Linux Mint 17?

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Originally Posted By: ClutchDisc
If you have a 64 bit computer go with the 64 bit. If you don't know, go with the 32 bit version. 32 bit can use up to 4 GB of RAM.


32 bit is safest; despite that 64 bit is the future. 64 bit applications also use more RAM so it might only be appropriate to use if you have a boatload of RAM and a fully 64 bit-capable system.

It should also be noted that some things like Skype and WINE are 32 bit only.
 
Originally Posted By: uc50ic4more
It should also be noted that some things like Skype and WINE are 32 bit only.

I don't use either. Nonetheless, I haven't had issues using the 64-bit kernels in Ubuntu or Mint as soon as I got a 64-bit machine.
 
I don't use Skype or WINE either; but there have been a few times I've had to install them for others. On 64 bit machines they both still work, they just pull down a tonne of 32 bit libraries along with the install. I had some trouble getting Skype to use the GTK theme once, but other than that the only real inconvenience is the massive size of the installations (read: accompanying libraries) for these applications.
 
Went to the Linux website and went to Chrome website and neither place shows me what the combination homepage/toolbars/menu-bars looks like in operation. Doesn't say if it stores favorites or bookmarks -- doesn't say if my Firefox bookmarks can be transferred......... absolutely nothing to say/show me, prior to a download and installation of their products.
 
What exactly do yo want to know? I use Linux every day so I might be able to answer some questions. Chrome looks basically the same on Linux. You can use the same sync account on chrome in linux too.
 
Originally Posted By: Triple_Se7en
Went to the Linux website and went to Chrome website and neither place shows me what the combination homepage/toolbars/menu-bars looks like in operation. Doesn't say if it stores favorites or bookmarks -- doesn't say if my Firefox bookmarks can be transferred......... absolutely nothing to say/show me, prior to a download and installation of their products.


The Linux web site?? There are hundreds of Linux-based OS's, with a handful being more popular than others. Did you mean the Linux Mint site? If so, they do not (can not) distribute Chrome with their OS directly because of licensing: You must download and install Chrome directly from Google (unless you'd like to use the entirely open-source Chromium, which *is* available directly from most Linux distribution's software repositories). You can always do a Google Images search for Chrome Linux Mint or Chrome Ubuntu, etc.

Chrome will look and work pretty much exactly the same on any OS because they use their own interface. Icons and fonts and so on will adhere, for the most part, to the themes of your OS. And it will import all of your Firefox data, including bookmarks, passwords, history, etc.

If you're on Windows presently and want to take a look at Chrome without installing it, you can get it from the portableapps.com web site and use it without installing anything. http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/google_chrome_portable
 
Originally Posted By: Triple_Se7en
Went to the Linux website and went to Chrome website and neither place shows me what the combination homepage/toolbars/menu-bars looks like in operation. Doesn't say if it stores favorites or bookmarks -- doesn't say if my Firefox bookmarks can be transferred......... absolutely nothing to say/show me, prior to a download and installation of their products.

if memory serves right, firefox saved the bookmarks in a file with the extension .json.
you can import that in a firefox under a linux distro. since i dual-boot Win and Mint, i just needed to mount the win partition that contained the saved .json file.
i didn't try it in chrome.
 
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32 bit can use up to 4 GB of RAM.


32 bit PAE kernel (linux of course) can address 64Gb RAM. This has been true for "a lot of years" like back when Pentium machines were running @ 800MHz.

PAE kernel used to be a separate kernel you had to load (replace) on Ubuntu; now it is the default kernel for 32 bit distro of Ubuntu.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
 
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Originally Posted By: uc50ic4more
32 bit is safest; despite that 64 bit is the future. 64 bit applications also use more RAM so it might only be appropriate to use if you have a boatload of RAM and a fully 64 bit-capable system.

It should also be noted that some things like Skype and WINE are 32 bit only.


32-bit could be advantageous for low memory machines (around 2 Gb or less). I think you can run 32-bit apps under 64-bit OS as long as the libraries the apps require are there.

If you have around 3GB or more memory I'd go with 64-bit; there are some speed advantages for some apps running in 64 bit.
 
Originally Posted By: simple_gifts

32 bit PAE kernel (linux of course) can address 64Gb RAM. This has been true for "a lot of years" like back when Pentium machines were running @ 800MHz.


