"My engine loves this oil"-Mostly bogus

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I've been browsing this forum for a few weeks now, and this statement is pretty funny...

How do you guys know if your car 'loves' a certain oil? I've owned/built cars with more HP then most people on here and driven on average 20K miles a year and I've never felt compelled to make this statement.

T
 
Ever see the commercial where the engine has broken into a store at night, after hours and is on a Pennzoil binge. This actually happened and they had to use Pennzoil Platinum to lure the motor out of the store so they could shoot it with a sludge gun. Never Ever EVER leave oil in your garage lying about... the fact is engines do love oil and will go on a binge if left to there own devices.

I had an F150 302 that loved oil so much it would drink two quarts every hundred miles. This is scientific proof that engines do love oil!
 
" This is scientific proof that engines do love oil!"

Can't speak for others but you convinced me.
 
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I've been browsing this forum for a few weeks now, and this statement is pretty funny...

How do you guys know if your car 'loves' a certain oil? I've owned/built cars with more HP then most people on here and driven on average 20K miles a year and I've never felt compelled to make this statement.

T




I think people may be refering to the fact that one oil may produce better wear numbers when compared to another via a UOA.
 
Turbo, 90% of the time I'd say your right. Some oils do have lower coefficient of friction than others, but the majority of what some people think is the oil performing better, is really the gasoline they use. I generally use Shell, regular. On this last fill I used Lukoil 89(plus) and my car is more responsive. Same oil, different gas.
 
Travis, how do you know if you've built more/owned more high powered cars than most people on here? I just find it's funny that you're laughing at a generalization and then backing it up with a generalization.
 
I agree with buster. I was using FP60 for the last few years till recently i added Lucas UCL and has really quieted my engine down. The oil is still the same.
 
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I've been browsing this forum for a few weeks now, and this statement is pretty funny...

How do you guys know if your car 'loves' a certain oil? I've owned/built cars with more HP then most people on here and driven on average 20K miles a year and I've never felt compelled to make this statement.

T




Mee Too - I pretty much get a chuckle when someone who has never done UOA #1 or consulted with Terry or done a tear down and measure and rebuild says this. Mostly it's by sound, IMHO.
 
Well, I've driven more than a million miles. I've driven in 48 states. My 62 Pontiac Catalina loves Quaker State. My 68 Pontiac Le Mans loves old formula Havoline. And, my 99 Mercury Grand Marquis loves Valvoline. "Loves" = Smooth and quiet. I guess you just have not yet experienced the differences. Perhaps in time.
 
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Turbo, 90% of the time I'd say your right. Some oils do have lower coefficient of friction than others, but the majority of what some people think is the oil performing better, is really the gasoline they use. I generally use Shell, regular. On this last fill I used Lukoil 89(plus) and my car is more responsive. Same oil, different gas.




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You use Shell Gasoline?
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I don't know how many people tell me that Shell gasoline sucks. Maybe they're the same ones that tell me Pennzoil is made out of wax and causes sludge.
 
It's likely has more to do with the good feelings of the individual in response to how the engine is operating now verses then. It's a perception thing, and whose reasoning is likely applied to some attempt - like an oil change or other, but whose actual cause might be the result of something else. There's only so much one can possible know at any given time within the changing dynamics of existence - realtime. One can't thing that fast, let along react, if ever maintain awareness of all that's changing.

I to suffer from what might factually be nothing more than wishful thinking, but honestly I can't say if I'll ever really know or not. That's not 100% of the time, but that not 0% either. Aspects of any one things perhaps. ???

Take care.
 
While there are likely a lot of bogus claims, there are a lot of ways that someone other than Terry or your rebuilder can tell you that an oil is serving you well. Consumption, sound on cold start, valvetrain sound (ie. the whole M1 thing), how it cranks and or sounds when it's -10F, oil temperature when towing, fuel economy, cleanliness under the valve cover, whatever.. Of course it's true that a quiet, low consumption oil could have a worse UOA. Then you'd need to ask yourself - would I rather have a quiet engine or a couple ppm lower lead?

I like the character of my engine better with GC than M1 0W40. I knew that before UOAs, and UOAs confirm that both offer excellent protection. Does "my engine love" GC? More than M1 0W40 anyways....
 
If you want some great entertainment, read all posts by the member: 06VTECV6
I think I spelled that right.
His best moment may have been when he thought the Pennzoil Platinum made his AC blow colder air.
 
Understood. Points taken. I guess I was thinking of love in the biblical sense, to the exclusion of all other lovers......er oil.....ie, my engine loves THIS and ONLY THIS oil.....honestly about the first 10 miles on ANY oil "feels" the best, however seemingly this is when the MOST wear occurs.

But yes there are layman techniques you can use to proclaim your oil romanceable.
 
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If you want some great entertainment, read all posts by the member: 06VTECV6
I think I spelled that right.
His best moment may have been when he thought the Pennzoil Platinum made his AC blow colder air.



Entertainment, but to a point. The A/C post prompted me add him to my ignore list. Too bad I still get to see his nonsense when people quote him.
 
I've owned a Viper GTS, a 900 HP Supra, a 700 HP Lexus, and a 270 HP turbocharged 4 stroke snowmobile..

I look at it this way. Joe Blow is running XXX dino oil in his car. He gets his AMSOIL shipment in the mail that he has been thinking about night in and night out for a few weeks. He opens the box, gets a big grin and immediatly runs out and changes the oil. Once he starts it up, he can automatically tell that the engine runs WAY smoother and that the engine LOVES the oil...

Point is, if you tell yourself something for long enough you'll believe it.


T
 
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Well, I've driven more than a million miles. I've driven in 48 states. My 62 Pontiac Catalina loves Quaker State. My 68 Pontiac Le Mans loves old formula Havoline. And, my 99 Mercury Grand Marquis loves Valvoline. "Loves" = Smooth and quiet. I guess you just have not yet experienced the differences. Perhaps in time.




I don't believe it. I could take the Marquis and change the oil to a different dino oil while you were sleeping and you'd drive off in it and never know the difference.

T
 
What an interesting topic. Good point from original poster, if not a little, um, brash? Forgive me-- here's an argument.

I've never done a UOA. I'd like to, but have never had problems with long OCIs (10,000 mile) and brand name syn oil.

Now, I grew up setting carb mixtures by ear, even gapped valves in a pinch with folded notebook paper based on the math, built a hovercraft from lawnmower parts, and rebuilt my first v8 before I could drive.

When you've been around your motor long enuf, you can gather clues on how it's doing based on feel, vibration, smoothness, sound, reviness, mpg, consumption... not scientific, but maybe...as an art? How many of us can remember the signs of overly rich vs overly lean mix on acceleration? One spits/pops and one chugs. How many of us had that old chevy with 450 rpm idle that for some reason couldn't idle on rainy days and would hence get a quick 50 rpm boost at the screw if the weather looked bad?

By knowing my own vehicle, I know it balances out better with certain oils than others. I feel I have a right to that opinion, I've earned it. But just like the original poster, I can't accept "My car loves this oil" on face value from someone else because I have no idea why they came to that conclusion. Maybe they're like me and have a good balance of reasons. Maybe it's because it's what dad used.

I think there is truth on both sides of the question. Lets not be too hasty to judge.

Mike
 
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