maxlife atf

[antiqueshell]

Originally Posted By: sayjac


And then there's one poster that consistently posts unproven speculation(s) of what might happen by using MaxLife because it's a full synthetic fluid.


Unproven but you CANNOT rule out the possibilities.

With the extra cleaners and friction modifiers compared to a dino product older seals could be compromised.

I'm making an observation based on common knowledge, I'm not saying that it will cause this issue, but it still is a possibility.

I noticed that no one seems to want to address why Valvoline/Ashland suddenly ceased communication with the OP after he sent in the fluid analysis....

 

[Sayjac]

Good that you recognized yourself. And your "common knowledge" is yours alone. And not backed up the real world experience of the members here.

And whenever I read the unproven synthetic speculation including viscosity difference I point to Mola's thread (linked below) regarding the Improvements in Dex VI over Dex III and why a lower starting viscosity is possible. Same goes for your unproven seal speculation. So I'll go with my real world experience and keep your speculations regarding ML as just that.

Improvements in Dex VI over Dex III

 

[dave1251]

Originally Posted By: antiqueshell
Originally Posted By: dave1251
Originally Posted By: antiqueshell
I'm starting to think that this thread is loaded with
Ashland stealth marketing jockies

I have a honest question. How are you able to function with everything in this world being a conspiracy in your believe? I can only imagine this would cause a person to lead a very unhappy unfruitful life? How can you do it?


Because often times many scenarios ARE in fact conspiracies.
I'm in good company too because Thomas Jefferson agreed.

I find facing the stark realities in life "invigorating".
Don't you?

I live for the truth, it makes unpleasant realities easier to deal with. Adding a dash of justice doesn't hurt either.

If this train of thought is invigorating to you. Then good for you and my the Lord bless you.

 

[Garak]

Originally Posted By: antiqueshell
Because often times many scenarios ARE in fact conspiracies. I'm in good company too because Thomas Jefferson agreed.

Don't ascribe to conspiracy what can be explained by incompetence. If Ashland were at fault in this situation, I doubt that they conspired to blow up Oil Changer's transmission. Selling a faulty product or recommending it where it shouldn't be - that I'd believe. But, I wouldn't believe much beyond that.

 

[turtlevette]

Originally Posted By: Oil Changer
The cause of my transmission failure was what? Were you there? Did you do a teardown and inspection? So how do you know how my transmission failed?


I've been here only a few months and I'm sick of hearing about your transmission. You should have put some Lucas trans fix in instead of paying 2k for a rebuild you probably didn't need.

One big thing that can go wrong is if you get 2 O ring washers from the filter in the filter hole the trans pump can eat one to them.

I think it might be the guy who changed the filter shot himself in the foot.

That's my theory.

 

[antiqueshell]

Originally Posted By: Garak
Originally Posted By: antiqueshell
Because often times many scenarios ARE in fact conspiracies. I'm in good company too because Thomas Jefferson agreed.

Don't ascribe to conspiracy what can be explained by incompetence. If Ashland were at fault in this situation, I doubt that they conspired to blow up Oil Changer's transmission. Selling a faulty product or recommending it where it shouldn't be - that I'd believe. But, I wouldn't believe much beyond that.


Of course not, we are not talking about this specific incident here, dave was asking about things in general.

I agree that this was an honest accident by Ashland and that 99.8% of the time the product is very good. It still doesn't mean that the company shouldn't stand behind its quality and compensate
OilChanger in some way to make him whole.

 

[MolaKule]

Quote:


Unproven but you CANNOT rule out the possibilities.



I am not saying I am or am not Spiderman, but have you ever seen Spiderman and me in the same room?

 

[turtlevette]

Another thing. If an auto is hanging up between gears, get your foot out of it instantly.

Of course you'll burn it up if you don't. You probably had plunger temporarily sticking due to a varnish issue and a non fatal event became fatal because of the operator.

You could have cracked the filter pickup tube during installation. You could have forgotten the O ring. Did you under fill or over fill? A hundred things could have happened.

 

[Oil Changer]

You've seem to have made quite the splash here yourself.

Originally Posted By: turtlevette
I've been here only a few months and I'm sick of hearing about your transmission.

 

[jhellwig]

Originally Posted By: Oil Changer
The cause of my transmission failure was what? Were you there? Did you do a teardown and inspection? So how do you know how my transmission failed?

Originally Posted By: jhellwig
Someone posted a failure in the photo section of the exact same type of transmission as yours with the exact same failure munis the max life.


I am sorry I forgot that if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it is a banana.

Btw you have never said what the failure was.

 

[Nate1979]

Maxlife does not contain zinc as proven by PQIA. If you have another source showing zinc in maxlife please post a link.

 

[antiqueshell]

If this was a small claims court case, the Judge would ask for the oil analysis and then compare what Ashland stated what was in their fluid and compare to that sample the sample was filled with zinc which Valvoline says is NOT in their MaxLife ATF. Oil Changer would provide the communications that Ashland had with him and it would be duly noted that immediately following the revelation of that zinc being found in the fluid all communication from the company ceased with O C. That indicates that the company feared a lawsuit.



Judgment for the plaintiff.

 

[Oil Changer]

Why don't you tell me? You speak as though you were there.

Originally Posted By: jhellwig
I am sorry I forgot that if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it is a banana.

Btw you have never said what the failure was.

 

[Oil Changer]

MaxJunk most certainly does and I'm sure you know how to type PQIA in a Google search box.

Originally Posted By: Nate1979
Maxlife does not contain zinc as proven by PQIA. If you have another source showing zinc in maxlife please post a link.

 

[Clevy]

Originally Posted By: Oil Changer
You've seem to have made quite the splash here yourself.

Originally Posted By: turtlevette
I've been here only a few months and I'm sick of hearing about your transmission.



Ha.
That's 2 homers in the same game.

What's this batter got next for the fans.


Awesome


K. I haven't seen nor do I know what happened to oil changers tranny however the fact that Ashland clammed up is very interesting and very possibly very telling.
One can assume only one thing based on the fact that once Ashland got a sample then hit the ignore button.

Now who's to say the previous owner didn't add something with zinc or to be honest who knows what happened prior to oil changers ownership but the fact remains that Ashland quit talking once they got a sample of his fluid.
Very interesting indeed

 

[jhellwig]

http://www.pqiamerica.com/ATFdecember2012/valvolinemaxATF.htm

An argument with facts gives it validity.

 

[Nate1979]

Thanks for the link. That is less than 1ppm and likely below detection limits.
3^-e = 0.05ppm! Extremely low.

Edit - sorry just realized the e refers to a note that says the first analysis gave value of 44ppm which was a lab error and actual value was 3ppm.

 

[jhellwig]

The average was 7.

 

[Oil Changer]

I drove the van new off the dealer lot myself and I don't use additives. After PQIA's timely test and me presenting that information, communication stopped. That's what set me off. Valvoline can kiss my [censored].

Originally Posted By: Clevy
Now who's to say the previous owner didn't add something with zinc or to be honest who knows what happened prior to oil changers ownership but the fact remains that Ashland quit talking once they got a sample of his fluid. Very interesting indeed

 

[Oil Changer]

Apology accepted.

Originally Posted By: Nate1979
Thanks for the link. That is less than 1ppm and likely below detection limits.
3^-e = 0.05ppm! Extremely low.

Edit - sorry just realized the e refers to a note that says the first analysis gave value of 44ppm which was a lab error and actual value was 3ppm.