Im a bit sad..............

[Bugshu]

It looks like thousands have died and propety damage is in the billions. We have the lowest elements of humanity scavenging the situation and looting.

My mind tells me that anybody who has chosen to live below sea level is asking for trouble once a hurricane hits and yet my heart still seems to feel for the victims.

When travelling through the coast recently I marvelled a the beauty of the homes and wondered why people would build such homes in the face of a hurricane path and months later devastation is a reality.

Theres not much I can do and perhaps I feel helpless as I look to the hurricane but still....

Im a bit sad ............

Happy Motoring All,

Bugshu

 

[JHZR2]

It is wvery sad. But it maddens me that so many healthy looking, able bodied people remained instead of fleeing. Even if youre really poor, Id think you could find a way to get out... Chances are you could have gotten a greyhound ticket for 20 miles northbound pretty cheap, and gotten out of the worst areas, rather then remaining - at least if youre a young, healthy individual, like most in the pictures appear to be.

A coworker thinks that most remained for the sake of looting, and now theyre mad that the NG is coming in to stop the looting, and they arent getting food and supplies, nor can they steal them.

I would give money, but I dont want the scum who are looting and causing all the trouble Ive been reading about to get a dime.

JMH

 

[motorguy222]

Someone even shot at a military helicopter that was hunting I think survivors,it had to quit because of such.

Several police had to be taken away from looking for survivors? so they could stop the looting that was going on.

 

[cangreylegend]

I'm shocked at the tardy reaction of the rescue and aid efforts. I thought this happened in the USA. In third world countries people are more "accustomed" to surviving on the minimum of requirements. When you grow up in a city, once the infrastructure breaks down, it's a different ball game. They really need serious help. It's been 4 days and this is the USA????

My heart goes out to the people in these conditions. I really don't know how I would have coped if I were there.

 

[mechtech]

Coast Guard boats, and civilian vessels, have been shot at, when approaching to help.
Many couldn't get close because of this.

 

[kanling]

Seems like New Orleans should have been a little better prepared a few days beforehand.

They issued an evacuation order, but now they're saying that many people didn't have the means to evacuate.

Shouldn't they have had a better evacuation plan, then?

Well... what's done is done... now's the time for fixing the mess not laying blame.

 

[GROUCHO MARX]

There are snipers shooting at doctors as they try to evacuate a hospital in N.O.

Is this effin' Iraq?

 

[tom slick]

We should have a national respose system to get people out of harms way, not just a system to pick them up once they are harmed.
I get really angry seeing the thousands of people that stayed and are now needing rescue. now many more people have to put themselves into harms way to pull them out of the mess they saw coming for days before it hit.

 

[moribundman]

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Is this effin' Iraq?

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That's what I was wondering when I saw dead US citizens float in US city streets.

Can't anybody take those snipers out? What is going on in what's left of New Orleans?

 

[TooManyWheels]

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We should have a national respose system to get people out of harms way

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Once upon a time we had National Guard, but somehow they got moved somewhere else "more important". And once upon a time we had FEMA (Fed. Emergency Mangement), but somehow their coastal flood protection budget got slashed so the money could go somewhere else "more important".

I hope that across the board, our society looks at this and goes from a little bit sad, to mad as h@!l, wanting to know how and why, and an eventual reorientation of national priorities.

For years we have been selling out our infrastructure for quick, cheap, superficial gain. Now our stupidity is coming 'round to bite us. OBL is probably wondering, what ONE match stick do we need to knock out to make the whole U.S. crumble? Maybe just one more refinery?

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[obbop]

Many subcultures within the USA.

In the upper midwest I believe that the vast majority of folks located within a zone suffering vast destruction would gather, organize, allocate resources..... get to work.

Of course, locations such as inner cities with their unique culture would likely be looting, shooting, carousing..... not working.

Some use the term "racism."

I prefer the term "culturalism."

Not all cultures are equal despite the PC warm fuzzy crowd attempting to brainwash the citizenry that multiculturalism and diversity is to be embraced, admired.

BAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Of course, surely the news focuses on the bad and doesn't show the efforts to begin renewal, to gather and distribute supplies.... to organize, direct efforts, to tend to the injured, etc.

But, then again, those efforts may be very minimal.

I betcha' the Japanese would be operating at the local level in a manner that would minimize trauma to the individual. I doubt the Japanese would be looting and shooting and standing around, wailing about the lack of help by outside others.

But, Japan is a monoculture where the folks roll up those proverbial shirt sleeves and get to work.

