I'm a Challenger guy myself. I probably would not buy one unless it was an SRT but of the 3 I'd still go R/T just because I love the car. Has an awesome feeling manual trans too!
Need some input on these three cars.
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Originally Posted By: RamFan
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Thanks for the input everyone. Looks like the Challenger is in the lead.
I did forget to add that I have also been thinking about the 2005-2006 GTO with the 6.0. Anyone have any input on this car? Keep them coming.
Wayne
Stay away! Yes they're fast, but they are extremely prone to issues.
Are you referring to the Challenger or GTO about having issues? Thanks.
I guess I should have clarified lol. The GTO. The Challenger is a rock solid vehicle.
Originally Posted By: RamFan
Originally Posted By: wtd
Thanks for the input everyone. Looks like the Challenger is in the lead.
I did forget to add that I have also been thinking about the 2005-2006 GTO with the 6.0. Anyone have any input on this car? Keep them coming.
Wayne
Stay away! Yes they're fast, but they are extremely prone to issues.
Are you referring to the Challenger or GTO about having issues? Thanks.
I guess I should have clarified lol. The GTO. The Challenger is a rock solid vehicle.
Originally Posted By: wtd
Originally Posted By: HM12460
Another vote for the Challenger, with the Mustang a very close 2nd. It's your money, which one do you like??
I actually like both but the MDS system on the Challenger did not seem very smooth to me and was very noticable while driving it. I would hope it would be something I could get used to.
Wayne
When I had my Magnum, I asked the dealer to put it on their computer because I didn't think the MDS was working. It was...but it was THAT seamless!
Originally Posted By: HM12460
Another vote for the Challenger, with the Mustang a very close 2nd. It's your money, which one do you like??
I actually like both but the MDS system on the Challenger did not seem very smooth to me and was very noticable while driving it. I would hope it would be something I could get used to.
Wayne
When I had my Magnum, I asked the dealer to put it on their computer because I didn't think the MDS was working. It was...but it was THAT seamless!
Originally Posted By: SLCraig
I'm a Challenger guy myself. I probably would not buy one unless it was an SRT but of the 3 I'd still go R/T just because I love the car. Has an awesome feeling manual trans too!
I'd like an SRT8 but I'm not willing to pay the premium price to buy one.
I'm not the only person who has said they can feel the MDS system working. I was talking to the service manager after I drove the car and he admitted that a lot of people he has talked to about it has described the same symptoms as I have. I don't know if it was the MDS or the transmission but there didn't seem to be the seamless transmission of power that people have said it is. I may be overly sensitive to how the car is running but I felt something I didn't care for. If I don't end up buying one it will be because of that. I like everything else about the car.
Wayne
I'm a Challenger guy myself. I probably would not buy one unless it was an SRT but of the 3 I'd still go R/T just because I love the car. Has an awesome feeling manual trans too!
I'd like an SRT8 but I'm not willing to pay the premium price to buy one.
I'm not the only person who has said they can feel the MDS system working. I was talking to the service manager after I drove the car and he admitted that a lot of people he has talked to about it has described the same symptoms as I have. I don't know if it was the MDS or the transmission but there didn't seem to be the seamless transmission of power that people have said it is. I may be overly sensitive to how the car is running but I felt something I didn't care for. If I don't end up buying one it will be because of that. I like everything else about the car.
Wayne
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The Camaro does nothing for me(I think that the the high point for the model in terns of looks and performance was the 1970 Z/28 RS). The R/T is a wonderful Cruiser, but I wish it was @500 pounds lighter and a foot shorter. The Mustang has the most sporting character, especially the 2011-up 5.0 with the Brembo package.
Since I already have a couple of track rats in the garage I'd find an SRT-8 with three pedals and relive my mis-spent youth...
Since I already have a couple of track rats in the garage I'd find an SRT-8 with three pedals and relive my mis-spent youth...
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Originally Posted By: RamFan
Originally Posted By: wtd
Originally Posted By: RamFan
Originally Posted By: wtd
Thanks for the input everyone. Looks like the Challenger is in the lead.
I did forget to add that I have also been thinking about the 2005-2006 GTO with the 6.0. Anyone have any input on this car? Keep them coming.
Wayne
Stay away! Yes they're fast, but they are extremely prone to issues.
Are you referring to the Challenger or GTO about having issues? Thanks.
I guess I should have clarified lol. The GTO. The Challenger is a rock solid vehicle.
Please elaborate.
I run in LS circles and race with a bunch of guys who have them. They are 6.0 T56 or 4L60E. No issues. The largest problem is snapping half axles if you race often. The 6.0 cars run anywhere from 13.00 to 13.50.
