M1 European Form 0w40/ M1 EP 5w30

[Purpfox]

Fresh Voa of Mobil1 fs European formula.

Code
Sample Date 1/22/2019

Sample # 40376

Lab #

Analyst

Unique ID 40376

Wear Status 0

Cont Status 0

Chem Status 0

Unit Usage

Oil Usage

Oil Added

Aluminum 1.78

Antimony 0

Barium 0

Boron 277.25

Cadmium 0.26

Calcium 3,018

Chromium 0

Copper 0.04

Iron 1.3

Lead 0

Magnesium 23.12

Molybdenum 89.5

Nickel 0

Phosphorus 893.6

Potassium 2.03

Silicon 5.96

Silver 0.04

Sodium 3.58

Tin 0.36

Vanadium 2.1

Zinc 1,181

Manganese 0

Titanium 0

Add Depletion 95

Ferrous Idx

AntiOx Deplete

Antiwear Comp

Free Water

MxD Ct >20 4

MxD Ct >25 1

MxD Ct >50 0

MxD Sl >20 1

MxD Sl >25 0

MxD Sl >50 0

MxD Ft >20 11

MxD Ft >25 0

MxD Ft >50 0

MxD Ox >20 10

MxD Ox >25 3

Cnts >4 9,442

Cnts >6 2,127

Cnts >10 491

Cnts >14 160

Cnts >18 9

Cnts >22 2

Cnts >26 1

Cnts >32 0

Cnts >38 0

Cnts >56 0

Cnts >70 0

ISO >4 20

ISO >6 18

ISO >14 14

Glycol Vol 0

IR Oxidation 11.53

IR Soot

IR Nitration 4.95

IR Water

IR Hcarbs

IR Glycol

IR Anti-Wear

IR Sulfation 34.27

Visc 40C 70.7

Visc 100C 13

Visc Idx 186

MxD Ox >50 1

Total Acid

Total Base 12.61

Foam Tend 1

Specific Gravity

Solids Vol

MxD Ot >20 1

WDA Severity

Ferro Large

Ferro Small

Fuel Vol

PC Vol < 6u 0.44

PC Vol 6-14u 0.66

PC Vol >14u 0.34

Soot LEM/TGA 0

Soot Vol

MxD Ot >25 0

PPM Water 247

MxD Ot >50 0

Total Fe 0

Total Non Fe

Fe >21

Fe >25 0

Fe >50 0

Fe >100 0

Fe >38 0

Fe >70


Mobil 1 Extended Performance 5w30
Code
Sample Date 1/15/2019

Sample # 40349

Lab #

Analyst

Unique ID 40349

Wear Status 0

Cont Status 0

Chem Status 0

Unit Usage

Oil Usage

Oil Added

Aluminum 1

Antimony 1.97

Barium 0

Boron 93.01

Cadmium 0.05

Calcium 1,067

Chromium 0.03

Copper 0.02

Iron 0.8

Lead 0

Magnesium 570.33

Molybdenum 85.8

Nickel 0

Phosphorus 678.73

Potassium 0.9

Silicon 3.92

Silver 0.04

Sodium 6.87

Tin 2.4

Vanadium 2.15

Zinc 913.81

Manganese 0.07

Titanium 0.28

Add Depletion 99

Ferrous Idx

AntiOx Deplete

Antiwear Comp

Free Water

MxD Ct >20 2

MxD Ct >25 1

MxD Ct >50 0

MxD Sl >20 6

MxD Sl >25 4

MxD Sl >50 0

MxD Ft >20 4

MxD Ft >25 3

MxD Ft >50 0

MxD Ox >20 8

MxD Ox >25 8

Cnts >4 1,094

Cnts >6 250

Cnts >10 75

Cnts >14 33

Cnts >18 15

Cnts >22 11

Cnts >26 9

Cnts >32 5

Cnts >38 2

Cnts >56 1

Cnts >70 0.7

ISO >4 17

ISO >6 15

ISO >14 12

Glycol Vol 0

IR Fuel

IR Oxidation 7.42

IR Soot

IR Nitration 1.26

IR Water

IR Hcarbs

IR Glycol

IR Anti-Wear

IR Sulfation 14.17

Visc 40C 61.3

Visc 100C 10.9

Visc Idx

MxD Ox >50 2

Total Acid

Total Base 8.26

Foam Tend 1

Specific Gravity

Solids Vol

MxD Ot >20 2

WDA Severity

Ferro Large

Ferro Small

Fuel Vol

PC Vol < 6u 0.05

PC Vol 6-14u 0.08

PC Vol >14u 0.38

Soot LEM/TGA 0

Soot Vol

MxD Ot >25 2

PPM Water 0

MxD Ot >50 1

Total Fe 0

Total Non Fe

Fe >21

Fe >25 0

Fe >50 0

Fe >100 0

Fe >38 0

Fe >70

 

[Snagglefoot]

Thanks for the post, especially if you paid for it. Just by coincidence I took these photos last night. Notice how small the "FS" is printed on the front.

