Jack Stands - Narrowed it down to two

[johnachak]

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Is there a Chinese jack stand failure that you're aware of ? An actual event that you can share with us ?
Keith [/quote]

NOPE, and I am not going to be the first. China is not our ally and is famous for cutting corners to make a buck. Since their prices are already so low, where do you think the profits will come from besides cheaper raw materials and cheaper labor?

I don't find it prudent to trust my life or someone in my family's life to the cheapest thing I can find.

 

[user52165]

Originally Posted By: johnachak

Is there a Chinese jack stand failure that you're aware of ? An actual event that you can share with us ?
Keith [/quote]

NOPE, and I am not going to be the first. China is not our ally and is famous for cutting corners to make a buck. Since their prices are already so low, where do you think the profits will come from besides cheaper raw materials and cheaper labor?

I don't find it prudent to trust my life or someone in my family's life to the cheapest thing I can find. [/quote]

Where is your computer, your TV, your cell phone, your camera, your ............... made? You get the idea. Any country can make a quality product if they are given the design and directions to do so. Or they can make junk - it is up to the company (often USA) to call for whatever specifications they choose. Steve Jobs could have specified junk but he didn't. Don't make a blanket statement about a country. If a product is junk its because someone told them to make junk.

 

[Donald]

HF is an American family owned company that sources most of its items from China. But they are the ones behind a product, not a factory in China. If jack stands or a jack failed and killed someone HF would be liable and it would be a huge impact to their business. To that point I am sure HF has standards they want to see met. And do some level of evaluation.

I am sure most people get rotors made in China. They could fail and leave you without brakes and injure or kill someone.

Most people get 3 ton jack stands and use them for 1 to 1 1/2 tons.

 

[johnachak]

I am not trusting my life to a cell phone, tv or any other electronic appliance.
We're talking apples and oranges here. A cheap hand tool only strips a fastener or scrapes a knuckle. A bad jack stand can cause death or permanent disfigurement.

 

[johnachak]

A little overkill (pardon the phrase) would be prudent as you mentioned. At least that creates a margin for safety.

 

[Donald]

Originally Posted By: johnachak
I am not trusting my life to a cell phone, tv or any other electronic appliance.
We're talking apples and oranges here. A cheap hand tool only strips a fastener or scrapes a knuckle. A bad jack stand can cause death or permanent disfigurement.


When people get XRAYs most are sent overseas to be read by a radiologist. The findings are sent to your doctor to evaluate further. So to some extent you are trusting your life to an overseas radiologist.

 

[Vikas]

Correct me if I am wrong, but not all "overseas" are the same! I suspect radiologist's country of origin is NOT the same as the jack stand's COO

 

[ajchien]

Originally Posted By: Donald
Originally Posted By: johnachak
I am not trusting my life to a cell phone, tv or any other electronic appliance.
We're talking apples and oranges here. A cheap hand tool only strips a fastener or scrapes a knuckle. A bad jack stand can cause death or permanent disfigurement.


When people get XRAYs most are sent overseas to be read by a radiologist. The findings are sent to your doctor to evaluate further. So to some extent you are trusting your life to an overseas radiologist.


Going off topic, but you really need to use a better example.

If you're in the united states, a radiologist is a physician that must be licensed in the state they practice medicine, and if youre in a hospital setting, you also need to be usa board certified or board eligible - Which means they trained in the united states.

A radiologist in California, cannot practice medicine by interpreting images from new York or vice versa, unless s/he is licensed in new York.

Yes, there are a number of examples where a new York X-ray is sent out to Hawaii (or wherever) for interpretation. Usually because it's an emergent case at 4am new York time etc. but the person interpreting in Hawaii (or wherever) still needs to be new York licensed, and USA board certified or board eligible.

Off shoring radiology interpretations to a non licensed, non board certified radiologist is illegal and carries significant malpractice risk.

Discussions linked below:

http://radiology.rsna.org/content/247/1/3.full

http://www.acep.org/content.aspx?id=37744

http://web.mit.edu/flevy/www/Offshore Radiology IPC.pdf





On the other hand, if you're not in a hospital setting, any state licensed physician can interpret and perform/supervise X-ray studies. Many family practice docs or internal medicine or Orthopaedics surgeons interpret their own X-rays. Many cardiologists interpret their own nuclear studies. There has been argument that the in office setting self referral loophole is the major cause of skyrocketing radiology costs in the US, but that's a completely different topic.

 

[KB2008X]

Dang...I think an ajchien-is-the-medical-guy website is in order.

Keith

 

[johnachak]

Originally Posted By: Donald


When people get XRAYs most are sent overseas to be read by a radiologist. The findings are sent to your doctor to evaluate further. So to some extent you are trusting your life to an overseas radiologist.


Lets not say most, this is a very recent development. Besides they are analyzing a photo, not formulating steel.

 

[ajchien]

Originally Posted By: KB2008X
Dang...I think an ajchien-is-the-medical-guy website is in order.

Keith


Sorry for the off tracking of the topic. This forum has all sorts of people in all sorts of fields.

I'm pointing out that due to regulation and money reimbursements, radiologist services are not going offshore to non-USA trained people. frankly, the farthest offshore they can practically go is Hawaii.