So what kind of issues have they had? The drivetrain is solid. Just like the one in the Corvette and CTS-V.
Originally Posted By: wtd
Originally Posted By: RamFan
Originally Posted By: wtd
Thanks for the input everyone. Looks like the Challenger is in the lead.
I did forget to add that I have also been thinking about the 2005-2006 GTO with the 6.0. Anyone have any input on this car? Keep them coming.
Wayne
Stay away! Yes they're fast, but they are extremely prone to issues.
Are you referring to the Challenger or GTO about having issues? Thanks.
I guess I should have clarified lol. The GTO. The Challenger is a rock solid vehicle.
Please elaborate.
I run in LS circles and race with a bunch of guys who have them. They are 6.0 T56 or 4L60E. No issues. The largest problem is snapping half axles if you race often. The 6.0 cars run anywhere from 13.00 to 13.50.
So what kind of issues have they had? The drivetrain is solid. Just like the one in the Corvette and CTS-V.
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Originally Posted By: wtd
I'm thinking of buying one of these three cars in the near future and would like some opinions and your experience with them. 1. Dodge R/T Challenger. 2. Ford Mustang GT and 3. Chevy Camaro SS. I want the V8 and automatic transmission.
I plan on buying new or slightly used. I have driven all three and like various things about all three. I'm not too sure about the MDS system in the Challenger. It almost felt like the car was missing when it was going between the 4 and 8 cylinder mode. This was on two different cars that I drove. The 5.7 Hemi also seemed kind of noisy. On the mustangs I'm looking at the cars that have the newer 5.0 and the 6.2 in the Camaro.
Any way, I would like to hear the likes and dislikes of these cars from people who own them or have owned them. Thanks.
Wayne
Are you going to track it?
I'm thinking of buying one of these three cars in the near future and would like some opinions and your experience with them. 1. Dodge R/T Challenger. 2. Ford Mustang GT and 3. Chevy Camaro SS. I want the V8 and automatic transmission.
I plan on buying new or slightly used. I have driven all three and like various things about all three. I'm not too sure about the MDS system in the Challenger. It almost felt like the car was missing when it was going between the 4 and 8 cylinder mode. This was on two different cars that I drove. The 5.7 Hemi also seemed kind of noisy. On the mustangs I'm looking at the cars that have the newer 5.0 and the 6.2 in the Camaro.
Any way, I would like to hear the likes and dislikes of these cars from people who own them or have owned them. Thanks.
Wayne
Are you going to track it?
1 Mustang, The manual trans has had problems. But you are looking at an auto. I like the styling.
2 Challenger is a real close second. A guy at work has one and it is nice.
3 Camaro, Three co-workers have these in different forms. I feel claustrophobic in them and would never think of buying one.
2 Challenger is a real close second. A guy at work has one and it is nice.
3 Camaro, Three co-workers have these in different forms. I feel claustrophobic in them and would never think of buying one.
I love the Challenger, I have never had the opportunity to drive one, but just from sitting in them I have always thought they were the most authentic modern interpretation of the original. I'd love to have a 2011+ R/T
You can't beat the looks and reliability of the Challenger.
Originally Posted By: ls1mike
Originally Posted By: wtd
I'm thinking of buying one of these three cars in the near future and would like some opinions and your experience with them. 1. Dodge R/T Challenger. 2. Ford Mustang GT and 3. Chevy Camaro SS. I want the V8 and automatic transmission.
I plan on buying new or slightly used. I have driven all three and like various things about all three. I'm not too sure about the MDS system in the Challenger. It almost felt like the car was missing when it was going between the 4 and 8 cylinder mode. This was on two different cars that I drove. The 5.7 Hemi also seemed kind of noisy. On the mustangs I'm looking at the cars that have the newer 5.0 and the 6.2 in the Camaro.
Any way, I would like to hear the likes and dislikes of these cars from people who own them or have owned them. Thanks.
Wayne
Are you going to track it?
Not going to track it. Going to be my toy and probably my last newer car purchase going into retirement in a few years. I want to have something paid for when I retire.
I was seriously thinking about the Mustang until I started reading about some problems with the new 5.0. The 2013 I drove the other day with 11,000 miles on it sounded a little funny at higher rpms. I'm not saying I won't get one but it might have gone to second behind the challenger for consideration.
I went today after work to just look at the purple challenger I drove last week and it made me want it all over again. I now just have to decide if I want to spend the roughly $475 a month to get it.
Wayne
Originally Posted By: wtd
I'm thinking of buying one of these three cars in the near future and would like some opinions and your experience with them. 1. Dodge R/T Challenger. 2. Ford Mustang GT and 3. Chevy Camaro SS. I want the V8 and automatic transmission.
