Andrewg,
What about your kids and grandkids ?
What about your kids and grandkids ?
if you could live as long as you want
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You should smoke, drink, eat fast food and take lots of pills. That way you won't have to worry about living too long.
Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
Andrewg,
What about your kids and grandkids ?
I don't have any.
Andrewg,
What about your kids and grandkids ?
I don't have any.
Originally Posted By: Bud
Originally Posted By: Jetronic
I think I could've gone on forever while I was in kindergarten... seemed like it would last forever, no pressure etc...
things really go downhill from there.
I have no interest to live particularly long, just want to be in good enough health to provide for the family and see the daughter make something of her life.
70 would be enough I think...
Had to smile when I read this reply. I am 69 this year and now I think 80 might be enough. When I hit 80 if that time comes I will probably say 90 will be enough. As long as my health holds out along with enough money to live comfortably on, I will go for longevity.
Heh, I realized long ago that when I'm 90 I'll probably want to see 91, then when I'm 91 I'll want to see 92, etc. Even when I'm bed-ridden I'll probably still want to see just one more day.
If I were stuck with this ailment prone body (let's be real, no matter what you do, by age 100 most systems are well in decline) then 90 or so is about all I want. By then I'll have seen some great grand kids with any luck, see the fruits of my efforts, die a happy man. 100 might be nice but not if my days consist being helped around and just watching TV.
Remove the ailing body though and I might well be content to go 1,000 years. People have been whining about how the up and coming generation is ruining everything; and with the exception of the Romans I suspect they've all been wrong.
Originally Posted By: Jetronic
I think I could've gone on forever while I was in kindergarten... seemed like it would last forever, no pressure etc...
things really go downhill from there.
I have no interest to live particularly long, just want to be in good enough health to provide for the family and see the daughter make something of her life.
70 would be enough I think...
Had to smile when I read this reply. I am 69 this year and now I think 80 might be enough. When I hit 80 if that time comes I will probably say 90 will be enough. As long as my health holds out along with enough money to live comfortably on, I will go for longevity.
Heh, I realized long ago that when I'm 90 I'll probably want to see 91, then when I'm 91 I'll want to see 92, etc. Even when I'm bed-ridden I'll probably still want to see just one more day.
If I were stuck with this ailment prone body (let's be real, no matter what you do, by age 100 most systems are well in decline) then 90 or so is about all I want. By then I'll have seen some great grand kids with any luck, see the fruits of my efforts, die a happy man. 100 might be nice but not if my days consist being helped around and just watching TV.
Remove the ailing body though and I might well be content to go 1,000 years. People have been whining about how the up and coming generation is ruining everything; and with the exception of the Romans I suspect they've all been wrong.
Originally Posted By: Wolf359
Originally Posted By: grampi
If society continues changing the way it has over my lifetime, I certainly wouldn't want to stick around forever...it's sickening to watch how this country, and the world really, is spinning down the toilet...there are still good things and joys to experience in life, but they're getting harder and harder to come by...
It's interesting that you say that. People have been saying that the world was getting worse since the 19th century and way before that I'm sure. You had the civil war, WWI and then WWII. The latest wars aren't actually that bad compared to those.
And people have ben saying exactly the same thing you've said. But the fact is...our culture is quickly deteriorating. Morals change...but the basics are constant. We've become far more immoral. Same thing with ethics. Honesty....integrity...taking care of family. Responsibility. Accountability. Respect for your neighbor. Respect for marriage. Manners. Work ethics. Social etiquette. I could go on and cite examples...but I have a feeling that you, and many others, would be defending modern culture and have an opposite view....yet the further down the toilet our nation tumbles.
Originally Posted By: grampi
If society continues changing the way it has over my lifetime, I certainly wouldn't want to stick around forever...it's sickening to watch how this country, and the world really, is spinning down the toilet...there are still good things and joys to experience in life, but they're getting harder and harder to come by...
It's interesting that you say that. People have been saying that the world was getting worse since the 19th century and way before that I'm sure. You had the civil war, WWI and then WWII. The latest wars aren't actually that bad compared to those.
And people have ben saying exactly the same thing you've said. But the fact is...our culture is quickly deteriorating. Morals change...but the basics are constant. We've become far more immoral. Same thing with ethics. Honesty....integrity...taking care of family. Responsibility. Accountability. Respect for your neighbor. Respect for marriage. Manners. Work ethics. Social etiquette. I could go on and cite examples...but I have a feeling that you, and many others, would be defending modern culture and have an opposite view....yet the further down the toilet our nation tumbles.
