MG ZS

So, I guess this is the first real showing of Chinese (FAIC with an MG badge) cars in Europe? If so, your impressions do not paint a favourable picture.
 
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And so it continues…
 
Just a little update. I don't plan on using this as a diary like I do my Duster thread as it will be getting maintained solely at the dealer. But while it's being an unreliable pile of excrement, I'll add some notes and thoughts.

So after the radio went faulty again we started suffering with battery drain. Apparently this radio issue is a common fault that's been going on for a long time (I can find threads going back to 2021 on MG forums) and is down to a faulty DAB radio module. When the module is in a 'faulty' state it doesn't go to sleep and drains the battery. You can reset the module by disconnecting the battery, but after a couple of days it goes back into fault.

The dealer replaced the radio module on Monday morning and we haven't seen the issue again. But it's early days.

So we currently own a 7 week old car that's been back to the dealer 3 times and had breakdown assistance phoned on it a number of times to jump start it.

The engine is not getting better. It's honestly so flat and lumpy low down. Totally unacceptable for such a modern car to drive so poorly. Oh, and the trip computer has settled down at 31mpg (26mpg US).

Even more interesting was a Facebook page I come across for the MG ZS. Most pages I'm on, if someone complains their car is unreliable people suggest that you're a one off, they're good cars, give it a chance etc. The MG page was just full of people agreeing with me and saying how poor the cars were. Quite a few people had started off with the bigger MG HS, had a load of issues with it and then were convinced by the dealer to try a ZS instead.

Urgh. I'm just glad it's got a 7 year warranty and 4 year service plan and that I shouldn't need to touch the thing.
 
My MG HS should arrive in July. It's got the 1.5 turbo though. That was half the reason I chose the HS over the ZS, neither the 1.0 turbo or 1.5 NA could convince me.

Turbo engines are only economical if you don't need boost for cruise and light acceleration. But when you do, you're better off with a bigger NA engine. So the engine in your ZS would be best suited for motorway use, the 1.0 turbo for around town. I'm hoping the 1.5 turbo can cruise at 45 mph without boost in 6th or 7th gear. They seem to get better mileage than your ZS anyway (in a bigger car too)

I'll open up a thread about mine when it gets here. ICE sales (new cars and possibly trucks aswell, that's a new development) are getting banned in 2029 so I need to find a decent enough petrol car before then. I wasn't gonna put all my eggs in a 2028 basket with a rotten bottom....
 
My MG HS should arrive in July. It's got the 1.5 turbo though. That was half the reason I chose the HS over the ZS, neither the 1.0 turbo or 1.5 NA could convince me.

Turbo engines are only economical if you don't need boost for cruise and light acceleration. But when you do, you're better off with a bigger NA engine. So the engine in your ZS would be best suited for motorway use, the 1.0 turbo for around town. I'm hoping the 1.5 turbo can cruise at 45 mph without boost in 6th or 7th gear. They seem to get better mileage than your ZS anyway (in a bigger car too)

I'll open up a thread about mine when it gets here. ICE sales (new cars and possibly trucks aswell, that's a new development) are getting banned in 2029 so I need to find a decent enough petrol car before then. I wasn't gonna put all my eggs in a 2028 basket with a rotten bottom....

I'm surprised you're having to wait? Our local dealer has hundreds of the things ready to go.
 
So today is 6 months and 3 days since we took ownership of the MG ZS and it's on it's way back to the dealer for a refund. Much like the lemon law in the US, if a new car goes back more than twice within the first 6 months with the same issue then you're eligible for a refund.

Intermittent flat batteries continued and now it's started popping the fuse randomly for the fuel pump control module.

Here it is after being stranded on the side of the road for 4 hours on Monday evening while I waited for AA to come save me.

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I'm quite relieved. It wasn't a nice car to drive and I started to loose trust in it. My Wife wants to go back to driving beaters, anxious now for the next chapter and picking a suitable replacement.
 
So today is 6 months and 3 days since we took ownership of the MG ZS and it's on it's way back to the dealer for a refund. Much like the lemon law in the US, if a new car goes back more than twice within the first 6 months with the same issue then you're eligible for a refund.

Intermittent flat batteries continued and now it's started popping the fuse randomly for the fuel pump control module.

Here it is after being stranded on the side of the road for 4 hours on Monday evening while I waited for AA to come save me.

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I'm quite relieved. It wasn't a nice car to drive and I started to loose trust in it. My Wife wants to go back to driving beaters, anxious now for the next chapter and picking a suitable replacement.
So, I guess this is the first real showing of Chinese (FAIC with an MG badge) cars in Europe? If so, your impressions do not paint a favourable picture.
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It was new car time for my Wife (again) after a strange 12 months of car swapping.

She had a 2017 Dacia Logan MCV 1.5DCi for 2 years or so but decided in Spring 2023 that the Logan wasn't 'cool' enough and bought a 2015 Mini Cooper instead. The Mini was an awesome car, but very quickly my Wife realised it was totally impractical for child duties. So she traded that for a 2014 Ford B-Max in August 2023.

