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Originally Posted By: fdcg27
This is a perfect car for a driver who needs to do a lot of miles and has no pretensions.
There are many almost as cheap but more substantial cars that can fit that role.
I rather have a Yaris, Fit, Fiesta, Accent, or Rio.
To me the Mirage makes too many compromises.
This is a perfect car for a driver who needs to do a lot of miles and has no pretensions.
There are many almost as cheap but more substantial cars that can fit that role.
I rather have a Yaris, Fit, Fiesta, Accent, or Rio.
To me the Mirage makes too many compromises.
Originally Posted By: camrydriver111
Originally Posted By: fdcg27
This is a perfect car for a driver who needs to do a lot of miles and has no pretensions.
There are many almost as cheap but more substantial cars that can fit that role.
I rather have a Yaris, Fit, Fiesta, Accent, or Rio.
To me the Mirage makes too many compromises.
Not sure what you mean by almost as cheap or more substantial.
The cars you've mentioned would run quite a bit more than a Mirage and have their own compromises as well.
Out of the group you've noted, the Fit stands out as the most satisfactory car, but it would run double what a new Mirage would and wouldn't offer close to the same fuel economy.
If a driver wants dirt cheap along with good fuel economy, the Mirage does stand out.
Originally Posted By: fdcg27
This is a perfect car for a driver who needs to do a lot of miles and has no pretensions.
There are many almost as cheap but more substantial cars that can fit that role.
I rather have a Yaris, Fit, Fiesta, Accent, or Rio.
To me the Mirage makes too many compromises.
Not sure what you mean by almost as cheap or more substantial.
The cars you've mentioned would run quite a bit more than a Mirage and have their own compromises as well.
Out of the group you've noted, the Fit stands out as the most satisfactory car, but it would run double what a new Mirage would and wouldn't offer close to the same fuel economy.
If a driver wants dirt cheap along with good fuel economy, the Mirage does stand out.
I don't think the nay sayers have seen one, let alone had a good look or driven one. There is nothing cheap or in substancial about them. Just before I left the dealership a few months ago I got to pick up and deliver a couple, so did some miles in them. I got the average down below 5 litres per 100km, 4.8 I think, that's well below the advertised economy. I don't know what that is in US mpg...because I don't care.
Originally Posted By: Silk
I don't think the nay sayers have seen one, let alone had a good look or driven one. There is nothing cheap or in substancial about them. Just before I left the dealership a few months ago I got to pick up and deliver a couple, so did some miles in them. I got the average down below 5 litres per 100km, 4.8 I think, that's well below the advertised economy. I don't know what that is in US mpg...because I don't care.
47 to 49mpg (56 to 59mpg imperial).
Been a while since I drove one. IIRC NVH was a big deal for me, and it was slow. My Camry is of course more quiet, rides better, etc. Maybe in another year I'll look for one on the used market. Sometimes I miss driving stick--other times I'm quite content with the auto.
I don't think the nay sayers have seen one, let alone had a good look or driven one. There is nothing cheap or in substancial about them. Just before I left the dealership a few months ago I got to pick up and deliver a couple, so did some miles in them. I got the average down below 5 litres per 100km, 4.8 I think, that's well below the advertised economy. I don't know what that is in US mpg...because I don't care.
47 to 49mpg (56 to 59mpg imperial).
Been a while since I drove one. IIRC NVH was a big deal for me, and it was slow. My Camry is of course more quiet, rides better, etc. Maybe in another year I'll look for one on the used market. Sometimes I miss driving stick--other times I'm quite content with the auto.
Originally Posted By: Silk
I don't think the nay sayers have seen one, let alone had a good look or driven one. There is nothing cheap or in substancial about them. Just before I left the dealership a few months ago I got to pick up and deliver a couple, so did some miles in them. I got the average down below 5 litres per 100km, 4.8 I think, that's well below the advertised economy. I don't know what that is in US mpg...because I don't care.
