LSJR blends up a custom oil in the lab

Read down and you'll see LSJ has the CLS certs also. It's probably a bit like passing the actuary exam. If you can pass it, it doesn't matter what you're background is, you're smart enough.
 
Well I certainly respect your opinion. In this case however where someone is formulating motor oils I’ll stand by my opinion that they need more than a marketing degree. Either that or you’re doing it with the assistance of multiple other individuals and they should be credited as in the paper you show above.

Perhaps he’s mostly a cheerleader for the other individuals and his function is to pull together their work and ideas. Being listed last on a paper would indicate that to me.
Last author is usually PI/senior author. Big cheese. Not sure how it works in your field, but in mine (and most of academics), that is the way it goes. Most credit on your CV goes to your first and last author papers.
 
Read down and you'll see LSJ has the CLS certs also. It's probably a bit like passing the actuary exam. If you can pass it, it doesn't matter what you're background is, you're smart enough.
Just like all the software developers/engineers, coders, and AI specialists today. Google/Amazon/Meta could not care less what your education is. If you can pass their pre-hire tests, then you're good enough to work for them.
 
All the knowledge in the world is useless if you can't put it into practice or pass it to someone who can. I pay more attention to those who can put it into practice. I don't care how much you know about a job. Can you do the job?
Which job? And how do you measure "to put it into practice"? Plenty of PhDs in chemistry working in the oil industry couldn’t formulate a motor oil if their careers depended on it—let alone perform a basic oil change. They focus on and research specific subjects, such as polymer characterization, etc., and their knowledge and research are "put into practice" every time a batch of motor oil is blended.
 
Just like all the software developers/engineers, coders, and AI specialists today. Google/Amazon/Meta could not care less what your education is. If you can pass their pre-hire tests, then you're good enough to work for them.
Which is far different than a supposed tribologist who formulates motor oil.

The more I learn about this guy the less inclined I am to worship at the altar of Lake.
 
Last author is usually PI/senior author. Big cheese. Not sure how it works in your field, but in mine (and most of academics), that is the way it goes. Most credit on your CV goes to your first and last author papers.
What? This makes no sense. The last name is generally the supervisor, manager or coordinator, not the principal. This is how it worked in my field when I was part of a large industrial research laboratory.

Which reinforces my opinion that Lake is not a primary technical contributor.
 
Which is far different than a supposed tribologist who formulates motor oil.

The more I learn about this guy the less inclined I am to worship at the altar of Lake.
What is LSJr actually doing that is beyond the scope of his certifications and requires someone with a actual engineering degree?
 
What is LSJr actually doing that is beyond the scope of his certifications and requires someone with an actual engineering degree?
I’d turn it around and ask if his limited, non-educational requirement certifications are sufficient for him to “blend up a custom oil in the lab”?

I once attended a course on metal forming because my boss couldn’t attend. Did that one course qualify me as some sort of fabricator? No it did not.
 
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I’d turn it around and ask if his limited, non-educational requirement certifications are sufficient for him to “blend up a custom oil in the lab”?

I once attended a course on metal forming because my boss couldn’t attend. Did that one course qualify me as some sort of fabricator? No it did not.


Food for thought:

Blending & formulation is the easy part. It’s like baking a cake, but just tweaking the ingredients to get the desired results. Having enough knowledge about the ingredients, can get you pretty close to the desired results quickly.

Developing the tests and the raw additives is the hard part. As, you’re making the ingredients. This is the Chem-E, Mech-E, chemistry background level, above a CLS.

Not saying the CLS is a trivial test, it’s not. It was actually pretty difficult ultimately. Mostly because the span of knowledge needed. But it also, has very little to do with motor oils and blending. Each is just one section of the test. The majority of the test is actually about industrial lubrication & failure types. As, that’s the historical context of the CLS - industrial lubricants for bearings and gearboxes.
 
It fascinates me we're on page 6 talking about a person who appears to be making a living doing what we're scrutinizing whether he's qualified to do or not. IMHO, why would groups of others seemingly qualified professionals include him in their vlogs, research papers, conferences, labs, etc, if they didn't think he added any value?
 
It fascinates me we're on page 6 talking about a person who appears to be making a living doing what we're scrutinizing whether he's qualified to do or not. IMHO, why would groups of others seemingly qualified professionals include him in their vlogs, research papers, conferences, labs, etc, if they didn't think he added any value?
I cannot speak for others. I'm only speaking for myself and my interpretation of what I'm seeing, filtered by my experience.

Sometimes you employ cheerleaders because they have promotional value. Not denying that.
 
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