Massive Rogue Telecom Threat Uncovered by the Secret Service in NYC

So many experts on here. I'm so privileged.
Some of us worked in the cellular network industry.

About security: you don't need a foreign country to get into security issue. We can do that locally with criminals. We can flood our whatever it is if they are not setup correctly, and we will get in trouble because of cheap carriers not setup their network and oversold bandwidth.

You would be stupid to let your critical network be hooked into the public domain. Most critical network are completely off grid for virus and bit locker ransom ware risk already. Most of those machines also do not accept USB or whatever connection as well if you want them to be secure (because that's how Iran's centrifuge got destroyed what "someone" inject 4 zero day exploits to screw up their control loop, and hide their tracks until Eastern Europeans found it later).

About foreign infiltration risk: deal with it, we are going to see them from foreigners trying to get in just like they are going to see us trying to get into theirs. This is the nature of national security among nations. This is like how we lock our houses door and our cars instead of just let anyone get in and out. This is the nature of things and this is how we are going to go into the future between nations, between companies, between people even within the families (with facial recognition instead of telling each other our passwords). Nothing new here, we will do our best to lock up just like they will do their best to lock up.
 
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https://www.theregister.com/2021/02/12/supermicro_bloomberg_spying/

"the 2010 discovery by the Defense Department that thousands of its computers were sending military network data to China due to code hidden in chips that handle the server startup process; Intel's discovery in 2014 that a Chinese hacking group penetrated its network via a server that fetched malware from an unidentified supplier's update site; and a 2015 warning issued by the FBI to multiple companies that Chinese agents had hidden an extra chip with backdoored code on one manufacturer's servers."

I have talked about that SuperMicro spy chip nonsense back in 2010. If you want to look it up please feel free. Basically it is one of those Bloomberg cook the book speculation for stock market pump and dump. Super Micro almost went out of business and HP / Dell took most of them afterward. Bloomberg was probably the #1 media in doing this kind of shady pump and dump rumor talk, even now.

After 15 years we have proven that it is impossible technologically, and found nothing. Super Micro is still used as a white box server in most things and now power AI servers better than anyone else.

I do know one guy who used to work in SuperMicro at the time, he said it was a stupid rumor that people believe in what they want to believe in, and the only problem they had in the company was not technical but rather family members were not very good at financial discipline, and accounting problems because of that.
 
Cellular networks have a priority hexarchy called QoS - so that in high volume or emergencies only certain entities - like first responders, etc. get access. They have enabled this here when power was out in the region due to hurricane and only limited towers running on backups were available. So there not taking the network down with this.

Second even if they could the network carriers would figure it out pretty quick - because they have their own security measures.

And of course all cell phones these days do wifi calling, so they would need to take out the backbone to end comms - not just cellular.

As many here have already said - its likely a bot farm.
 
Cellular networks have a priority hexarchy called QoS - so that in high volume or emergencies only certain entities - like first responders, etc. get access. They have enabled this here when power was out in the region due to hurricane and only limited towers running on backups were available. So there not taking the network down with this.

Second even if they could the network carriers would figure it out pretty quick - because they have their own security measures.

And of course all cell phones these days do wifi calling, so they would need to take out the backbone to end comms - not just cellular.

As many here have already said - its likely a bot farm.
Also ever since VoLTE the amount of bandwidth for a call is much much lower than 3G, and you would not overwhelm a network by making just voice call. It is much easier to buy the best bandwidth and watch 4K movies on it instead. Last time I check they are happy to let you pay and watch 4K movies, instead of calling it national security risk.
 


As many here have already said - it’s likely a bot farm.
I don’t think many people know what a bot farm is, but I already posted it. From the tone of your post I’m not sure you do either.
You’re pretty much confirming though you may not know it that the Secret Service is pretty much saying the same thing, though they referred to it as a sim farm

Post in thread 'Massive Rogue Telecom Threat Uncovered by the Secret Service in NYC'
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/t...the-secret-service-in-nyc.399925/post-7372713
 
Thing is, the Cartel has been doing their own network to get around the official telco network for a long time. This sim farm seems to be just a physical VPN that interconnect between hops so they are not really traceable from one end to another. I am not sure what other benefits you can make out of it since you can use cell tower to quickly find out where the cell phones' location is (like how E911 works). You have to really hide it among a huge crowd to really blend in if you have 300 of them activated in the same place and not having to run cables too far apart. This sort of explains why they are in NYC, to blend in. It is also so cheap relatively speaking pretty much anyone with the will can build one easily.

However, unless they are just going to run this for a quick short term and then abandon it, or keep this whole thing roaming around the city to avoid being detected, it is not going to last long before they are caught. They would have to switch from cell to another network (like some walkie talkie network over the air miles away not using a public network) and route elsewhere to avoid detection.
 
