Interesting Oil Comparo Test with Results..

[Leo]

Check this out. Came across this when some guy posted why he uses RP;

Take a read.

Sorry about the yousendit link but its 4.1mb and my personal webspace would max out fast.

Anyways thats not enough to tell me RP is good. Its a Timken test! However still I'm suprised Redline and M1 did so poorly... Comments?

[PS I'll reupload the article if the link expires]

 

[Winston]

What a joke. I can't believe anyone would give them the money to buy the oil for the test. Then actually pay them to write an article about it?!?! Just silly.

 

[Blake Sobiloff]

Lots of folks can formulate an oil that will excel on a Timken-style test, but fail utterly in the real world environment of an internal combustion engine. This kind of article annoys me because it perfectly illustrates how just a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. (Not that I know a whole heck of a lot, but at least I know enough to know I don't know squat!

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[bruce381]

Well that test IS NOT A ASTM method that test is a BAll park figure at best repeatablily is lousy I know I have one.
But from high to low if run carfully you could say that on one end there are good and the other end bad.
BUT any good formulator can add 1% of a varity of additves that will show NO bearing mark at all BUT you have to ask what effect does that additive have on the whole picture?

Such as increase in sludge, corroison, gunk, staining seal swell etc.

Take it with a grain of salt unless this test covered all I mentioned then it is only good for this one type of wear reduction with other benifits or problems not shown.
bruce

 

[Curious Kid]

A bit nerving I'd say - still thanks for sharing Leo. Many of the oils I have not seen on my "regular store shelves."

I think I recall the writer(s) mentioning that this test may not identify how the oil will perform in the engine, and that it's just one test situation. I'm left to wonder just why then they did/do this with a "motor" oil rather than a "timkin machine" oil?

Well, a bit of angst aside (ah, there's the sales making force felt by the not-so-knowledgeable customer), it still seemed interesting to "see" the results even though they may just be close to meaningless for what you or I might know neccessitates such properties (non-roller cam interface during cold operation???).

"Take it with a grain of salt" - I'm thinking sea salt!

 

[Leo]

The article was written in Australia and thus you wont see half of these oils available in USA except for the major ones.

Its funny though, if the wear was so severe you'd wonder about camshafts etc wearing out really fast.

Its hard to argue with most ill informed people that the Timken means nothing. People love them..

 

[tamu_man]

That's like taking a car and saying it's the best because nobody is faster in the quarter mile. What about turns and ride quality. There are just as many if not more variables to consider with oils.

 

[got boost?]

I'm not going to download the file but if it is the bearing test mentioned bove, you can get amazing results from any oil by simply adding some bleach.