Jamis Dragon?

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Anyone have a Dragon 29er?

May have a lead on a great deal. TBD. I like the idea of steel, good components.

I do need to buy a gravel bike/flat bar of that type of setup. For different uses/situations (in addition). But the Dragon just seems awesome. My old Scott is getting a bit long in the tooth. Not that I ride it a ton.

Anyone??
 
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I know nothing, other than all these big bike companies were pushing aluminum and other exotics until Salsa brought steel back.

If its cheap enough sure. Otherwise why not buy the real thing?

https://www.salsacycles.com/products/2024-fargo-apex-1
Well you’re talking two different things.

For a gravel bike, sure, I’d consider that. I like the setup.

I’m looking at gravel bikes, but found a deal on a dragon MTB, different beast for different uses case. So I may buy another MTB to upgrade. Just for fun.
 
Well you’re talking two different things.

For a gravel bike, sure, I’d consider that. I like the setup.

I’m looking at gravel bikes, but found a deal on a dragon MTB, different beast for different uses case. So I may buy another MTB to upgrade. Just for fun.
OK, sorry you said gravel.

My point was that Salsa were the ones that brought steel back in Vogue. They have all kinds of bikes. https://www.salsacycles.com/collections/mountain-bikes

I keep telling myself if I actually start riding enough I will buy a Salsa. Or fly out to California and have a Rivendell made. Yes I know, different bikes altogether. A Walmart bike would likely do everything I needed it to. Not the point.
 
NBD!

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I decided to pull the trigger on the deal I found.

180mm 4-piston hydraulic brakes
1x SLX drivetrain
Reynolds 520
Fox 140mm fork
Dropper seat post (never had one before!)

Why not?!?

Not the flat bar gravel bike I’m looking for. That’s for other uses and comes next. Then I’m definitely biked out.

My photos don’t do it justice, so here’s some screen shots of their website:

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Loving the color. Need to get it out this weekend, or maybe Friday after work.
 
That bike has pretty aggressive geometry. If you ride fast downhill and technical drops you'll appreciate it and the dropper. It will take a little getting used to on tech steep climbs. Did you find it locally?
My other MTB is a 2011-ish Scott Scale.

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I know the direction is reverse, but this is the Dragon.

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The Scott is 69.5 degrees, iirc. The dragon is 65.

I remember when I was first trying 29” bikes, I picked the Scott because it felt the best/most responsive. It was fast, the handlebars weren’t too wide or cumbersome, and it handled well.

The Jamis handlebars are very wide. 36x760mm. If my searching is correct, the bars on my Scott are o my 580mm. Not sure how the handle bar and head angle play to affect liveliness and agility and responsiveness of steering. The Scott is great in that department, this Janis a tad bit less so, though I don’t know if it matters?

I found it locally in VA.
 
The Dragon isn't going to be a flickable and probably won't feel as fast with the larger tires. You'll get used to the wide bars fast. It will feel like you're riding a chopper with how far the front axle is ahead of the handlebars. The big plus is how stable it is on rough ground and going downhill. I'm too old to send it but even at moderate speeds this geometry makes you feel safe. It will be interesting to hear what you think.
 
Looks like a great bike but I wonder on how they settled on the name. Other riders may poke fun at you for Dragon your tail, etc. Why not Rock Luver or Tree Jumper?

Aside from that, weighing in at just below 32 pounds is pretty impressive for a chromoly-framed bike with a host of modern features.
 
I took the bike out on the trails today, and really enjoyed it. I ride bikes a lot, but in the last over 10 years, it’s been almost entirely around town, to the pool, to Baseball, to get groceries, ice cream, or your friends homes. Often times with a trailer or tagalong.

I took the bike out just with flat petals, because it’s been a long time since I’ve used my speed place frogs on a bike on terrain. I figured it was best to just take it slow and easy, especially since it was only the second time that my oldest child has been out on trails.

I’ve never had a bike with a dropper post, so that was interesting, and I definitely see the benefit of it. It worked great, though it did take a little bit of for thought in some cases to lower it and then to raise it back up.

I also have never had a 1x drivetrain before. I can definitely see the benefit of it for a mountain bike. One is set up well, so that you can switch through multiple years with one flick of a finger, and get some decent range pretty quickly. Later in the day, I drove my around town trek, verve, and I will say that having the high low range of a two speed front gear is beneficial in many ways, and I didn’t miss it in a few spots on the trail, where there were some smooth straight, runs where getting speed up could’ve been facilitated with a single gear change. All the same, I really do like the simplicity and the reduction of thought necessary with a drivetrain like this.

The bike road great, I had pumped up the shock, and it felt really good over different types of obstacles. I do think that the slacker set up of this bike let me shift my weight a bit differently than my other one, which helped to gain traction in some steep terrain. While I’ve read that a slacker geometry, makes it less good in climbing, on the trails around me, the clowns are pretty short, and the way that weight was distributed seemed to benefit compared to what I remember on some of the steep sections.

Now I really do have to figure out what to use to loop the chain and drivetrain. The dirt I’ll show on the chain was what was amassed in a little over an hour worth of riding. Some trails I go on will just cook everything in a fine red or brown dirt but this one was not so bad.
 
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I’ve gotten bikes and drivetrains far dirtier than this in the past, here and elsewhere. But it was just interesting to gauge the amount of dirt in good conditions in an hour of use.
 
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