Marijuana on the left coast

[ZeeOSix]

^^^ Yes, major lack of sleep and driving (or doing anything that requires concentration) is very dangerous and also considered impairment. People fall asleep at the wheel, or zone out to near zero focus on the driving task quite often and sometimes the outcome isn't too good.

In the workplace we use to run continuous 24/7 testing sessions on multi-million dollar hardware for months on end and people were limited to 12 hr shifts max if required, but most worked 8 hrs shifts so they could get some decent rest. Last thing we wanted is someone to make a major mistake and destroy a one of a kind piece of hardware.

IMO, texting or playing around with a cell phone while driving is also impairment (meaning "to diminish in function"). Even though more and more laws keep coming out against it, people just can't put down the phones. Add some weed or alcohol to that and watch out.

 

[bbhero]

And speed differential is a BIG cause of accidents on interstate style highways... Just what we need.. Cheech and Chong driving 45 mph in a 70 mph zone where most are driving 74 mph... Let the wrecks begin.

Add people playing or sending and reading messages on their dumb phones and this is a great combination.

I am not against mj at all though... The isolated chemicals can be very helpful for many people. And it is stupid that mj is classified as a schedule I. Aka same as heroin. Makes no sense at all.

 

[grampi]

Originally Posted By: exranger06
Originally Posted By: InhalingBullets
Let me propose this question to those of you that are on board with legalization: How would you feel about your police officers, firemen, EMT's, doctors, nurses or teachers being daily users of weed?

I'm perfectly fine with all of those people being daily users of weed. Many of them are already daily users of alcohol. How is that any different? I wouldn't want them to be stoned while at work, but again, that's the same as being drunk on the job. After hours, they can do whatever they want.


Exactly!

 

[Malo83]

Waiting for retirement to get my medical card, wifes nephew grows medical marijuana,

 

[PeterPolyol]

Originally Posted By: Shannow

Impairment is a lot more common that we, as an industrialised society is a lot more common than we would like to believe.


A real danger and there are laws against being unrested too. Watch out for all those "tired driving" road traps!!

 

[BlueOvalFitter]

When I used to run a fab shop in FL. I had a welder that was kind of spaced out at times, and smelled like weed very badly. One day I finally caught him smoking on the job and got the greatest pleasure FIRING HIM for that!
JUST SAY NO!

 

[surfstar]

No different than alcohol and tobacco. Not far off from coffee even. Except that it has medicinal benefits for some ailments.

Regulate it, tax it, reap the benefits vs the underground economy and drug trade. Legalize it all and take away the funding for many cartels.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Not far off from coffee ... ?

Coffee doesn't twist up someone's perception.

 

[BlueOvalFitter]

Originally Posted By: surfstar
No different than alcohol and tobacco. Not far off from coffee even. Except that it has medicinal benefits for some ailments.

Regulate it, tax it, reap the benefits vs the underground economy and drug trade. Legalize it all and take away the funding for many cartels.

I won't touch alcohol & tobacco, but coffee, maybe 2 cups a day. Sometimes I go days without drinking coffee. The only other liquids I drink are, A LOT of water, a little bit of milk, and orange juice every now and again.

 

[grampi]

Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Not far off from coffee ... ?

Coffee doesn't twist up someone's perception.


Neither does weed...

 

[ZeeOSix]

Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Not far off from coffee ... ?

Coffee doesn't twist up someone's perception.

Neither does weed...


Maybe not to a long time weed addict.

But yes, it does twist up perception ... especially the super strong weed of today. Anyone who thinks weed doesn't change someone's perception is probably stoned every waking minute of their life - LOL.

 

[SteveSRT8]

There's nothing sillier than someone trying to imagine someone else's perception.

The effects of THC are extremely individual and are not simply definable.

Then there are the innumerable variations in all the different varieties, hybrids, extracts, isolates, etc. CBD, CBN, terpenes, etc. can all have an effect, that is not in dispute. But the actual effect on an individual can vary wildly...

 

[ZeeOSix]

If weed didn't alter people's perception, then there wouldn't be laws against using it and driving while stoned. The majority of people will have altered perception smoking the strong weed of today. Stay home and space out, don't do it behind the wheel.

 

[SteveSRT8]

Sorry to disagree, but laws are not always created with such benevolent purpose. Might be worth noting that MJ has been classified for decades in the same way that HEROIN is!

Yeah, they're the same alright...

 

[Shannow]

Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
If weed didn't alter people's perception, then there wouldn't be laws against using it and driving while stoned. The majority of people will have altered perception smoking the strong weed of today. Stay home and space out, don't do it behind the wheel.


Two different issues...one is the prohibition of it...that's political.

The driving while not impaired is just plain common sense.

They aren't one and the same law/issue.

 

[grampi]

Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Not far off from coffee ... ?

Coffee doesn't twist up someone's perception.

Neither does weed...


Maybe not to a long time weed addict.

But yes, it does twist up perception ... especially the super strong weed of today. Anyone who thinks weed doesn't change someone's perception is probably stoned every waking minute of their life - LOL.


People who think it changes perception never smoke it...

 

[Shannow]

Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Not far off from coffee ... ?

Coffee doesn't twist up someone's perception.

 

[PimTac]

Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Not far off from coffee ... ?

Coffee doesn't twist up someone's perception.

Neither does weed...


Maybe not to a long time weed addict.

But yes, it does twist up perception ... especially the super strong weed of today. Anyone who thinks weed doesn't change someone's perception is probably stoned every waking minute of their life - LOL.


People who think it changes perception never smoke it...




How would you know personally?

Btw, WA state regularly sets up DUI checkpoints that do include impairment by any substance. Probably being done in other states as well.

 

[grampi]

Originally Posted By: PimTac
How would you know personally?

Btw, WA state regularly sets up DUI checkpoints that do include impairment by any substance. Probably being done in other states as well.


Because I smoke it and it doesn't change my perception...

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: PimTac
How would you know personally?

Btw, WA state regularly sets up DUI checkpoints that do include impairment by any substance. Probably being done in other states as well.


Because I smoke it and it doesn't change my perception...


I'm quite sure there are plenty of people who have tried it on here, but are not full-time users that would disagree with you.

Like with an alcoholic, many of which are entirely functional, the line between stoned and non (or drunk and non) becomes so blurred that any perception you did have of the difference between states basically disappears. Being chemically impaired is being chemically impaired, even if you don't recognize it anymore due to use conditioning.

Now, what Steve touched on earlier where application takes place with no THC in the product, that's entirely different. It's like non-alcoholic beer.