I've never driven one, but based on this review, I'd say it's very cheap and insubstantial:
https://youtu.be/5aCsNs3eYTE
I don't think the nay sayers have seen one, let alone had a good look or driven one. There is nothing cheap or in substancial about them. Just before I left the dealership a few months ago I got to pick up and deliver a couple, so did some miles in them. I got the average down below 5 litres per 100km, 4.8 I think, that's well below the advertised economy. I don't know what that is in US mpg...because I don't care.
I've never driven one, but based on this review, I'd say it's very cheap and insubstantial:
https://youtu.be/5aCsNs3eYTE
Originally Posted By: exranger06
Originally Posted By: Silk
I don't think the nay sayers have seen one, let alone had a good look or driven one. There is nothing cheap or in substancial about them. Just before I left the dealership a few months ago I got to pick up and deliver a couple, so did some miles in them. I got the average down below 5 litres per 100km, 4.8 I think, that's well below the advertised economy. I don't know what that is in US mpg...because I don't care.
I've never driven one, but based on this review, I'd say it's very cheap and insubstantial:
https://youtu.be/5aCsNs3eYTE
"Welcome to 1996", heh. I watched that vid not long ago, and was reminded: my daily driver is from... well it's a '99 but still. A 90's car. Does just fine with 90's "feeling".
Originally Posted By: Silk
I don't think the nay sayers have seen one, let alone had a good look or driven one. There is nothing cheap or in substancial about them. Just before I left the dealership a few months ago I got to pick up and deliver a couple, so did some miles in them. I got the average down below 5 litres per 100km, 4.8 I think, that's well below the advertised economy. I don't know what that is in US mpg...because I don't care.
I've never driven one, but based on this review, I'd say it's very cheap and insubstantial:
https://youtu.be/5aCsNs3eYTE
"Welcome to 1996", heh. I watched that vid not long ago, and was reminded: my daily driver is from... well it's a '99 but still. A 90's car. Does just fine with 90's "feeling".
What's so bad about nineties designs?
The good ones were and remain very good.
I put many miles on both Gen 5 and Gen 6 Accords, both sticks, and was very fond of each.
We have a Gen 5 in the family fleet ATM and it has been utterly trouble free.
I recall driving that machine a good distance (around fifty miles) from point of purchase home in late March '17 at 80-85 mph and being reminded of just how pleasant these cars were to drive.
My old BMW is also a child of the nineties and remains a solid and entertaining car, while our '94 E350 remains a useful and durable machine.
If the Mirage is a throwback to the nineties, then that may actually be a good thing.
The good ones were and remain very good.
I put many miles on both Gen 5 and Gen 6 Accords, both sticks, and was very fond of each.
We have a Gen 5 in the family fleet ATM and it has been utterly trouble free.
I recall driving that machine a good distance (around fifty miles) from point of purchase home in late March '17 at 80-85 mph and being reminded of just how pleasant these cars were to drive.
My old BMW is also a child of the nineties and remains a solid and entertaining car, while our '94 E350 remains a useful and durable machine.
If the Mirage is a throwback to the nineties, then that may actually be a good thing.
Originally Posted By: fdcg27
What's so bad about nineties designs?
The good ones were and remain very good.
I put many miles on both Gen 5 and Gen 6 Accords, both sticks, and was very fond of each.
We have a Gen 5 in the family fleet ATM and it has been utterly trouble free.
I recall driving that machine a good distance (around fifty miles) from point of purchase home in late March '17 at 80-85 mph and being reminded of just how pleasant these cars were to drive.
My old BMW is also a child of the nineties and remains a solid and entertaining car, while our '94 E350 remains a useful and durable machine.
If the Mirage is a throwback to the nineties, then that may actually be a good thing.
Indeed. I love being able to see around pillars, low beltline and few things beeping at me.
But that kinda annoyed me about the Mirage, with its automatic climate control and whatnot. The Versa "feels" more like a stripper car ought to, with no amenities.
Couple more years and we ought to have plenty of data as to how well they hold up here. Anecdotal evidence says they are "ok" elsewhere but how do they hold up stateside? should know soon.
What's so bad about nineties designs?
The good ones were and remain very good.
I put many miles on both Gen 5 and Gen 6 Accords, both sticks, and was very fond of each.