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Watching the **** Clarke Rockin new years eve got me thinking about this. Its the SOS every year. They could have played the tape from last year and no one would have known. I believe eventually everything is going to be that way. Almost nothing will be new and exciting save for high risk activities being invented.
Our brains get tired. Could you imagine living for 100k or a million years? It'd be like watching grass grow. A million years is a very short time.
I'm not saying eternal life doesn't exist. Its just that God must have innovative ways of keeping it interesting. Maybe were living it now, in the form of reincarnation. God keeps hitting the reset button so its not too much for us to handle.
Our brains get tired. Could you imagine living for 100k or a million years? It'd be like watching grass grow. A million years is a very short time.
I'm not saying eternal life doesn't exist. Its just that God must have innovative ways of keeping it interesting. Maybe were living it now, in the form of reincarnation. God keeps hitting the reset button so its not too much for us to handle.
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Originally Posted By: turtlevette
Originally Posted By: Kuato
Depends on if you age or not.
No ageing. Be whatever age you want. I'm talking about the mental aspect.
Not aging would allow you to stay healthy and take a long view about things. Really live, sample everything and I mean everything this world has to offer. You'd have to change identity every so often or the government would be after you, and looking over your shoulder because of that might wear on you.
Good philosophical question.
Originally Posted By: Kuato
Depends on if you age or not.
No ageing. Be whatever age you want. I'm talking about the mental aspect.
Not aging would allow you to stay healthy and take a long view about things. Really live, sample everything and I mean everything this world has to offer. You'd have to change identity every so often or the government would be after you, and looking over your shoulder because of that might wear on you.
Good philosophical question.
Originally Posted By: turtlevette
Watching the **** Clarke Rockin new years eve got me thinking about this. Its the SOS every year. They could have played the tape from last year and no one would have known. I believe eventually everything is going to be that way. Almost nothing will be new and exciting save for high risk activities being invented.
Our brains get tired. Could you imagine living for 100k or a million years? It'd be like watching grass grow. A million years is a very short time.
I'm not saying eternal life doesn't exist. Its just that God must have innovative ways of keeping it interesting. Maybe were living it now, in the form of reincarnation. God keeps hitting the reset button so its not too much for us to handle.
Yep...SOS...year in, year out. As I've aged, the more it seems that way.
I welcome new interests to keep me from going nutty. The internet has helped discover many of those interests. Before that I used to spend many days per month scanning subjects at the library.
Watching the **** Clarke Rockin new years eve got me thinking about this. Its the SOS every year. They could have played the tape from last year and no one would have known. I believe eventually everything is going to be that way. Almost nothing will be new and exciting save for high risk activities being invented.
Our brains get tired. Could you imagine living for 100k or a million years? It'd be like watching grass grow. A million years is a very short time.
I'm not saying eternal life doesn't exist. Its just that God must have innovative ways of keeping it interesting. Maybe were living it now, in the form of reincarnation. God keeps hitting the reset button so its not too much for us to handle.
Yep...SOS...year in, year out. As I've aged, the more it seems that way.
I welcome new interests to keep me from going nutty. The internet has helped discover many of those interests. Before that I used to spend many days per month scanning subjects at the library.
I think living 1k years would be fun, I'd love to try to build some sort of evil organization.
Its going to be interesting the next 1k years will either see man become a space faring civilization or be destroyed/have our society greatly downgraded. The pace of change is speeding up rapidly.
AI is the real curve ball here, and that is coming soon.
Its going to be interesting the next 1k years will either see man become a space faring civilization or be destroyed/have our society greatly downgraded. The pace of change is speeding up rapidly.
AI is the real curve ball here, and that is coming soon.
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If I enjoyed good physical health, had enough funds to live simply and remained free of senile dementia, I can't see any real barrier to living to any given span.
After the first century or so, I would think that one's desire to acquire material things would fade. One might spend an entire century traveling, if he could afford to do so, but that would ultimately pass, after having gone everywhere there was to go and seen everything there was to see.
There would naturally be places one would return to, though.
After a few centuries, most of one's time would be spent in acquiring knowledge, of history, the arts and technical progress over the centuries.
If one could really hope to live for a millennium, he would be around long enough to see how the current unsustainable consumption of resources ends.
Does it end in chaos, in a post-consumption world society or merely continue with a cascade of materials recovered on other worlds?
We won't see an end to mass employment of some kind, since those at the top of the tree would always have to be wary of those on the ground chopping the tree down.
History shows that a large dispossessed class will bring revolution and none of the shinning palaces with their phalanxes of guards can protect the ruling elite when that happens.
It is for this reason that I don't fear for the future of our civilization. If things get too far out of balance, there are natural socio-politico forces that will come to bear to restore balance.
