I'm liking my O'Reilly Havoline 5W-20 dino

[SilverC6]

Running some Havoline 5W-20 in my two Camrys (2010 and '11).

I picked it up in an O'Reilly's oil deal with some Microguard filters.

Must have some extra ball bearings in it as it's delivering some good gas mileage.

It may be my new "go to" cheap oil, what ever that means.

 

[lubedude13]

Why'd you go with a 5w20 when it specs 0w20

 

[SilverC6]

If you read the manual on your 2010, you can use dino every other change.

The cars can't tell the difference.

The real answer is that you can't get 0W-20 synthetic for $15.99 including a filter.

 

[lubedude13]

Are you gonna run it 10k?

Also I don't think toyota says that you can run it every other change. That makes no sense. What they are saying is that if it isn't available you can but to go back to 0w20 the next change.

With that being said it's your car. You can run 20w50 in it if you want.

I'd just like to know if you are running 10k intervals?

 

[SilverC6]

Heck no.

I wouldn't run any oil 10k.

 

[lubedude13]

Why not?

I run mine 10k with a UOA showing awesome wear. May go 12k next time.

 

[SilverC6]

I'm sure my wear is low too.

Havoline has a very stout additive package with high TBN.

And I'm not spending big bucks on overpriced synthetics or lab testing.

 

[lubedude13]

Do you change it every 5k?

 

[SatinSilver]

Excellent choice esp for a 5k run. But I do like the TGMO for a 10k oci which is what my dad does with his 2012 Camry.

 

[SilverC6]

Originally Posted By: lubedude13
Do you change it every 5k?


Yes.


I used TGMO while under warranty but still changed at 5000 miles.

I'm sure 10,000 miles would be just fine. TGMO is good stuff.

 

[SilverC6]

Originally Posted By: lubedude13


I don't think toyota says that you can run it every other change. That makes no sense. What they are saying is that if it isn't available you can but to go back to 0w20 the next change.



I believe that means you can run it every other change.

You need to remember that in 2010, 0W-20 was pretty rare.

Also, with virtually the same viscosities, how does the engine discern a 0W-20 synthetic from a 5W-20 dino?

Toyota's 0W-20 choice in the US is driven by our CAFE standards, not the engine's requirements.

5w30 would be in the manual if it wasn't for fuel economy concerns.

 

[zerosoma]

Originally Posted By: SilverC6
Heck no.

I wouldn't run any oil 10k.



Yeah I've never been able to wait that long myself. It takes several months to get to that point and I like changing it at least every 3 months. Synthetic or not I usually change at 5-7k.

 

[Merkava_4]

Originally Posted By: lubedude13
Why not? I run mine 10k with a UOA showing awesome wear. May go 12k next time.


Yeah but is your engine clean with zero varnish ?

 

[lubedude13]

Originally Posted By: SilverC6
Originally Posted By: lubedude13


I don't think toyota says that you can run it every other change. That makes no sense. What they are saying is that if it isn't available you can but to go back to 0w20 the next change.



I believe that means you can run it every other change.




You need to remember that in 2010, 0W-20 was pretty rare.

Also, with virtually the same viscosities, how does the engine discern a 0W-20 synthetic from a 5W-20 dino?

Toyota's 0W-20 choice in the US is driven by our CAFE standards, not the engine's requirements.

5w30 would be in the manual if it wasn't for fuel economy concerns.

Originally Posted By: SilverC6
Originally Posted By: lubedude13


I don't think toyota says that you can run it every other change. That makes no sense. What they are saying is that if it isn't available you can but to go back to 0w20 the next change.



I believe that means you can run it every other change.

You need to remember that in 2010, 0W-20 was pretty rare.

Also, with virtually the same viscosities, how does the engine discern a 0W-20 synthetic from a 5W-20 dino?

Toyota's 0W-20 choice in the US is driven by our CAFE standards, not the engine's requirements.

5w30 would be in the manual if it wasn't for fuel economy concerns.



Do you have proof that 5w30 would be used if CAFE wasn't standard?

 

[bigt61]

Originally Posted By: SilverC6


And I'm not spending big bucks on overpriced synthetics or lab testing.


You've got a couple of hundred grand in just the BMW's in your sig, not to mention the rest of the cars which aren't exactly beaters. Nice to know where you draw the line on spending money. Thanks for the morning chuckle.

 

[Red91]

I kind of agree. If you can afford to own high end automobiles, why draw the line at spending money on synthetic oil and lab testing? I would probably entertain both.

 

[mjk]

It is amazing to see where these threads go. All the OP stated was that he liked his Havoline, and that he will change at 5k intervals.

Never got on a soapbox, declaring Havoline to be anything other than a good serviceable oil. Yet, we have to have the keyboard cowboys here offering their opinions on how he should spend his money. Unbelievable.

 

[sir1900]

Originally Posted By: mjk
It is amazing to see where these threads go. All the OP stated was that he liked his Havoline, and that he will change at 5k intervals.

Never got on a soapbox, declaring Havoline to be anything other than a good serviceable oil. Yet, we have to have the keyboard cowboys here offering their opinions on how he should spend his money. Unbelievable.


Yup. Welcome to the Internet. I remember a few years back when I started a thread about how the dealer is charging $90 for an oil change in the Lexus. I thought at the time, it was ridiculous (I still do). It seems the mentality among some members here is you should instantly overpay for anything and everything if you are willing to spend your money on nice vehicles.

By the way, I change my own oil on the Lexus at a net cost of $35 or less. 2.5 DIYs = 1 trip to the dealer.

 

[Red91]

Keyboard cowboys? It is a discussion forum, so things get discussed. When you post something, anything, it is subject to everyone's opinion. Sometimes differing opinions are offered, and sometimes the subject changes. It's the nature of the beast. I don't think anyone has become a "Keyboard Cowboy", but a good point is made that if you own and maintain new and/or high end cars, you really shouldn't skimp out on quality products and services.

 

[mjk]

Great, then explain to me how he is 'skimping' on his oil ?? 5k changes for a well-respected Dino.

I suppose you'd advocate a UOA on a 5k change? LMAO!

Seriously.. I would love to know. Especially in this particular application - a Camry.

Notice his other vehicles are using other lubricants!



Originally Posted By: Red91
Keyboard cowboys? It is a discussion forum, so things get discussed. When you post something, anything, it is subject to everyone's opinion. Sometimes differing opinions are offered, and sometimes the subject changes. It's the nature of the beast. I don't think anyone has become a "Keyboard Cowboy", but a good point is made that if you own and maintain new and/or high end cars, you really shouldn't skimp out on quality products and services.