Never noticed a difference between oils...but...

[irv]

I definitely noticed a difference in my vehicles going from Mobil to Pennzoil. The sound reduction was easily noticeable and the vehicles seemed to run smoother, but that was likely due to there being less noise?

And not to just pick on Mobil, I noticed a sound reduction when I switched out Yamalube in my Yamaha Vector snowmobile to Mobil 0W-40 syn Euro oil. (Those were different weights though)

 

[4WD]

Originally Posted By: irv
I definitely noticed a difference in my vehicles going from Mobil to Pennzoil. The sound reduction was easily noticeable and the vehicles seemed to run smoother, but that was likely due to there being less noise?

And not to just pick on Mobil, I noticed a sound reduction when I switched out Yamalube in my Yamaha Vector snowmobile to Mobil 0W-40 syn Euro oil. (Those were different weights though)


Sorry = other way for me on both Ford and GM … and it was PUP … louder on actual dB meter after it was brought to my attention …

On Yamaha (another fire in hole comment) ... my outboard sounded better on Royal Purple HPM 10w30 … but they apparently stopped making HPM … it was NMMA etc …

 

[kschachn]

Originally Posted By: irv
I definitely noticed a difference in my vehicles going from Mobil to Pennzoil. The sound reduction was easily noticeable and the vehicles seemed to run smoother, but that was likely due to there being less noise?

And not to just pick on Mobil, I noticed a sound reduction when I switched out Yamalube in my Yamaha Vector snowmobile to Mobil 0W-40 syn Euro oil. (Those were different weights though)

On all these sound discussions I don't understand how you all are able to accurately remember what the old oil sounded like when you first put it in. I have noticed that it seems like all new oil is quieter than the old oil, but that's comparing old vs. new. How are you remembering what the previous oil sounded like when it was new?

 

[DGXR]

Originally Posted By: mrdctaylor
I've been a long time BITOGer. I don't post a lot, but I read the forums on a weekly basis. I've owned my 2002 Tacoma since new and I've used all manner of synthetics in it. I've never discerned a difference in the way my engine runs on the different oils. I haven't expected to or attempted to. Last weekend I used some Magnatec (of the older syn blend variety) in it for the first time. I didn't think anything about it. But when I start the car it seems smoother/quieter. When I accelerate it seems smoother. It just sort of occurred to me that maybe the oil was the difference. Like I said, I've been doing this for 16 years on this same vehicle and this is the first time I've felt/heard a little difference. I wasn't expecting/looking for anything to be different, so I'm not sure this is just in my head. Granted, it isn't a huge difference by any means. But I swear it is there.

Has anyone else noticed something with Magnatec? Who knows. I'm just throwing it out there.


I have read here on BITOG lots of people say their engine runs quieter using Castrol synthetic: Edge or Magnatec or whatever. Smoother... maybe, I don't recall, but the noise thing for sure. Also keep in mind that certain types of engines (and even individual examples of the same engine) tend to be noisier or quieter than the next one. You might try going back to Napa synthetic and see if the previous symptoms return. Be sure to stay with the same OEM filter. Please post back any results from my suggestions or anyone else's -- I have a 2006 Tacoma that is fantastic, so I definitely want to know your results.

 

[ka9mnx]

Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: irv
I definitely noticed a difference in my vehicles going from Mobil to Pennzoil. The sound reduction was easily noticeable and the vehicles seemed to run smoother, but that was likely due to there being less noise?

And not to just pick on Mobil, I noticed a sound reduction when I switched out Yamalube in my Yamaha Vector snowmobile to Mobil 0W-40 syn Euro oil. (Those were different weights though)

On all these sound discussions I don't understand how you all are able to accurately remember what the old oil sounded like when you first put it in. I have noticed that it seems like all new oil is quieter than the old oil, but that's comparing old vs. new. How are you remembering what the previous oil sounded like when it was new?


I have the opposite reaction. When I put new oil in (Mobil1) it's noisy. After about 1k miles quites right down. About when the oil needs a change it starts getting noisy again. Go figure...

 

[Triple_Se7en]

Originally Posted By: TheLawnRanger
My Colorado is quieter now that I use FS 5w30 Magnatec. I will continue to use it. However, quieter doesn't necessarily mean better protection.


What is FS Magnatec? I only know of Castrol.

 

[bbhero]

I know what you are saying. And it really makes sense.

I will say that typically the difference is rather small if there really is any difference at all. One time that was not that way was when I changed the lady's Camry oil. It had a 50/50 mix of Super S and Cam2. That was noticeably louder when new vs the Federated Auto syn blend that replaced it.

 

[irv]

Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: irv
I definitely noticed a difference in my vehicles going from Mobil to Pennzoil. The sound reduction was easily noticeable and the vehicles seemed to run smoother, but that was likely due to there being less noise?

And not to just pick on Mobil, I noticed a sound reduction when I switched out Yamalube in my Yamaha Vector snowmobile to Mobil 0W-40 syn Euro oil. (Those were different weights though)

On all these sound discussions I don't understand how you all are able to accurately remember what the old oil sounded like when you first put it in. I have noticed that it seems like all new oil is quieter than the old oil, but that's comparing old vs. new. How are you remembering what the previous oil sounded like when it was new?