I don’t think many people know what a bot farm is, but I already posted it. From the tone of your post I’m not sure you do either.
You’re pretty much confirming though you may not know it that the Secret Service is pretty much saying the same thing, though they referred to it as a sim farm

Post in thread 'Massive Rogue Telecom Threat Uncovered by the Secret Service in NYC'
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/t...the-secret-service-in-nyc.399925/post-7372713
No, the lamestream media and you as their proxy are hyping this as some huge threat. Its not a huge threat people need to worry about. Yes we have many agencies that protect us - and they get paid to do so. Its part of living in a free society with free speech, our enemy can use it against us and do - often.

I don’t think many people know what a bot farm is, but I already posted it. From the tone of your post I’m not sure you do either.
LOL. How so? I am pretty sure I do.

Wow, threat to cripple New York City cell service undercover by our Secret Service.

Since you’re such an cyber security expert - please explain to me how a "sim" farm -could cripple NYC?
 
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Since you’re such an cyber security expert - please explain to me how a "sim" farm -could cripple NYC?

Oh come on, you’re just some internet rando, what credentials do you even have to question anything in your life?

Remember the New Jersey “drones”? What about that Chinese spy ballon that flew across America? How many tonnes of drugs did FBI smuggle from South America again? Where are those weapons of “mass distraction” again? What about all these violent criminals being constantly released in NYC?
It’s all been taken care of, that’s all we need to know, (especially you and me, and people like us😉)

The people that get paid by our tax dollars are doing a fantastic job, fantastic I tell you, protecting you and me, so stop asking these silly questions.

And if you don’t believe me, ask that Ukrainian girl from the bus, she’ll tell you how safe we’re all are.
 
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Oh come on, you’re just some internet rando, what credentials do you even have to question anything in your life?

Remember the New Jersey “drones”? What about that Chinese spy ballon that flew across America? How many tones of drugs did FBI smuggle from South America again? Where are those weapons of “mass distraction” again? What about all these violent criminals being constantly released in NYC?
It’s all been taken care of, that’s all we need to know, (especially you and me, and people like us😉)

The people that get paid by our tax dollars are doing a fantastic job, fantastic I tell you, protecting you and me, so stop asking these silly questions.

And if you don’t believe me, ask that Ukrainian girl from the bus, she’ll tell you how safe we’re all are.
While that is likely all true, I don't even need to go there. I can't think of any way you can bring down a managed network by adding too many nodes or too much traffic. Thats the whole point of "managed" network.
 
No, the lamestream media and you as their proxy are hyping this as some huge threat. Its not a huge threat people need to worry about. Yes we have many agencies that protect us - and they get paid to do so. Its part of living in a free society with free speech, our enemy can use it against us and do - often.


LOL. How so? I am pretty sure I do.



Since you’re such an cyber security expert - please explain to me how a "sim" farm -could cripple NYC?
I believe you over the Secret Service 🤣 Sorry but you don't have the qualifications nor involved with the investigation.

I am the "proxy" of lamestream media? Please know what you are talking about before making insinuations. Something lacking in your posts.
The Secret Service statement in is post #1 I am sure you can read it.
It starts with this "U.S. Secret Service dismantles imminent telecommunications threat in New York tristate area"

I guess this is just another thread to close, a select few lacking the ability to have a discussion based on the information given by one of our security agencies.
 
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I have talked about that SuperMicro spy chip nonsense back in 2010. If you want to look it up please feel free. Basically it is one of those Bloomberg cook the book speculation for stock market pump and dump. Super Micro almost went out of business and HP / Dell took most of them afterward. Bloomberg was probably the #1 media in doing this kind of shady pump and dump rumor talk, even now.

After 15 years we have proven that it is impossible technologically, and found nothing. Super Micro is still used as a white box server in most things and now power AI servers better than anyone else.

I do know one guy who used to work in SuperMicro at the time, he said it was a stupid rumor that people believe in what they want to believe in, and the only problem they had in the company was not technical but rather family members were not very good at financial discipline, and accounting problems because of that.

Looks like the company can't catch a break! In ArsTechnica today:

https://arstechnica.com/security/20...rds-can-be-infected-with-unremovable-malware/
 
UPDATE: The sites were used by SWATTERS. .
Interesting thought. You know based on the Secret Service link in post #1 that very well could be something in part of the statement. Though the report is very short from the Secret Service the first paragraph could infer something like you are posting. Yeah, if you had a link it would help (update, I think something similar is in the Secret Service Video in that ink)

But here is a statement from them "The U.S. Secret Service dismantled a network of electronic devices located throughout the New York tristate area that were used to conduct multiple telecommunications-related threats directed towards senior U.S. government officials, which represented an imminent threat to the agency’s protective operations."

I believe part of the reason to start the investigation was the fear of stretching the protective services that the secret service provides with so many false threats, of which none were real. From what I understand and I cant remember the source, maybe it's in the video of the Secret Service link I provided in post #1. I believe what they found however is something far more capable was contained in the statement and video.

Looking up the definition you would think that maybe it could be inferred as swatting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatting
 
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