Metzeler Tires Cheap?

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A guy I was talking to the other day had a Michelin tire put on his Honda CBR 600 and said the Metzeler tires on my bike are "inexpensive tires". I thought Metzeler were very good tires.
 
I know a few that run the Metzeler 880s and all have nothing but good things to say about them. All say they will buy them again.
There are cheaper inexpensive tires out there, but the Metzlers seem to be a good mileage tire with good ride & performance.

I'm thinking on one of my bikes I'll be replacing the Dunlop Elite-IIs within a year, and I'll probably look into getting Metzlers when the time comes.

On cruiser style bikes, I have had good luck with Avon Venom, and the current Maxxis tires on the wife's bike has held up well for 7.5k on them. So next I'd like to go with the Metzler 880 if I can get them in the right sizes.

The Dunlop Elite are wearing fast, the ride & performance have a lot to desire. No more Dunflops for me.
 
Metzeler is top shelf and as good as any tire on the market and IMHO from years of riding power bikes better than many including Michelin.
I ran them on my CBR 1000 and CBR1100XX without issue for may years.
You can ride with confidence on those tires.
 
Metzeler are top of the line in motorcycle tires. Michelins are living on thier name in the tire bussiness to carry them thru in the motorcycle market. Metzeler and Dunlop have been in the motorcycle tire bussiness alot longer than Michelin or Bridgestone has. There is nothing cheap or second rate about them. Now, Cheng shin, Kenda and Avon, that may be for someone trying to save a few bucks.
 
I haven't tried the Metzeler radials, but the ME-1/ME-33 Comp Ks were among the best bias-ply tires I ever rode on.
 
These are Metzeler Sportec tires. Thanks for replying.

A man at a cycle shop told me to be careful with them because they can slip out from under you if you lean them over too much if they aren't warmed up a little first.
 
Have had nothing but Metzeler on my BMW since new. Over the twenty years I have had them, I usually use a new set every 4 or 5 years. Each generation is better in every respect. The 20 year old Beemer has never handled or stopped better than it does now. No motorcycle tire gives full traction when cold, not even race slicks.
 
Originally Posted By: Lurch
A man at a cycle shop told me to be careful with them because they can slip out from under you if you lean them over too much if they aren't warmed up a little first.

That's normal for any sporty/high perf tire.
 
I think he may have confused Metzeler with ChengShin.

ChengShin has a tire line that is a knockoff of the ME-33 Laser and I think the ME-88.

Having had both the Metzelers and the ChengShins, I can say with all confidence, just giving it the same tread pattern does not make it the same tire.

The Metzelers were very good in all conditions. The Cheng Shin ME-33 Laser knockoff front and Barracuda rear would go from too cold in the first corner to too hot and greasy in the second corner. Wet weather was an adventure. In a straight line the Cheng Shins were almost acceptable but do not try to change directions without flat-track racing experience.
 
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: Lurch
A man at a cycle shop told me to be careful with them because they can slip out from under you if you lean them over too much if they aren't warmed up a little first.

That's normal for any sporty/high perf tire.


The man that told me that is a retired cycle racer. I don't think he was referring to general road riding.
 
Originally Posted By: Lurch
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: Lurch
A man at a cycle shop told me to be careful with them because they can slip out from under you if you lean them over too much if they aren't warmed up a little first.

That's normal for any sporty/high perf tire.


The man that told me that is a retired cycle racer. I don't think he was referring to general road riding.

I've got a Bridgestone Exedra tire on the back of my Vulcan. It is not a high perf tire by any means, yet, even on this tire, I can notice more grip once the tire is warmed up, after say 15-20 mins of riding. But if I try to rapidly accelerate out of a sharp turn straight out of my garage, I can slip it rather easily.

Every motorcycle book will tell you this - take it easy until the tires had a chance to warm up, racing or general road riding alike. And the more performance-oriented the tire, the more important this becomes.
 
This could well be a whole different thing, but for GoldWing GL1800 use, Metzeler seems to be the most prone tire to delam and bubble. Some GL18 riders do report them as their fovorite; but the consensus is that the Bridgestone is the best all around, followed by Avon Cobra, then Metzeler, then the two Dunslips or Dunflops as the poorest (E-3 and 250). I prefer the Avon Cobra.

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said the Metzeler tires on my bike are "inexpensive tires".
Show me where to buy Metzelers inexpensively. I'll buy a set today. My Metzeler Tourances are working very well.

Racing motorcycles use electric tire warmers before their race. Warming the tire is always important for best traction.
 
Nothing particularly cheap about Metzeler. Did you get a really good deal on them or something? Michelins generally cost more than any competing tire, so maybe that is where he was coming from?
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I would never compare Avon to Cheng Shin or any of those other Chinese rim protectors, either.

There are a lot of "uninformed" motorcyclists out there, too. You'll encounter them from time to time and they can be pretty entertaining.
 
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete


I've got a Bridgestone Exedra tire on the back of my Vulcan. It is not a high perf tire by any means, yet, even on this tire, I can notice more grip once the tire is warmed up, after say 15-20 mins of riding. But if I try to rapidly accelerate out of a sharp turn straight out of my garage, I can slip it rather easily.

Every motorcycle book will tell you this - take it easy until the tires had a chance to warm up, racing or general road riding alike. And the more performance-oriented the tire, the more important this becomes.


In over 40 years of riding, I don't think I ever had tires slide out from under me. I may have instinctively not tried leaning it over too much right out of the garage.
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Originally Posted By: WANG
Nothing particularly cheap about Metzeler. Did you get a really good deal on them or something? Michelins generally cost more than any competing tire, so maybe that is where he was coming from?
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I would never compare Avon to Cheng Shin or any of those other Chinese rim protectors, either.

There are a lot of "uninformed" motorcyclists out there, too. You'll encounter them from time to time and they can be pretty entertaining.



The Metzelers were on my bike when I bought it last May 1.

This guy is uninformed. He manages 2 or 3 quick oil change businesses, and took his bike in to a cycle shop and just told them the type of riding he does and let them put on the tire they thought would be best, so they put on a new Michelin. He also got a new $120 chain installed that looked like it had gold plated sides or something.
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I probably would have gotten a less expensive chain that that. The guy doesn't skimp on anything for his bike.
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The only thing that I can add to this thread is that to the best of my knowledge, Metzler only makes motorcycle tires.

All of the others manufacture car tires and other products. I don't know if this means anything to you, just sayin'.
 
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