I plan on buying new or slightly used. I have driven all three and like various things about all three. I'm not too sure about the MDS system in the Challenger. It almost felt like the car was missing when it was going between the 4 and 8 cylinder mode. This was on two different cars that I drove. The 5.7 Hemi also seemed kind of noisy. On the mustangs I'm looking at the cars that have the newer 5.0 and the 6.2 in the Camaro.
Any way, I would like to hear the likes and dislikes of these cars from people who own them or have owned them. Thanks.
Wayne
Are you going to track it?
Not going to track it. Going to be my toy and probably my last newer car purchase going into retirement in a few years. I want to have something paid for when I retire.
I was seriously thinking about the Mustang until I started reading about some problems with the new 5.0. The 2013 I drove the other day with 11,000 miles on it sounded a little funny at higher rpms. I'm not saying I won't get one but it might have gone to second behind the challenger for consideration.
I went today after work to just look at the purple challenger I drove last week and it made me want it all over again. I now just have to decide if I want to spend the roughly $475 a month to get it.
Wayne
Originally Posted By: wtd
I went today after work to just look at the purple challenger I drove last week and it made me want it all over again. I now just have to decide if I want to spend the roughly $475 a month to get it.
Wayne
To paraphrase fellow Kentuckian David E. Davis Jr.- Life is too short to drive boring cars.
Do it.
I went today after work to just look at the purple challenger I drove last week and it made me want it all over again. I now just have to decide if I want to spend the roughly $475 a month to get it.
Wayne
To paraphrase fellow Kentuckian David E. Davis Jr.- Life is too short to drive boring cars.
Do it.
well, I still have not bought anything yet. I had finally decided to go buy the Purple R/T Classic Challenger that I had been looking at and they had sold it the day before. I guess that's what I get for procrastinating. They found another car optioned identical about 168 miles away but when they tried to talk to them about doing a trade, it was also sold. I'm thinking a Challenger may not be in my future as the only color I want is Purple and most of the purple ones out there have a bunch a stuff on them that I don't want and won't pay for. The ones that I have found that are what I want are too far away.
I guess it might be a sign that I shouldn't buy anything right now.
Wayne
I guess it might be a sign that I shouldn't buy anything right now.
Wayne
I'm thinking Mustang GT again. More bang for the buck and I don't think the 5.0 engine issues are as wide spread as I first thought. I love my fiancée's 07 GT and it doesn't have near the horsepower or torque of the 2014's and it's still a blast to drive.
Wayne
Wayne
I can't see the Stang as even comparable to the Challenger.
The Stang is a 2 door sports car whereas the Challenger is a GT, way too big and heavy to even be competitive to the Stang.
The Challenger is heavy, very solid structure, and tons of hidden content. But it is unlikely to perform like the Mustang.
And the issues with the Stang are few and far between, the odds are in favor of the consumer here!
The Stang is a 2 door sports car whereas the Challenger is a GT, way too big and heavy to even be competitive to the Stang.
The Challenger is heavy, very solid structure, and tons of hidden content. But it is unlikely to perform like the Mustang.
And the issues with the Stang are few and far between, the odds are in favor of the consumer here!
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
I can't see the Stang as even comparable to the Challenger.
The Stang is a 2 door sports car whereas the Challenger is a GT, way too big and heavy to even be competitive to the Stang.
The Challenger is heavy, very solid structure, and tons of hidden content. But it is unlikely to perform like the Mustang.
And the issues with the Stang are few and far between, the odds are in favor of the consumer here!
So are you saying the Mustang is a better deal? I assume from your user name that you are a Dodge fan and that you would choose the Challenger over the Mustang. I know performance wise the Mustang would be the winner but overall looking at build quality etc. what is a better car? Thanks.
Wayne
I can't see the Stang as even comparable to the Challenger.
The Stang is a 2 door sports car whereas the Challenger is a GT, way too big and heavy to even be competitive to the Stang.
The Challenger is heavy, very solid structure, and tons of hidden content. But it is unlikely to perform like the Mustang.
And the issues with the Stang are few and far between, the odds are in favor of the consumer here!
So are you saying the Mustang is a better deal? I assume from your user name that you are a Dodge fan and that you would choose the Challenger over the Mustang. I know performance wise the Mustang would be the winner but overall looking at build quality etc. what is a better car? Thanks.
Wayne
Here is some irony for you guys. I mentioned in my post above about the purple Challenger that my one dealer was trying to trade for that was 168 miles away.
