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the ALH TDI's (99-03 vintage) are probably the best TDI's produced by VW. Expect to pay a premium if you are going that route, otherwise in my mind the later models are VERY BUGGY and not worth the hassle.
 
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Originally Posted By: cptbarkey
. . . otherwise in my mind the later models are VERY BUGGY and not worth the hassle.


That has not been our experience.

Up around 55k miles on our '09, and NO meaningful problems to date (other than a bad dealer that can't do an oil change correctly).

Ours will burn rubber if you jump on it. And any significant trip yields over 40 mpg with it.

Before this one, we had an '06 with the 2.5. Maintenance has been roughly the same - very low.
 
Originally Posted By: Astro14
Originally Posted By: supton
15% improvement over what? What models are you comparing it to?


Over the gasoline version...my use of the word, "what, 15%" shows an estimation...a point of discussion, not a precise analysis.


Ah, I got the estimation point, but not what of. In these discussions one often hears a comparasion to some base Corolla and a TDi, or base Kia and a TDi, not a TDI vs VW gasser.

I do think the typical VW diesel buyer is not the typical auto buyer. The fact that they are willing to buy some vehicle that takes an icky fuel and has puppy killing emissions means they are quite apt to run long enough to find those savings, since they are foolish enough to drive a car without a warrenty.
 
Originally Posted By: Volvohead
Originally Posted By: cptbarkey
. . . otherwise in my mind the later models are VERY BUGGY and not worth the hassle.


That has not been our experience.

Up around 55k miles on our '09, and NO meaningful problems to date (other than a bad dealer that can't do an oil change correctly).

Ours will burn rubber if you jump on it. And any significant trip yields over 40 mpg with it.

Before this one, we had an '06 with the 2.5. Maintenance has been roughly the same - very low.


Which later models? Mine is the successor to the ALH, and while not the more buggy BRM it’s still the dreaded PD motor otherwise known as a BEW. Visual inspection of the camshaft at 200kmiles indicated no undue wear. EGR system is and was a complete mess on these cars, yet a good number still soldier on with it (not mine anymore, it came off with the turbo upgrade, after the OEM turbo grenaded at 259kmiles—but usually it’s just one low-cost lower EGR pipe that fails). DMF clutch was a nuisance, and the electric lift pump died last week—but these bits are not internal and bound to go at these miles.

No DPF on my model, and while a camshaft replacement would not be cheap it’s still not prohibitively expensive. The BEW motor is more smooth and more quiet than the ALH, and in stock form more powerful.
 
I pulled the trigger yesterday, traded in my Nissan and got the last 2012 TDI 6 speed on the lot. 21k out the door. Initial impressions are a very solid car and the drive from the dealer (40 miles) netted an indicated 48.8 mpg at about 50 mph in 6th on surface streets home.

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I got the cruise control and heated seats/mirros which I did not have in the Nissan. Also armrests, the Nissan didn't have one and it annoyed the heck out of me. This is much more liveable an d I hope it's a high miler like a lot of them.

I'll look into what folks are doing for lubrication for the fuel causing fuel pump issues with ULSD.
 
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Wow, nice ride! Congrats.

But I thought you said "next year."
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Isn't that how it goes sometimes? Ha!

I went in looking at 2013s that were 26k + and up. I didn't want a sunroof and the premium sound (stock 8 speaker is more than enough). There was this 2012 lefta and a beige automatic one. The beige got sold while I was looking at 2013s. So I drove this car and it was a blast and had everything I wanted and nothing I didn't, so I went for it. I'm afraid this beige may get dirty but I've heard the leatherette holds up pretty well though. So I went for it. I didn't just start contemplating the cars a few days ago though but it was the first time I had driven one.
 
Originally Posted By: jayg
I pulled the trigger yesterday, traded in my Nissan and got the last 2012 TDI 6 speed on the lot. 21k out the door. ...


Nice ride! looks like ours except for DSG.

Congratulations!
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Congratulations and all the best with it!

Neat MFD. Looks like they ditched some gauges.

Run the factory fill out to the full OCI.
 
Originally Posted By: Volvohead
Congratulations and all the best with it!

Neat MFD. Looks like they ditched some gauges.

Run the factory fill out to the full OCI.


I will at 10k and then 10k after that is standard. Once the factory changes run out I will already have planned what I want to run in it from the great advice on here.
 
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