 

[Purpfox]

I was fortunate with the EP 5w30 as a friend just got some for his truck. I'm currently running the 0w40 in my ecoboost, but there is a newer formula that meets gm dexos2.

 

[Purpfox]

double post

 

[krismoriah72]

Why is there so much water in the European formula?

 

[Snagglefoot]

Originally Posted by krismoriah72
Why is there so much water in the European formula?


The lab tech spit in it. Another Castrol fan.

 

[Purpfox]

I'm in Houston, lol.

I'm not too concerned with less than 500 ppm. Im using a FTIR for the water so its also not as accurate for water unless your baseline is an exact match.
The container i pulled from was opened a few days before i pulled the sample.

 

[kschachn]

Wouldn't you use KF titration for water? Or is that not done any more?

 

[Purpfox]

Normaly you would but, this is an in house lab and we don't have a kf

 

[Lolvoguy]

Originally Posted by Snagglefoot
Thanks for the post, especially if you paid for it. Just by coincidence I took these photos last night. Notice how small the "FS" is printed on the front.


what does the fs indicate?

 

[Purpfox]

Full synthetic

 

[kschachn]

How do you know this? As far as I know ExxonMobil has never stated the meaning. Considering they don't put "FS" on any of their other full synthetic oils, one might guess it means Full SAPS to distinguish it from their ESP product (which is also full synthetic but doesn't have FS on the label.)

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

Originally Posted by Lolvoguy
Originally Posted by Snagglefoot
Thanks for the post, especially if you paid for it. Just by coincidence I took these photos last night. Notice how small the "FS" is printed on the front.


what does the fs indicate?

Full Saps

 

[Purpfox]

I'll see if i can get my Mobil engineer to shed light on this.

 

[Virtus_Probi]

Full SAPS would make sense as that 0W40 has SAPS out the wazoo!
I'm sure the "thick and stout" fans on here are drooling over the FS...I like the way the 5W30 is built, as much as can be told from this VOA.

 

[slo town]

What exactly does the "Mobil 1 FS0W-40 is recommended by Imperial Oil in applications requiring VW 503.01" mean?

From the Imperial Oil website it says "In addition to Imperial's industrial and wholesale businesses, our retail brands, Esso and Mobil, are familiar fixtures across Canada." This makes it sound like Imperial Oil owns Exxon/Mobil.

Scott

 

[Purpfox]

I need to see if i can find any of the 0w40 esp. I bet the calcium is much lower.

As for the thickys, On normal aspirated nah, no need. but turbos, yes please. something i noticed on the old Mazdaspeed was less oil blowby in the turbos when running a 40 vs the 30

also I've been hunting something with a littel higher TBN for extended OCI. Id like to run 10k or better, without having the tbn drop below 1

 

[Snagglefoot]

Originally Posted by SLO_Town
What exactly does the "Mobil 1 FS0W-40 is recommended by Imperial Oil in applications requiring VW 503.01" mean?

From the Imperial Oil website it says "In addition to Imperial's industrial and wholesale businesses, our retail brands, Esso and Mobil, are familiar fixtures across Canada." This makes it sound like Imperial Oil owns Exxon/Mobil.

Scott


Simple. Imperial Oil owns those stations and Exxon Mobil owns 70 % of the shares in Imperial Oil which are publicly traded on the Toronto Stock Exchange. There is a marketing agreement between the two to use the brand name.
.
How many Esso stations are in the USA?

 

[Whimsey]

Originally Posted by Snagglefoot
Originally Posted by SLO_Town
What exactly does the "Mobil 1 FS0W-40 is recommended by Imperial Oil in applications requiring VW 503.01" mean?

From the Imperial Oil website it says "In addition to Imperial's industrial and wholesale businesses, our retail brands, Esso and Mobil, are familiar fixtures across Canada." This makes it sound like Imperial Oil owns Exxon/Mobil.

Scott


Simple. Imperial Oil owns those stations and Exxon Mobil owns 70 % of the shares in Imperial Oil which are publicly traded on the Toronto Stock Exchange. There is a marketing agreement between the two to use the brand name.
.
How many Esso stations are in the USA?





None, They changed the name decades ago to Exxon for some legal reasons I believe.

Whimsey

 

[Garak]

Originally Posted by SLO_Town
From the Imperial Oil website it says "In addition to Imperial's industrial and wholesale businesses, our retail brands, Esso and Mobil, are familiar fixtures across Canada." This makes it sound like Imperial Oil owns Exxon/Mobil.

Imperial Oil is "our" Exxon-Mobil. Exxon-Mobil itself has a majority stake in Imperial Oil, as already noted. Imperial Oil just handles the Canadian marketing and branding. Mobil itself has become a "familiar fixture" across Canada thanks to product rationalization, and Imperial Oil is correct to claim credit for that. When CJ-4 rolled out, all the Esso XD-3 HDEOs were gone, replaced with the Mobil equivalents. Much the same happened with the Esso PCMOs, but not quite as smoothly, with the SM rollout, with all of them gone by SN. Mobil also got more visibility here now as a gasoline retailer since they took over all the Loblaws grocery gas stations, branding them as Mobil, rather than choosing Esso.