New Kendall marketing video with 10K OCIs

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Agreed.
How can empirical data ever be considered late?
It's nice that Kendall went to the expense of actually testing their oil against a competitor's in real vehicles driven on the road.
It's also nice that an oil blender appears to be actively promoting long drains by demonstrating that current oils are up to much longer drain intervals than many people believe.
 
This is a great video. One of the best I've seen actually. They showed you more engine parts than other similar studies.

Notice how the used oil analysis to track wear.
 
Originally Posted By: buster
This is a great video. One of the best I've seen actually. They showed you more engine parts than other similar studies.

Notice how the used oil analysis to track wear.


It is great, but to people who know, it showed that both lubes in the test worked fine.

To those who don't know, it'll glorify their product. The numbers they're tossing around sound stupendous by using percentages BETWEEN the two, but since they only showed ONE engine from either lube out of the four that were ran, how do we know that Kendell really did any better?

The differences likely wouldn't be so glaring if they set and published a predetermined condemnation point for wear metals and measured percentages against that.

If you look at the rest of the graph, they are considerably closer. If you eliminate that one point in the iron wear graph (the point were they are the farthest apart) and average the rest, I bet you'll find that they're within about 10% of each other, and even less if checked against a preset condemnation point.
 
Began using the Kendall 0w20 GT-1 @ last oil change. The promotion of 10K, gives me more confidence in this oil. Because of warranty I planned on 6K runs but may up that to 7.5K. Will get an UOA at 6 as originally planned though.
 
Originally Posted By: 2010_FX4
Kendall was on my short list when I first bought my FX4, but it was only available at Pep Boys in my area and at a substantial increase in cost over other brands. Perhaps a bit nostalgic, but Kendall has always been in my family throughout the years. The video has some interesting points, but it would have been nice to know what other brand was in the comparison. I see 10K OCIs as the new 3K OCI; in most cases the longer you run the oil, the less wear that occurs.

Yes, In the way it would be nice to see what other brands they tested, BUT, It's also nice they don't bash other brands like the other companies do. I beleive if you are marketing a product, you can do so without bashing your compatition.
 
Originally Posted By: ChevyBadger
Better marketing then two Dodge Challengers next to each other and one blows up.


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Originally Posted By: buster
Good oil. Good video. Nice results. 7 years late. 40 years late arguably.

2006 Vegas Study M1.

2013 Vegas Study Amsoil.

M1 15k mile drains. Tear down video.

Amsoil. 15k mile drains. White paper.

I lean towards M1 over Amsoil because of their reliance on real world, engine testing. Not 4- ball wear scars.



AGREED
 
Originally Posted By: gregoron
I'd try Kendall if it were more available and cheaper here, but I can't find jugs that compete with jug prices in WMT. Besides, there's Mobil Super 5000 with titanium as well in conventional flavor. You could go 10k with that too right?


It's harder o find Kendall at the autoparts stores here to. I know a guy who uses Kendall exlusively and he gets it from the distributor.
P.S. I wish Bitog had spell check
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Originally Posted By: The_Eric
Originally Posted By: buster
This is a great video. One of the best I've seen actually. They showed you more engine parts than other similar studies.

Notice how the used oil analysis to track wear.


It is great, but to people who know, it showed that both lubes in the test worked fine.

To those who don't know, it'll glorify their product. The numbers they're tossing around sound stupendous by using percentages BETWEEN the two, but since they only showed ONE engine from either lube out of the four that were ran, how do we know that Kendell really did any better?

The differences likely wouldn't be so glaring if they set and published a predetermined condemnation point for wear metals and measured percentages against that.

If you look at the rest of the graph, they are considerably closer. If you eliminate that one point in the iron wear graph (the point were they are the farthest apart) and average the rest, I bet you'll find that they're within about 10% of each other, and even less if checked against a preset condemnation point.

Don't most oil companies do this? Not to mention names 'cause some folks get their undies twisted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Originally Posted By: johnnydc
Originally Posted By: The_Eric
Originally Posted By: buster
This is a great video. One of the best I've seen actually. They showed you more engine parts than other similar studies.

Notice how the used oil analysis to track wear.


It is great, but to people who know, it showed that both lubes in the test worked fine.

To those who don't know, it'll glorify their product. The numbers they're tossing around sound stupendous by using percentages BETWEEN the two, but since they only showed ONE engine from either lube out of the four that were ran, how do we know that Kendell really did any better?

The differences likely wouldn't be so glaring if they set and published a predetermined condemnation point for wear metals and measured percentages against that.

If you look at the rest of the graph, they are considerably closer. If you eliminate that one point in the iron wear graph (the point were they are the farthest apart) and average the rest, I bet you'll find that they're within about 10% of each other, and even less if checked against a preset condemnation point.

Don't most oil companies do this? Not to mention names 'cause some folks get their undies twisted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


No doubt they do.

I was just pointing out that it really didn't do that much better than the "competitor" and that they didn't really use that much in the way of "facts". In other words, fluff.

It just further solidifies my view that it's hard to go wrong with an oil, any oil that is approved by the OE manufacturer of the vehicle you own or are working on.

I'd be willing to wager that any approved lube would have done the same or similar in this "test".
 
Is a little tempting.
Since I just got (yesterday) 5qts of PP, and the PP is getting hard to find around here, and been thinking after the OC run using the PP to go to something else, maybe I'll find some GT-1 w/titanium and go 50/50 mix giving PU w/GT-1 for next 2 OCs.
 
While I agree that the retail price of Kendall is too high to really impact its retail market share, you can get Kendall very cheap.

My local mechanic (not a quickie lube) provides Kendall GT1 synblend oil changes and a motorcraft filter for $20. It would be dang near impossible for me to buy just the parts myself for that cheap.

There is also another tire shop nearby that does Kendall with Carquest blue filters for $20-25 depending on their current promotion. I think more people have access to it cheaply than they realize.
 
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Also, all Firestone Service Centers have all the Kendall varieties. I would use them if I needed an OC and it was -20 degrees F outside.
 
I forgot to add, awesome video by Kendall. I love the detail and lack of competition product bashing.
 
Originally Posted By: badtlc
I forgot to add, awesome video by Kendall. I love the detail and lack of competition product bashing.


Every time I try something different, I end up back with Mobil Super, but not having run Kendall before, and seeing them just put up facts, not flare, makes me want to pay AZ 4.49/qt to try it.
I ran MC 5w20 in my old P71, and it ran great. So, I know CP puts out good stuff.
 
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Originally Posted By: johnnydc
Originally Posted By: buster
Good oil. Good video. Nice results. 7 years late. 40 years late arguably.

2006 Vegas Study M1.

2013 Vegas Study Amsoil.

M1 15k mile drains. Tear down video.

Amsoil. 15k mile drains. White paper.

I lean towards M1 over Amsoil because of their reliance on real world, engine testing. Not 4- ball wear scars.



AGREED


Me too.
 
Out and about today, Kendall wasn't available in a couple stops check. Maybe others, I dunno.
But did see a Firestone Car Care place that recently opened and they had Kendall advertised out front. I didn't stop in, just noticed the sign so don't know if its an OTC available or if they service bulk. So as I drove by and said "Oh, looks like they have Kendall at this firestone"... wife asked if they have Barbie too lol
 
Firestone does use Kendall but at $34.99 for 5qts of GT-1 and a cheapie filter i think i will continue to diy. I would like to try Kendall but it's internet order so far. I cant seem to find it locally.
 
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