I think the word that a poster above wanted was "amoral", not immoral. The amorality of our current world culture began way up the food chain, not down here among us worker bees.
The natural sense of morality that most people have will eventually reassert itself among the masses and our current era of amorality will end.
Would be interesting to be around long enough to see how this all plays out.
After the first century or so, I would think that one's desire to acquire material things would fade. One might spend an entire century traveling, if he could afford to do so, but that would ultimately pass, after having gone everywhere there was to go and seen everything there was to see.
There would naturally be places one would return to, though.
After a few centuries, most of one's time would be spent in acquiring knowledge, of history, the arts and technical progress over the centuries.
If one could really hope to live for a millennium, he would be around long enough to see how the current unsustainable consumption of resources ends.
Does it end in chaos, in a post-consumption world society or merely continue with a cascade of materials recovered on other worlds?
We won't see an end to mass employment of some kind, since those at the top of the tree would always have to be wary of those on the ground chopping the tree down.
History shows that a large dispossessed class will bring revolution and none of the shinning palaces with their phalanxes of guards can protect the ruling elite when that happens.
It is for this reason that I don't fear for the future of our civilization. If things get too far out of balance, there are natural socio-politico forces that will come to bear to restore balance.
I think the word that a poster above wanted was "amoral", not immoral. The amorality of our current world culture began way up the food chain, not down here among us worker bees.
The natural sense of morality that most people have will eventually reassert itself among the masses and our current era of amorality will end.
Would be interesting to be around long enough to see how this all plays out.
Part of me lives on in my daughter, that's as immortal as I'll get. And it's enough for me.
Originally Posted By: fdcg27
If I enjoyed good physical health, had enough funds to live simply and remained free of senile dementia, I can't see any real barrier to living to any given span.
After the first century or so, I would think that one's desire to acquire material things would fade. One might spend an entire century traveling, if he could afford to do so, but that would ultimately pass, after having gone everywhere there was to go and seen everything there was to see.
There would naturally be places one would return to, though.
After a few centuries, most of one's time would be spent in acquiring knowledge, of history, the arts and technical progress over the centuries.
If one could really hope to live for a millennium, he would be around long enough to see how the current unsustainable consumption of resources ends.
Does it end in chaos, in a post-consumption world society or merely continue with a cascade of materials recovered on other worlds?
We won't see an end to mass employment of some kind, since those at the top of the tree would always have to be wary of those on the ground chopping the tree down.
History shows that a large dispossessed class will bring revolution and none of the shinning palaces with their phalanxes of guards can protect the ruling elite when that happens.
It is for this reason that I don't fear for the future of our civilization. If things get too far out of balance, there are natural socio-politico forces that will come to bear to restore balance.
I think the word that a poster above wanted was "amoral", not immoral. The amorality of our current world culture began way up the food chain, not down here among us worker bees.
The natural sense of morality that most people have will eventually reassert itself among the masses and our current era of amorality will end.
Would be interesting to be around long enough to see how this all plays out.
I'm not so sure that we will run out of what you call "sustainable" resources. I would think that we will become advanced enough to be able to sustain ourselves in new ways that we can't even contemplate now.
Civilizations do rise and fall. I don't fear it either because I'll be dead. But if I lived as the OP proposed...I would fear the downfall. When those things occur (and it will...as I think it's begun already), they are almost always messy affairs with much hardship and death.
I don't know much about english and it's proper use. I try, but often come up short as you may have highlighted with the "immoral" and "amoral" points. I looked up the definitions so that I would not feel like a total fool. Here is a snippet from one of the sites that gives an explanation:
"So while immoral and amoral might share a little common ground, there is a clear distinction:
Immoral things are bad, and amoral things are either neutral from a moral perspective or simply removed from moral considerations."
If I enjoyed good physical health, had enough funds to live simply and remained free of senile dementia, I can't see any real barrier to living to any given span.
After the first century or so, I would think that one's desire to acquire material things would fade. One might spend an entire century traveling, if he could afford to do so, but that would ultimately pass, after having gone everywhere there was to go and seen everything there was to see.
There would naturally be places one would return to, though.
After a few centuries, most of one's time would be spent in acquiring knowledge, of history, the arts and technical progress over the centuries.
If one could really hope to live for a millennium, he would be around long enough to see how the current unsustainable consumption of resources ends.
Does it end in chaos, in a post-consumption world society or merely continue with a cascade of materials recovered on other worlds?
We won't see an end to mass employment of some kind, since those at the top of the tree would always have to be wary of those on the ground chopping the tree down.
