Michelin CrossClimate2 wear concerns

[MParr]

This^^^^^^^. I was lucky to get 20,000 on Michelin Energy Savers in city driving. Replaced with Defender 2's Initial impression. The Defender 2's track well and are quieter and smoother up to about 45. Jolting if the pothole is deep. The Defender 2's lose about 5% mpg city and 10% highway vs. the Energy Savers. 17 Camry. .02

Michelin Energy Savers are horrible. I got 38,000 on a set. From my experiences, LRR tires aren't really good at anything.

 

[4WD]

Michelin Energy Savers are horrible. I got 38,000 on a set. From my experiences, LRR tires aren't really good at anything.

Almost identical results - got a longer run from the Cooper SRX - and they excel in the rain …

 

[FZ1]

Michelin Energy Savers are horrible. I got 38,000 on a set. From my experiences, LRR tires aren't really good at anything.

Yep. 3 of us got similar results. Some posters driving highway miles have achieved OK numbers. I noticed the utog numbers are dramatically different ,about 400 vs. 800. The Savers are just softer and seem not to take well to the short trip turning and scrubbing of city driving.

 

[MParr]

Yep. 3 of us got similar results. Some posters driving highway miles have achieved OK numbers. I noticed the utog numbers are dramatically different ,about 400 vs. 800. The Savers are just softer and seem not to take well to the short trip turning and scrubbing of city

I would say that I had more highway miles on mine. The traction was pretty bad. In fact, they were horrible in the rain. I think most LRR tires have poor wet weather traction.

 

[FZ1]

I would say that I had more highway miles on mine. The traction was pretty bad. In fact, they were horrible in the rain. I think most LRR tires have poor wet weather traction.

Did you notice a mpg drop on your replacement tires?

 

[MParr]

Did you notice a mpg drop on your replacement tires?

No. This was a 2017 Ford Escape 2.0 Ecoboost. I put on Hankook Ventus S1 Noble 2 tires. They were night and day better than the Energy Savers. I value safety over maybe 1/2 mpg savings.

 

[duck__dodgers]

wondering if anyone is willing to a guinea pig and try one of these....Laufenn G Fit 4S

(Hankook sub-brand with the 3-Peak rating, never heard of it until a Youtube advert)

Opposite end of pricing versus the Crossclimate, how bad could it be, lol?!

https://www.discounttire.com/buy-tires/laufenn-g-fit-4s/p/179717

 

[ryanschillinger]

Original tires are not some benchmark.
Manufacturers sacrifice performance for mpg or longevity.
The only Michelin tire that did not last 27k on my car was the Michelin Pilot Super Sport, and they should not last 27k.

I understand that, but my experience has generally been replacement tires are better quality than originals. Not the case this time.

 

[ryanschillinger]

That means they were under-inflated. Your factory OE tire pressure spec is what the manufacturer decided on for the OE tire and to give optimal ride quality. Different tires have different carcass designs and distribute the load across the tread differently, so if the outside or inside of the tread starts wearing prematurely then you need to adjust pressures accordingly for that tire. That was not a Michelin problem.

You really seem set on finding fault with anything but the tires and the way they wore. When I originally noted the wear pattern, I increased pressure as you’d expect and kept an eye on them. It still wore edges. Alignment was good. Rotated and balanced regularly at Costco. I’m not the only person whose tires wore like this, and it’s not like this was my first set of tires…

 

[ryanschillinger]

wondering if anyone is willing to a guinea pig and try one of these....Laufenn G Fit 4S

(Hankook sub-brand with the 3-Peak rating, never heard of it until a Youtube advert)

Opposite end of pricing versus the Crossclimate, how bad could it be, lol?!

https://www.discounttire.com/buy-tires/laufenn-g-fit-4s/p/179717

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Nice looking tires and the price seems very reasonable if they’re decent.

 

[rszappa1]

Michelin Energy Savers are horrible. I got 38,000 on a set. From my experiences, LRR tires aren't really good at anything.

I got over 65000 out of those tires on my 2007 Honda Accord...

 

[nthach]

Michelin Energy Savers are horrible. I got 38,000 on a set. From my experiences, LRR tires aren't really good at anything.

I had a set of Michelin Primacy MXV4s on the Prius once. It delivered similar MPG as the factory Goodyear Integrity but also was much more confident for handling and in the wet. Only had to replace them prematurely due to a crash(wasn’t our fault), body shop said they were discontinued.

 

[HighHy21]

The cross climate 2 siping changes quickly. The new siping is only deep enough to win tests. Then after that, the stepped siping in the center disappears to 2 straight lines and the shoulder sipe is only partial across. It ends up looking like the original CrossClimate tires.

compared to new: