no metal in the microwave
Also, be careful that none of the metallic additives will result in arcing, no metal in the microwave
Originally Posted By: Bill in Utah
Originally Posted By: Zeus103363
It's not scientific
Case closed...
Originally Posted By: Zeus103363
Water can boil in 45 seconds in a normal 7000 watt microwave. Shouldn't be a problem.
Is this what this board has become? SAD
PLEASE show me the 7000 (SEVEN THOUSAND) watt microwave..
Please don't use any words like factual or data.. You lost ANY credibility with members like myself.
Amazing...
Maybe he was seeking your "approval" there is no need to be rude just because you think his ideas are silly.
What's SAD is belittling people on their ideas. Everyone is here to learn regardless of their current motor oil IQ.
Originally Posted By: Zeus103363
It's not scientific
Case closed...
Originally Posted By: Zeus103363
Water can boil in 45 seconds in a normal 7000 watt microwave. Shouldn't be a problem.
Is this what this board has become? SAD
PLEASE show me the 7000 (SEVEN THOUSAND) watt microwave..
Please don't use any words like factual or data.. You lost ANY credibility with members like myself.
Amazing...
Maybe he was seeking your "approval" there is no need to be rude just because you think his ideas are silly.
What's SAD is belittling people on their ideas. Everyone is here to learn regardless of their current motor oil IQ.
I think a blender at high speed then slow speed would provide us with what we are lookng for!!
Originally Posted By: salv
Regardless, microwaves cause the water molecules in an object to release energy in the form of heat. The maximum temperature that an item in a microwave will reach is 210 degrees F (boiling point).
A technical nitpick: heat is -- simply -- molecules in motion, no more and no less. When the molecules are vibrating rapidly, we may say the material is hot; when slowly, cold. When the molecules are not vibrating at all, we call it absolute zero (-273° C. or 0° K.). So the water does not "release" heat; the microwave radiation imparts motion -- heat -- to the water molecules directly. Under standard atmospheric pressure, water boils (transitions from a liquid to a gaseous state) at 212° F., effectively setting a limit on temperatures that may be achieved in a kitchen microwave.
Regardless, microwaves cause the water molecules in an object to release energy in the form of heat. The maximum temperature that an item in a microwave will reach is 210 degrees F (boiling point).
A technical nitpick: heat is -- simply -- molecules in motion, no more and no less. When the molecules are vibrating rapidly, we may say the material is hot; when slowly, cold. When the molecules are not vibrating at all, we call it absolute zero (-273° C. or 0° K.). So the water does not "release" heat; the microwave radiation imparts motion -- heat -- to the water molecules directly. Under standard atmospheric pressure, water boils (transitions from a liquid to a gaseous state) at 212° F., effectively setting a limit on temperatures that may be achieved in a kitchen microwave.
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