Originally Posted By: d00df00d
Originally Posted By: Gixxer46
There’s a lot more talent needed to make a bike go fast vs a car.
Not sure about that. F1 drivers will pull 3-4 G in a corner and 5-6 G under braking. You're pressed into the straps so hard that a human being literally doesn't have the upper body strength to breathe, you're going so fast that events are constantly happening faster than the absolute physical minimum processing times of a human nervous system, and you have to nail your braking points and racing lines every time... Not a lot of human pursuits are that difficult.
F1 is pretty difficult for sure, but 4 wheels always some extra leeway when the driver miscalculates a bit, compared to bikes. I can't think of any driver that has made the switch to 2 wheels at the pro level and done well? Schumacher tried but injured himself, but also was a bit old to make the switch.
IMO you've got so much more to do on a bike than in a car(independent brakes, body positioning), and going over the limit for a moment can have much bigger consequences, that the lower speeds don't make it easier at all.
Probably with bit of sim work, a couple weeks of neck exercises and a slightly easier car setup, most motogp guys would be within a few percent of the average f1 driver, in 2 days of testing. Going the other way though, unless the F1 guy has 100's of hours on a sport bike already, and some amateur racing, getting within a few percent probably is going to take a long time.
Originally Posted By: Gixxer46
There’s a lot more talent needed to make a bike go fast vs a car.
Not sure about that. F1 drivers will pull 3-4 G in a corner and 5-6 G under braking. You're pressed into the straps so hard that a human being literally doesn't have the upper body strength to breathe, you're going so fast that events are constantly happening faster than the absolute physical minimum processing times of a human nervous system, and you have to nail your braking points and racing lines every time... Not a lot of human pursuits are that difficult.
F1 is pretty difficult for sure, but 4 wheels always some extra leeway when the driver miscalculates a bit, compared to bikes. I can't think of any driver that has made the switch to 2 wheels at the pro level and done well? Schumacher tried but injured himself, but also was a bit old to make the switch.
IMO you've got so much more to do on a bike than in a car(independent brakes, body positioning), and going over the limit for a moment can have much bigger consequences, that the lower speeds don't make it easier at all.
Probably with bit of sim work, a couple weeks of neck exercises and a slightly easier car setup, most motogp guys would be within a few percent of the average f1 driver, in 2 days of testing. Going the other way though, unless the F1 guy has 100's of hours on a sport bike already, and some amateur racing, getting within a few percent probably is going to take a long time.