It's easy, imo, as I start and drive the vehicles to get them warm/hot first before an oil change. Doing multiple oil changes over the years, one notices these things, or at least I do.

My snowmobile, since it is fired and ran in my garage just prior to an oil change is even easier as I am right beside it during the warm up. After 10 or less minutes the new oil is put in and it's fired right back up to check the level.
I wrote about the switch years ago on here and also stated some other info about the switch that also surprised me. I had already made my mind up about Yamalube, but after the switch and hearing the difference cemented with me I would never ever go back to Yamalube.

 

[Bryanccfshr]

Originally Posted By: Triple_Se7en
Originally Posted By: TheLawnRanger
My Colorado is quieter now that I use FS 5w30 Magnatec. I will continue to use it. However, quieter doesn't necessarily mean better protection.


What is FS Magnatec? I only know of Castrol.


I believe he is referring to full synthetic.
The formulation has changed once again from the original full synthetic with new product data sheets and all.
I just filled my Tacoma with the newest.

 

[19jacobob93]

This is interesting cause I recently swapped out some Nulon fully synthetic 10w40 with added Moly for good old GTX UltraClean 15w40 blend. It was instantly much smoother on idle and acceleration and also quieter...
I've never been a Castrol fan and this is the first time I've used their products but I've since bought 5 more bottles when they went 75% off.

 

[PimTac]

Originally Posted By: oil_film_movies
Castrol says their Magnatec is quieter. It's unique as oil makers don't usually talk about decibel level differences.






It is unique but I wonder how many people can tell the difference in 1.5 decibels?

 

[Pajero]

I've had my Montero for twenty-four years. I can certainly tell the difference in sound with certain oils. But, I'm OCD with my Montero. She has lasted through a few relationships......lol



Respectfully,

Pajero!

 

[Dak27]

I've used a bunch of different brands in my V8's over the years, but I can't say I've noticed any sound differences.

I've ran nothing but PP 5W20 in my wife's Dodge Journey since it was new. I'm going to try 5W20 Kendall GT-1 Max FS on it's next oil change.

I do notice the Pentastar V6 is a little noisy right at startup, but only for a couple of seconds. I'll definitely be listening once the Kendall goes in.

 

[Dak27]

Originally Posted By: PimTac
Originally Posted By: oil_film_movies
Castrol says their Magnatec is quieter. It's unique as oil makers don't usually talk about decibel level differences.



lt is unique but I wonder how many people can tell the difference in 1.5 decibels?


I've been a musician, electric bass, for the majority of my life. A Recording Engineer told me the smallest increase or decrease normal human hearing can discern is 3db, but I've never researched his claim.

 

[JohnnyJohnson]

Originally Posted By: Dak27
Originally Posted By: PimTac
Originally Posted By: oil_film_movies
Castrol says their Magnatec is quieter. It's unique as oil makers don't usually talk about decibel level differences.



lt is unique but I wonder how many people can tell the difference in 1.5 decibels?


I've been a musician, electric bass, for the majority of my life. A Recording Engineer told me the smallest increase or decrease normal human hearing can discern is 3db, but I've never researched his claim.


Take the word from someone that has a Cochlear implant and that's if you have very good ears. Take a good ear test you'll be amazed and what you don't hear.

 

[PimTac]

“....Take the word from someone that has a Cochlear implant and that's if you have very good ears. Take a good ear test you'll be amazed and what you don't hear....”



I’m deaf in the right ear for the most part. Frequencies play a huge part here.

No implants for me. My iPhone and a Bluetooth earbud do help quite a bit.

 

[69Torino]

Less (almost none) piston slap audible in our Santa Fe 3.3 V6 after convincing the wife to let me switch it from M1 HM to Valvoline Full Synthetic. She was amused at the difference. I didn’t know it would happen, but she was irritated at the piston slap when cold. It was sort of a “just let me try it” thing. I already had a stock of Valvoline Synthetic in hand, so we didn’t have to buy oil that time. She now is no longer a Mobil 1 snob. Valvoline or Amsoil only.

As a side note, it would also burn almost a quart up of M1 over a 5k interval. Doesn’t burn a single molecule on Valvoline.

 

[wemay]

Well now that everyone except for Mobil1 has changed formulation to fall in line with d1G2, i wonder how this topic will change.

 

[PimTac]

Originally Posted By: wemay
Well now that everyone except for Mobil1 has changed formulation to fall in line with d1G2, i wonder how this topic will change.




It was stated on here somewhere that M1 has met the new standards since 2010 or 2012. I find that hard to believe though. Was the discussion of LSPI even being had back then?

 

[tig1]

Originally Posted By: 69Torino
Less (almost none) piston slap audible in our Santa Fe 3.3 V6 after convincing the wife to let me switch it from M1 HM to Valvoline Full Synthetic. She was amused at the difference. I didn’t know it would happen, but she was irritated at the piston slap when cold. It was sort of a “just let me try it” thing. I already had a stock of Valvoline Synthetic in hand, so we didn’t have to buy oil that time. She now is no longer a Mobil 1 snob. Valvoline or Amsoil only.

As a side note, it would also burn almost a quart up of M1 over a 5k interval. Doesn’t burn a single molecule on Valvoline.


You expect us to believe this? Single molecule?