We have a Gen 5 in the family fleet ATM and it has been utterly trouble free.
I recall driving that machine a good distance (around fifty miles) from point of purchase home in late March '17 at 80-85 mph and being reminded of just how pleasant these cars were to drive.
My old BMW is also a child of the nineties and remains a solid and entertaining car, while our '94 E350 remains a useful and durable machine.
If the Mirage is a throwback to the nineties, then that may actually be a good thing.
Indeed. I love being able to see around pillars, low beltline and few things beeping at me.
But that kinda annoyed me about the Mirage, with its automatic climate control and whatnot. The Versa "feels" more like a stripper car ought to, with no amenities.
Couple more years and we ought to have plenty of data as to how well they hold up here. Anecdotal evidence says they are "ok" elsewhere but how do they hold up stateside? should know soon.
The Mirage comes in dead last in it's category in Consumer Reports. But it does rank very high for reliability. I think the noise and ride is where they knocked it. Maybe fit and finish. I like the updated interior and screen that it has. Doesn't seem like such a stripper. Super tiny wheels on the base model. Had one behind me, the sedan on Monday. I was driving the Camry and this thing was right on my tail. It had a dealer plate and I think the salesman or other dealer employee was romping on it pretty good. My guess is that it was an automatic since it wasn't jerking while shifting and flooring it. Plus I didn't hear the engine roaring either. Very suprised at it's pep.
Originally Posted By: fdcg27
Not sure what you mean by almost as cheap or more substantial.
In Canada for models with AC and manual transmission a lot of subcompacts cost about 15% more than a Mirage and you get a lot more car.
Not sure what you mean by almost as cheap or more substantial.
In Canada for models with AC and manual transmission a lot of subcompacts cost about 15% more than a Mirage and you get a lot more car.
Originally Posted By: camrydriver111
Originally Posted By: fdcg27
Not sure what you mean by almost as cheap or more substantial.
In Canada for models with AC and manual transmission a lot of subcompacts cost about 15% more than a Mirage and you get a lot more car.
Okay, that makes sense.
Here, anything wearing a Mitsubishi badge sells at a deep discount and you can't touch anything new that's better than a Mirage for a mere 15% premium.
I'm a little surprised that Mitsu is even bothering to play in this market these days.
Originally Posted By: fdcg27
Not sure what you mean by almost as cheap or more substantial.
In Canada for models with AC and manual transmission a lot of subcompacts cost about 15% more than a Mirage and you get a lot more car.
Okay, that makes sense.
Here, anything wearing a Mitsubishi badge sells at a deep discount and you can't touch anything new that's better than a Mirage for a mere 15% premium.
I'm a little surprised that Mitsu is even bothering to play in this market these days.
Originally Posted By: fdcg27
Originally Posted By: camrydriver111
Originally Posted By: fdcg27
Not sure what you mean by almost as cheap or more substantial.
In Canada for models with AC and manual transmission a lot of subcompacts cost about 15% more than a Mirage and you get a lot more car.
Okay, that makes sense.
Here, anything wearing a Mitsubishi badge sells at a deep discount and you can't touch anything new that's better than a Mirage for a mere 15% premium.
I'm a little surprised that Mitsu is even bothering to play in this market these days.
It could be the car that saves Mitsubishi like the K-car did for Chrysler.
Originally Posted By: camrydriver111
Originally Posted By: fdcg27
Not sure what you mean by almost as cheap or more substantial.
In Canada for models with AC and manual transmission a lot of subcompacts cost about 15% more than a Mirage and you get a lot more car.
Okay, that makes sense.
Here, anything wearing a Mitsubishi badge sells at a deep discount and you can't touch anything new that's better than a Mirage for a mere 15% premium.
I'm a little surprised that Mitsu is even bothering to play in this market these days.
It could be the car that saves Mitsubishi like the K-car did for Chrysler.
Honestly considering the purchase of one. Always have to have the next car planned, never know when you might have to replace the current one. It's currently down to a Mirage or a Crosstrek, but it varies with time. Is your FIL on mirage forum.com ?
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