The B-Max was a great car, they're heavily based on the MK7 Fiesta and I had plans to try find a written off 5 door Fiesta ST and do a full drivetrain and suspension swap. BUT... my Wife decided once again the B-Max wasn't 'cool' enough and wanted something else. She came across an offer currently ongoing on a brand new MG ZS and decided she wanted one. The only input I had was deciding which of the two engines to order.

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There was three combinations of engine and gearbox to choose from. There was a 1.5 chain driven, port injected, naturally aspirated petrol engine with a 5 speed manual. Or there was a 1.0 TGDI engine with a 6 speed manual or 6 speed automatic. Naturally as the BITOGer that I am, only the 1.5 would do!
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It's a very quiet and smooth engine. I believe it has some GM history? But it's totally gutless and so far, abysmal on fuel. Once you get it above 4000rpm or so it starts to move a bit but honestly, it feels very asthmatic. The only other good thing is there is huge amounts of space around the engine in the engine bay. A clutch change looks an absolute doodle as there's just so much room to wiggle the gearbox about in there!

Not particularly impressed with the customer service from the supplying dealer. A few days after my Wife picked it up she drove down to Swindon and back (~200miles) to see her Girlfriend and phoned me up complaining that she wasn't impressed with the way the car was on the motorway and it felt very 'floaty'. Thought I'd just take a look when she got it home and...

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Looks like someone got a little excited during the PDI!

Recommended tyre pressures...
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I mentioned adjusted the tyre pressures and mentioned it to the sales person who was quite uninterested. I didn't know if I should be a total a-hole and demand new tyres considering the tyres say max 44psi. But decided to just leave it where it was.

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Then a couple more days later the radio stopped working. I told my Wife to phone the dealer who told her she could bring it down on the 22nd April for diagnosis, she wasn't happy about this but isn't a confrontational person so just booked it in and left it at that. I wasn't happy at all and ended up phoning myself and was told by the service advisor that was the absolute soonest they could have the car in for diagnosis. I ended up quite sternly telling them to leave a message for the salesman explaining the situation and tell them I'll be returning the car for a refund as expecting someone to wait 3-4 weeks to have a fault repaired on a car that was less than a week old was totally unacceptable. Weirdly, they phoned me up 10 minutes later and told me to bring it down the next morning. That turned out to be a cable had fallen out behind the head unit. It really annoys me when you have to get assertive and angry to get a reasonable and fair solution to things!

I can't help but compare it to my Duster as they are both the cheapest SUV's available right now and in the same class.

Things I like...
- The interior feels better put together than the Duster and generally looks more upmarket.
- The interior is also quieter at speed.
- Seats are comfier than the Duster which I feel are too short on the base.
- The infotainment screen is also nicer to look at and more touch sensitive than that on the Duster.
- There's a lot more rear legroom than the Duster.
- 8 way electric drivers seat! I love how you can fine tune your seating position with electric controls.
- The boots more practical than that in my Duster.
- Steering wheel is much nicer than that in my Duster.
- 7 year/80,000miles warranty is an absolute win!

Things I dislike...
- It's awful on fuel. So far it's averaged 27.4mpg (~20mpg's in US currency) and it's spent most of it's time on the motorway.
- It's so slow and gutless at low RPM.
- It's FWD. Why? What's the point? You take a car, ruin it's handing, comfort and fuel economy by jacking it up and then handicap it with front wheel drive. Arghhh.
- The instrument cluster is an absolute mess and generally hard to read and navigate.
- The infotainment system is slow to respond and again is just hard to navigate compared to the one on the Duster.
- Fake leather just feels and looks terrible. It's just perfectly smooth and flat with no grain or any effort put in at all.
- It has a key! Why doesn't the top of the range model have keyless start? The Duster has keyless entry and start.
- The suspension is ROCK HARD and doesn't handle particularly well. In fact my Wife was driving my Duster yesterday and commented on how lively the Duster felt compared to her MG ZS.

So would I buy one? I wouldn't. I personally think the Duster is a far better buy and a much nicer drive. BUT my Wife is happy with it so that's all that really matters. The good news is we got a free 4 year service plan so I have no intention of touching it for a long long time.

And of course...
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Did your wife not take it for a test drive? Was taking it home over the weekend not an option? I'm shocked it even offers a manual transmission. Third isn't MG now Chinese owned, so behind the curve in certain areas and more or less mediocre Chinese quality with an MG badge?
 
Did your wife not take it for a test drive? Was taking it home over the weekend not an option? I'm shocked it even offers a manual transmission. Third isn't MG now Chinese owned, so behind the curve in certain areas and more or less mediocre Chinese quality with an MG badge?
In fairness, real MGs built in the Abingdon on Thames factory were also of mediocre quality at best.
I write this having spent many miles in an MGB I bought while young. I was well enough informed not to expect trouble free use out of it.
At least it was easy to fix as needed.
I still have the car sitting in the rear part of the garage, bought 45 years ago.
 
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