Is Mobil 1 A1/B1 or A5/B5

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I was looking at back of the one quart and 5 quart bottles of Mobil 1 5w30, and they have different ratings.

The back of the ONE quart bottle, says it is A1/B1 and A5/B5 rated. BUT, the back of the 5 quart jug says JUST A1/B1. Why is that?

I checked the production dates with my Black light, & they were made around the same time.

I just don't get it.

Here are the pics, the one quart bottle is first.
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Interesting. Maybe the 5-gt jug is a WalMart special blend. WalMart sometines sells a inferior product at a cheaper price that's masquraded as the real thing. I wouldn't buy the 5-qt jug as it appears inferior.

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So, if I understand your post correctly, you're stating that the M1 in five gallon jugs at WalMart is either, A) counterfeit (an "inferior product ... that's masquraded as the real thing"), and/or B) a special contract product that ExxonMobil blends just for the retailer? Apparently some who contribute their wisdom to BITOG's greater knowledge base are unaware that blenders (all of 'em) often make running changes to their products during the course of a given API "S" category - and not always for the better, though always within the guidelines of that particular "S" category. Perhaps you might wish to familiarize yourself with the latest BITOG bruhaha concerning M1 and Mobil 1 Extended Performance blends apparently having been reformulated using predominently Group III base oils. You might alleviate everyone's angst in that thread that these "inferior" M1 versions are apparently exclusive to WalMart.
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I think this is about the time they changed the ratings. It is no longer rated A5/B5 but it was before the recent changes mobil made. Get the 10w30 if you want the A5/B5 rating.
 
TR3,

You had mentioned it is no longer rated A5/B5. Are you speaking of the Mobil 1 5w30?

As shown in the first picture, this is the newest bottle/label of Mobil 5w30 with the newest Honda/Acura HTO-06 spec. The newest Mobil 1 5w30 is indeed A5/B5 (at least according to the newest bottle/label).

Eddie,
The Mobil 1 website does indeed say you had posted. However, it may not be the most current info as the picture posted above is the newest bottle/label. I saw the same bottle at my local costco.
 
Not sure of which bottles and brands but have seen that before where the info on the bottle is incomplete and one size will have more specs on it than the other and which one has that info is not always the bigger one. Would not loose sleep over it.
 
They are probably just changing the chemistry to hold down costs. Who's going to not buy it because of that? Certainly not most customers.
 
This may be part of the bigger question concerning Mobil 1.There appears to be different labels on the same oil ie same type and grade of Mobil 1 and its not just at Walmart. I have 2 one Q bottles and an old jug of Mobil 1 15w50 in front of me all with different spec labelling . On Friday , 17NOV06 , I purchased one of the 1Q bottles at Walmart strictly for use here at BITOG . It has a very interesting label.

15W50 (EP)

"Suitable For API SL/CF "
No API circle
No ACEA
No ILSAC
No Manufacturers Spec
No mention of Pour Point Temp
No mention of what Temp ( normally 400 degrees F ) protects to
Different in other written detail as well from the other 3 bottles/jugs
Current bottle configuration , bottle appears physically fresh

Below /beside it same oil (Mobil 1 15W50 EP ) IN 5Q jug totally different.
API Circle SM/CF
ACEA A3 B3/B4
Includes pour temp protects to temp as missing from above.
Matches current Mobil website info

Both differ from the other 2 I have ( Mobil 1 15W50 (non EP - yes I know ) Red Top SL/CF and one with MB229.1 - one of which I purchased a week ago at another store .
 
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I don't think Walmart has that much to do with it. Part of the reason is three months ago had the same thing happen at an AZ (down the street from Walmart ) with Mobil 1 Extended Performance 5w30 . Here again the jugs had a "normal " label spec but the Q bottles only had the "Suitable For " no spec/spec.I have one bottle left.
That store is now stocking Mobil 1 (All types) that matches the info on the current Mobil website. btw while restocking a stash and examining Mobil 1 on the shelves in stores and empties from home lots of different label specs in a seemingly haphazard manner.

Perhaps it would be useful to start a plain "Whats your label say " Mobil 1 thread in support of this and the Mobil 1 threads ????
 
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This may be part of the bigger question concerning Mobil 1.There appears to be different labels on the oil ie type and grade and its not just at Walmart. I have 2 one Q bottles and an old jug of Mobil 1 15w50 in front of me all with different spec labelling . On Friday , 17NOV06 , I purchased one of the 1Q bottles at Walmart strictly for use here at BITOG . It has a very interesting label.

"Suitable For API SL/CF "
No API circle
No ACEA
No ILSAC
No Manufacturers Spec
No mention of Pour Point Temp
No mention of what Temp ( normally 400 degrees F )
Different in other written detail as well from the other 3 bottles/jugs
Current bottle configuration , bottle appears physically fresh

Below /beside it same oil (Mobil 1 15W50 EP ) IN 5Q jug totally different.
API Circle SM/CF
ACEA A3 B3/B4
Includes pour temp protects to temp as missing from above.
Matches current Mobil website info

Both differ from the other 2 I have ( Red Top SL/CF and MB229.1 - one of which I purchased a week ago at another store .

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I'm suprised you found a bottle of this. This was the post Katrina Mobil 1 for a while. The additive plant was damaged. They were sending this oil out for a few months. This is one reason Mobil 1 lost me as a customer.
 
Yes..... that seems to be one of if not the only possibility.... maybe I have it wrong but other than black light for production date and I think gold cap ???? as non absolute indicater is there any other way to id who ,what,when at least roughly?
 
I also see that the AMG label is on one and not on the other.
My feeling is that its the same oil, its just their marketing and labelling dept are smoking zol.
Either way, it leaves you as a customer in a rather precarious position...but then again I recon 90% of people don't give a #@$%! about the label, they just need "OIL"...bit sad...they need to get the consistency right. The saying: " Your most valuable lessons are normally learnt by your most critical customer" ring true here.
 
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