Just a thought on mass shootings

[Trajan]

Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: Trajan
Black Ops II has a part where you kill people with a machete.

Black Ops has some where you knife a few in the neck or garrote a guy.

And the ever popular Team Fortress II. Swords, knives, rocket launchers, guns, energy weapons....


Yup, Call of Duty has those as well.


Always enjoyed the flame thrower in CoD WaW. Bouncing Betty is good for some LoLs...

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: Trajan
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: Trajan
Black Ops II has a part where you kill people with a machete.

Black Ops has some where you knife a few in the neck or garrote a guy.

And the ever popular Team Fortress II. Swords, knives, rocket launchers, guns, energy weapons....


Yup, Call of Duty has those as well.


Always enjoyed the flame thrower in CoD WaW. Bouncing Betty is good for some LoLs...


I really like Borderlands and use the incendiary grenades frequently (they also have a Bouncing Betty variant!). I play the sniper role and love dishing out the head-shots

 

[Nickdfresh]

Originally Posted By: HM12460
Originally Posted By: Astro14
Originally Posted By: yeehaw1960


You will never convince people who think guns should be outlawed and taken away from citizens to see any other point of view.

By the way. All sailors are trained to handle firearms just as all sailors are trained to fight fires.


Completely agree with your first point.

His firearms training, in Reserve boot camp, was likely minimal...and as an Aviation Electrician's Mate, he likely never handled one again...





Most likely true. I don't think the Navy is big on firearms training for most enlisted rates any more.


I don't know about that. Perhaps in Basic. But sailors were serving along side soldiers, marines, and airmen in patrol convoys in the Iraq War...

 

[Nickdfresh]

Originally Posted By: SuzukiGoat
What gets me are the claims for more regulation.

Walmart has enough non regulated ingredients to kill everyone in the store or give them scorched lungs.

Jesus, even our pathetic local law enforcement passed out pamphlets to school administrators post 9/11 about simple household chemicals to check students for.

Our high school chemistry lab was used on more than one occassion to make a huge homecoming "firework"

You can't regulate insanity...psychos will always kill people...and personally I'm thankful they haven't figured out that guns aren't the most efficient way of mass murder.


Why not allow school children to purchase pharmaceutical opiates? Or everyone? After all, pharmaceutical painkillers don't kill people, people taking lots of drugs do...

 

[Nickdfresh]

Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
It would seem almost criminal that they were treated and released without qualification! Innocent folks have to die first?

New system desperately needed...


How about they can't just walk in a gun store and by a militarized shotgun?

 

[whip]

What is a militarized shotgun, and what does it do that a non militarized can't?

 

[Garak]

It can incite the media.

 

[Merkava_4]

Originally Posted By: dishdude
Here's a thought - how about less of these ridiculous high powered weapons like the AR-15 used in this one floating around.


I need that AR-15 for when it comes time to fight this corrupt Government.

 

[Shannow]

Originally Posted By: whip
Originally Posted By: Nickdfresh
How about they can't just walk in a gun store and by a militarized shotgun?


What is a militarized shotgun, and what does it do that a non militarized can't?


I think it demonstrates that the antis can make labels, then bandy them around as 'though something that is black, and has plastic is more lethal than grandad's duck gun...

Once they get that ingrained into people's thinking, then they can extend the attributes to other things that they want to ban.

e.g. a Ruger 10-22 has "much in common" with an AR15...works for people who like to be told what to think.

http://www.examiner.com/article/original-story-dissolves-so-press-demonizes-pump-shotgun

 

[Astro14]

Originally Posted By: Nickdfresh


I don't know about that. Perhaps in Basic. But sailors were serving along side soldiers, marines, and airmen in patrol convoys in the Iraq War...


For which those sailors receive focused, extensive training. We had, at one point, nearly 15,000 sailors with boots on the ground. They were all trained in small arms, movement, maneuver, and convoy ops by the US Army. That training costs time and $$$.

This shooter did not receive that kind of training. His billet assignment did not warrant it. He was being trained to fix aircraft electrical systems.

 

[Astro14]

Originally Posted By: Nickdfresh
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
It would seem almost criminal that they were treated and released without qualification! Innocent folks have to die first?

New system desperately needed...


How about they can't just walk in a gun store and by a militarized shotgun?


Two important fallacies being perpetuated here, so let me clear them up.

1. Virginia requires a background check on ALL firearms that are sold. That has been true since 1987, despite the rhetoric you hear in the press. This shooter bought his gun in a store, so the background check system was applied.

2. What is a militarized shotgun? Black paint? The Remington 870 isn't "militarized", other than the paint color. Calling it "militarized" is both sensational and inaccurate (no surprise that this mistake is being promulgated by our media, then). Functionally, practically, what this shooter used is identical to those used for skeet shooting and duck hunting. It's a 12 gauge Remington. Would anyone feel better if it was perhaps, woodland camo pattern? It wouldn't look so "evil" then, would it?

This shotgun is a hunting weapon, legally bought after an ATF background check. The proposed, and previous, assault weapons ban would not have affected the purchase of this weapon unless the mental health status of this shooter was allowed to be included in the background check. Currently, it is not.

 

[Swarmlord]

Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
I need that AR-15 for when it comes time to fight this corrupt Government.


DING! DING! DING!

There is a VERY good reason that the 2nd amendment is the ONLY amendment with the phrase "...shall not be infringed."

 

[GenSan]

Approaches to Target Hardening
Situational Awareness

 

[Pablo]

Not sure who complained about my thread....and it was deleted. Allow me to say it again: What most completely fail to mention that (at some point) the govt signed off on this guy's security clearance. It is kind of hard to keep guns out the hands of bad guys when they get certified as "good" by the govt. There was a breakdown in security and they even had warning! This guy had mental issues and the authorities KNEW about it.

Yet somehow once again this is the fault of legitimate gun owners. Completely twisted logic.

 

[Trajan]

Originally Posted By: Swarmlord
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
I need that AR-15 for when it comes time to fight this corrupt Government.


DING! DING! DING!

There is a VERY good reason that the 2nd amendment is the ONLY amendment with the phrase "...shall not be infringed."


Yeah, the South thought that too. Back then it was almost a fair fight, (Spencer repeaters nonwithstanding.)

Now, the gov't has all the cool toys.

The 2nd is also infringed all the time. State and Federal laws determine just who gets to have them.

If you're going to make note of "shall not be infringed", then anyone, paranoid, delusional, convicted felon, *anyone*, can have them then.

Can't interpret strictly. Though some do.

 

[Astro14]

Originally Posted By: Pablo
Not sure who complained about my thread....and it was deleted. Allow me to say it again: What most completely fail to mention that (at some point) the govt signed off on this guy's security clearance. It is kind of hard to keep guns out the hands of bad guys when they get certified as "good" by the govt. There was a breakdown in security and they even had warning! This guy had mental issues and the authorities KNEW about it.

Yet somehow once again this is the fault of legitimate gun owners. Completely twisted logic.


Couldn't agree more...