Friday I go past the Dodge dealership that is a mile from the house that has no challengers and what do I see in the back lot but a Purple Challenger with white stripes. We pull up close to the fence and can see the name of a dealer on the back spoiler and it's the name of the dealer that is 168 miles away.
The next day I call the dealership and ask about the car and they tell me it's sold and it did come from the neighboring state. Today as I come home, I see it sitting out front by the dealership. It was gone on Saturday so I assumed the new owner's had picked it up. I had copied the paperwork online that showed the VIN so I wrote down this car's VIN to compare and sure enough, it was the car from 168 miles away.
So, I'm not sure if the car is sold or not. They don't have it listed online for sale and there are no tags or paperwork in the windows. I'm going to call tomorrow and ask about it but I have an appointment tomorrow after work to go look at and possibly buy a Mustang GT. If this Challenger is for sale, I'm not sure what I'm going to do as I had already pretty given up on the Challenger and decided on the Mustang. The Mustang is also about 3,000 less dollars but the Challenger is better equipped. I really like the looks of the Challenger better but the Mustang has the horsepower thing going for it. Maybe the Challenger really is sold and I won't have to make that decision.
Wayne
Friday I go past the Dodge dealership that is a mile from the house that has no challengers and what do I see in the back lot but a Purple Challenger with white stripes. We pull up close to the fence and can see the name of a dealer on the back spoiler and it's the name of the dealer that is 168 miles away.
The next day I call the dealership and ask about the car and they tell me it's sold and it did come from the neighboring state. Today as I come home, I see it sitting out front by the dealership. It was gone on Saturday so I assumed the new owner's had picked it up. I had copied the paperwork online that showed the VIN so I wrote down this car's VIN to compare and sure enough, it was the car from 168 miles away.
So, I'm not sure if the car is sold or not. They don't have it listed online for sale and there are no tags or paperwork in the windows. I'm going to call tomorrow and ask about it but I have an appointment tomorrow after work to go look at and possibly buy a Mustang GT. If this Challenger is for sale, I'm not sure what I'm going to do as I had already pretty given up on the Challenger and decided on the Mustang. The Mustang is also about 3,000 less dollars but the Challenger is better equipped. I really like the looks of the Challenger better but the Mustang has the horsepower thing going for it. Maybe the Challenger really is sold and I won't have to make that decision.
Wayne
Originally Posted By: wtd
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
I can't see the Stang as even comparable to the Challenger.
The Stang is a 2 door sports car whereas the Challenger is a GT, way too big and heavy to even be competitive to the Stang.
The Challenger is heavy, very solid structure, and tons of hidden content. But it is unlikely to perform like the Mustang.
And the issues with the Stang are few and far between, the odds are in favor of the consumer here!
So are you saying the Mustang is a better deal? I assume from your user name that you are a Dodge fan and that you would choose the Challenger over the Mustang. I know performance wise the Mustang would be the winner but overall looking at build quality etc. what is a better car? Thanks.
Wayne
No offense to any Stang owners as their car is a ton of fun on wheels. Dynamically terrific and a bargain to boot.
But the Challenger is a great chassis, extremely stiff, allows for a better ride with fantastic handling. Much larger inside and out, with a real back seat. Better road noise and vibration isolation, less fatigue on the long haul. Very sophisticated suspension design, IRS, etc.
My car has been a unique experience for me, it's a 300 but it is nearly identical to a Challenger under the skin. My doors still shut like a bank vault after 8 years of flogging. It has aged surprisingly like a car with german heritage is typically thought to, except it has been virtually problem free.
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
I can't see the Stang as even comparable to the Challenger.
The Stang is a 2 door sports car whereas the Challenger is a GT, way too big and heavy to even be competitive to the Stang.
The Challenger is heavy, very solid structure, and tons of hidden content. But it is unlikely to perform like the Mustang.
And the issues with the Stang are few and far between, the odds are in favor of the consumer here!
So are you saying the Mustang is a better deal? I assume from your user name that you are a Dodge fan and that you would choose the Challenger over the Mustang. I know performance wise the Mustang would be the winner but overall looking at build quality etc. what is a better car? Thanks.
Wayne
No offense to any Stang owners as their car is a ton of fun on wheels. Dynamically terrific and a bargain to boot.
But the Challenger is a great chassis, extremely stiff, allows for a better ride with fantastic handling. Much larger inside and out, with a real back seat. Better road noise and vibration isolation, less fatigue on the long haul. Very sophisticated suspension design, IRS, etc.
My car has been a unique experience for me, it's a 300 but it is nearly identical to a Challenger under the skin. My doors still shut like a bank vault after 8 years of flogging. It has aged surprisingly like a car with german heritage is typically thought to, except it has been virtually problem free.
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