Originally Posted by SirTanon
Originally Posted by Jarlaxle
Originally Posted by BMWTurboDzl
Spend some time on enthusiast forums where there are a lot of leases (ex, BMW, Audi, VW, Subaru WRX).
Typical topics go like this : "I added XZY tune, catless downpipes and a meth kit. I plan on removing my tune and meth kit will the dealer flag my car if they see the downpipes? It's a lease."
Or
"Tracked my car this weekend with XYZ tune, catless dp, and FMIC. It was AWESOME! That being said I can't wait to pick up Model Y when my current lease is up. I should be able to get an easy 550 hp with a decent tune."
You can also check the classifieds section where people who lease are unloading their aftermarket parts because they have to return the car to stock prior to turning it in at lease end.
Still awaiting actual EVIDENCE. Not hearsay, not "look on forums", not speculation, actual EVIDENCE.
I have to agree with Jarl here. Just going on those forums and looking for posts where people say that kind of thing is a perfect example of
Confirmation Bias. It's also a very specific example, on a site where people are much more likely to do that kind of thing (it is, after all, an ENTHUSIAST forum), and are also highly likely to post/brag about it when they have. Can you show me an example or statistic from that site, of how many people also have one of those types of cars, go on those forums, but do NOT make any mods, and thus do not post? No, because you can't possible see those people since they do not post.
Also, how many people who lease these cars simply don't go on those forums at all, because they see these cars simply as conveyances, and are not "enthusiasts" because they have better things to do with their lives? I work in Scottsdale, AZ, and I see a TON of BMWs, Audi's, Mercedes, etc.. parked in the parking lot, many driven by executives, who like them because they are considered "luxury brands". I would say the odds are extremely high that they take good care of these cars and have them maintained meticulously, because they rely on them to get to work, etc..
The OP made a blanket statement stating 2-3 yr old used cars were best. I pointed out how there are circumstances where that is certainly not the case I mentioned certain brands where there's a propensity for owners beat on their cars because they're leases.. BMW being one of them. Sure not all BMW owners but there are plenty of young owners riding around in leased 2/(M)3/(M)4 series cars which have tunes and/or track their cars. There are companies which do hundreds of cars are year of all brands. Aftermarket is a multi-billion dollar a year business. Just look at the publications put out by SEMA.
As for a statistic, how in the world would anyone be able to come up with a statistic? My claim is no less factual than the OP's.
For the record my father leases Subarus and lives in the the NYC area. He beats his cars to [censored] and dumps them after 2 yrs. Happy now?