Too many Americans are losers and since losers breed so fast and are encouraged by all the social safety nets in place their numbers will increase until a critical point is reached and the USA falls flat on its face...... ending the Founder's Great Experiment.

 

[XS650]

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Originally posted by tom slick:
We should have a national respose system to get people out of harms way, not just a system to pick them up once they are harmed.
I get really angry seeing the thousands of people that stayed and are now needing rescue. now many more people have to put themselves into harms way to pull them out of the mess they saw coming for days before it hit.

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4 Days later and still big shortages of water, food and sanitation facilities in the Toilet Dome. This is just plain incompetence. I expect as much from NO and Louisiana, but the Federal Government should have had water and food moving into that place in large quantities as soon as the winds died down.

 

[Steve S]

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Originally posted by obbop:
Many subcultures within the USA.

In the upper midwest I believe that the vast majority of folks located within a zone suffering vast destruction would gather, organize, allocate resources..... get to work.

Of course, locations such as inner cities with their unique culture would likely be looting, shooting, carousing..... not working.

Some use the term "racism."

I prefer the term "culturalism."

Not all cultures are equal despite the PC warm fuzzy crowd attempting to brainwash the citizenry that multiculturalism and diversity is to be embraced, admired.

BAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Of course, surely the news focuses on the bad and doesn't show the efforts to begin renewal, to gather and distribute supplies.... to organize, direct efforts, to tend to the injured, etc.

But, then again, those efforts may be very minimal.

I betcha' the Japanese would be operating at the local level in a manner that would minimize trauma to the individual. I doubt the Japanese would be looting and shooting and standing around, wailing about the lack of help by outside others.

But, Japan is a monoculture where the folks roll up those proverbial shirt sleeves and get to work.

Too many Americans are losers and since losers breed so fast and are encouraged by all the social safety nets in place their numbers will increase until a critical point is reached and the USA falls flat on its face...... ending the Founder's Great Experiment.

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[Steve S]

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Originally posted by XS650:

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Originally posted by tom slick:
We should have a national respose system to get people out of harms way, not just a system to pick them up once they are harmed.
I get really angry seeing the thousands of people that stayed and are now needing rescue. now many more people have to put themselves into harms way to pull them out of the mess they saw coming for days before it hit.

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4 Days later and still big shortages of water, food and sanitation facilities in the Toilet Dome. This is just plain incompetence. I expect as much from NO and Louisiana, but the Federal Government should have had water and food moving into that place in large quantities as soon as the winds died down.

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Can't we are rebuilding Iraq.

 

[JHZR2]

lets not make this political and about Iraq.

It is disgusting how things are going... and obpop is very right.

martial law should have been declared by congress a long time ago (get those bums in session fast)

Those people who are looting, and who remained while being able bodied, regardless of means, disgust me.

JMH

 

[kingrob]

Since when did the US governement have to do EVERYTHING for people? I mean, we have nothing to compare this devastation to, nothing in our history could have prepared us for this amount of anihilation. But everybody's looking to blame somebody. The police before the storm hit were telling people to evacuate, get out of town and the people were cussing the cops and throwing things at them, yet now those same people are looting and shooting and making fools of themselves on TV saying things like "Bush needs to be impeached, National Guard aint doin their jobs" then when the cameras off they start shooting at helicopters.Then it's "Where the aid at? I needs a hotel!"

It's a disaster zone, the military and police can't rush in there and start pulling sandwiches and bottled water out of thir rear ends; we're trying to get things under control. But when you have human animals running the streets it makes the whole situation that much tougher.

 

[Amkeer]

I agree with Obbop, its a total disgrace to see all the violence in New Orleans! I couldn't write my thoughts here............but most of you would get my point.

I feel for the good people there and my thoughts and prayers are with them.

The animals can stay where they belong.

 

[k1xv]

Speaking of animals, there is a beautiful zoo in New Orleans. I understand it is in about the highest elevation of the city, so it did not flood. However, getting food to the animals is a big problem with everything else going on.

It may seem trivial that I am thinking about the zoo animals, but they are innocent creatures totally dependent on man, their captors.

 

[97tbird]

Are any other countries in the world helping U.S.?
I still haven't heard of any international aid/help... :-(
The U.S. sure can use them right now, imo.

 

[PandaBear]

I could understand the desperation of running out of food and water, but rapes and looting with arms, and shooting at national guard?

Maybe sometimes you can understand other's concern about the right to bear arms.

And yeah, agreed that NG should have been in place much earlier than that.