Yup, 32 bit is about as capable. Only issue is performance hit when certain modern 64 bit instructions speed up code.


To change the topic, has anyone upgraded or done an install of the new Mint LTS?

I'm going to get around to it soon, but just wondering if it is safe to do a dist-upgrade over a clean install, and whether I should risk it now?

Does stuff typically not break? I want my apps like VirtualBox running as well (or better/more recent version) as they are running now?

Will installed apps like vbox be upgraded to mint 17 versions as well?


http://www.tecmint.com/upgrade-linux-mint-16-to-linux-mint-17/
 
Originally Posted By: ueberooo
I'm going to get around to it soon, but just wondering if it is safe to do a dist-upgrade over a clean install, and whether I should risk it now?

Does stuff typically not break? I want my apps like VirtualBox running as well (or better/more recent version) as they are running now?

Historically, my experience is that if something is going to break, it's not going to matter whether it's a fresh install or a dist-upgrade.
 
I've been running Mint 17 since the day the RC was released. Very good OS, really stable. It's the best version of Linux Mint I've used yet!
 
Originally Posted By: ClutchDisc
I've been running Mint 17 since the day the RC was released. Very good OS, really stable. It's the best version of Linux Mint I've used yet!


I'm happy with it! I was very happy when my niece gave me a tower with a faster chip than what I had. All I did was put my two HDD's into the tower and booted it, everything worked great. I told a buddy and he suggested changing a driver, he walked me through it and this machine is working very well.
 
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Originally Posted By: ClutchDisc
I've been running Mint 17 since the day the RC was released. Very good OS, really stable. It's the best version of Linux Mint I've used yet!


I'm happy with it! I was very happy when my niece gave me a tower with a faster chip than what I had. All I did was put my two HDD's into the tower and booted it, everything worked great. I told a buddy and he suggested changing a driver, he walked me through it and this machine is working very well.

That's really great! Did your 4 GB of RAM come yet? What are you doing with the old tower?
 
Originally Posted By: Garak
Historically, my experience is that if something is going to break, it's not going to matter whether it's a fresh install or a dist-upgrade.


Thanks! Excellent, dist-upgrade went smoothly and things seem to be going well with Qiana. (It seems faster and more responsive; who knows if that's just a placebo-like effect.)

Also got X-plane 10 installed after fixing 32-bit compatibility with

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apt-get install ia32-libs
 
Originally Posted By: ueberooo
Also got X-plane 10 installed after fixing 32-bit compatibility with

I've tried FlightGear, but haven't tried X-Plane yet. That's on my list.
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Originally Posted By: ClutchDisc
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Originally Posted By: ClutchDisc
I've been running Mint 17 since the day the RC was released. Very good OS, really stable. It's the best version of Linux Mint I've used yet!


I'm happy with it! I was very happy when my niece gave me a tower with a faster chip than what I had. All I did was put my two HDD's into the tower and booted it, everything worked great. I told a buddy and he suggested changing a driver, he walked me through it and this machine is working very well.

That's really great! Did your 4 GB of RAM come yet? What are you doing with the old tower?


4GB of Ram is in. So far the only difference is I can load more apps and not use the swap file at all. The machine itself even with 1 GB of Ram is faster than the 3100 I had with 2 GB of Ram. I attribute that to the chip though. With 4 GB of Ram I should be GTG for the lifetime of Mint 17 support and beyond I guess?

I took the 3100 I had with 2 GB of Ram and removed the second 80GB hard drive from my wife's machine and installed the 160 GB hard drive from the Vostro in its place after formatting it. That hard drive became the primary drive in my wife's 1 GB 3100 and has Mint 17 on it now. I will keep it for a spare. The Vostro has the two hard drives from my tower. I plugged them in and it worked, then I installed the proper drivers. It was actually easier than I thought, I didn't have to re-install the OS.

What was interesting about my wife's machine is even though it was the same 3100 Dell that I had, she had only 1 GB of Ram and in the second slot a silver [chip?] instead of more ram. Other than operating slower than my 3100 with 2 GB of ram I saw no difference in graphics or anything else. So that's why I sidelined her machine. I never really inquired what that silver chip was actually for, but as I said her machine was a dog compared to my 3100.

I'm really enjoying Mint 17, the more I use it the more I like it.
 
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