History shows that a large dispossessed class will bring revolution and none of the shinning palaces with their phalanxes of guards can protect the ruling elite when that happens.
It is for this reason that I don't fear for the future of our civilization. If things get too far out of balance, there are natural socio-politico forces that will come to bear to restore balance.
I think the word that a poster above wanted was "amoral", not immoral. The amorality of our current world culture began way up the food chain, not down here among us worker bees.
The natural sense of morality that most people have will eventually reassert itself among the masses and our current era of amorality will end.
Would be interesting to be around long enough to see how this all plays out.
I'm not so sure that we will run out of what you call "sustainable" resources. I would think that we will become advanced enough to be able to sustain ourselves in new ways that we can't even contemplate now.
Civilizations do rise and fall. I don't fear it either because I'll be dead. But if I lived as the OP proposed...I would fear the downfall. When those things occur (and it will...as I think it's begun already), they are almost always messy affairs with much hardship and death.
I don't know much about english and it's proper use. I try, but often come up short as you may have highlighted with the "immoral" and "amoral" points. I looked up the definitions so that I would not feel like a total fool. Here is a snippet from one of the sites that gives an explanation:
"So while immoral and amoral might share a little common ground, there is a clear distinction:
Immoral things are bad, and amoral things are either neutral from a moral perspective or simply removed from moral considerations."
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
There was a TV show about that called 'New Amsterdam.' The guy was 400 years and looked 30.
I am Duncan MacLeod, born four hundred years ago in the Highlands of Scotland. I am Immortal and I am not alone. For centuries we have waited for the time of the Gathering, when the stroke of a sword and the fall of a head will release the power of the Quickening. In the end, there can be only one.
There was a TV show about that called 'New Amsterdam.' The guy was 400 years and looked 30.
I am Duncan MacLeod, born four hundred years ago in the Highlands of Scotland. I am Immortal and I am not alone. For centuries we have waited for the time of the Gathering, when the stroke of a sword and the fall of a head will release the power of the Quickening. In the end, there can be only one.
Originally Posted By: andrewg
And people have been saying exactly the same thing you've said. But the fact is...our culture is quickly deteriorating. Morals change...but the basics are constant. We've become far more immoral. Same thing with ethics. Honesty....integrity...taking care of family. Responsibility. Accountability. Respect for your neighbor. Respect for marriage. Manners. Work ethics. Social etiquette. I could go on and cite examples...but I have a feeling that you, and many others, would be defending modern culture and have an opposite view....yet the further down the toilet our nation tumbles.
I believe that you feel the current culture is deteriorating is an opinion, not a fact. Those items you cite could be more to do with living in a bad neighborhood than society in general. If you look at the FACTS, crime is way down. Remember guys like Al Capone, Machine gun Kelly, etc? It was a lot more brutal and common in the past. Now we just get mass shootings every few months.
You may just be depressed.
You should see a doctor about that, they've got plenty of different kinds of drugs these days.
And people have been saying exactly the same thing you've said. But the fact is...our culture is quickly deteriorating. Morals change...but the basics are constant. We've become far more immoral. Same thing with ethics. Honesty....integrity...taking care of family. Responsibility. Accountability. Respect for your neighbor. Respect for marriage. Manners. Work ethics. Social etiquette. I could go on and cite examples...but I have a feeling that you, and many others, would be defending modern culture and have an opposite view....yet the further down the toilet our nation tumbles.
I believe that you feel the current culture is deteriorating is an opinion, not a fact. Those items you cite could be more to do with living in a bad neighborhood than society in general. If you look at the FACTS, crime is way down. Remember guys like Al Capone, Machine gun Kelly, etc? It was a lot more brutal and common in the past. Now we just get mass shootings every few months.
You may just be depressed.
You should see a doctor about that, they've got plenty of different kinds of drugs these days.
We may be talking about the same things, so your choice of word may have been appropriate.
I look at our business leaders standing up for the pursuit of more dollars without any social or national considerations, our political leaders trading service to those who finance their campaigns for that financing while pandering to the voters, some religious leaders from all denominations preaching hatred and exclusion along with the lowest common denominator garbage that is our popular culture, including what passes for serious programming and I wonder what has happened to our shared notions of morality.
It's as though all of us, beginning with our elites, have forgotten that there really is a definable right and wrong and that this ins't all a matter of personal belief or opinion.
One way or another, this will all be worked out.
Whether any of what we now know as civilization survives to come out the other side remains to be seen, but man will still populate this planet for many millennia to come, of that you can be sure.
I look at our business leaders standing up for the pursuit of more dollars without any social or national considerations, our political leaders trading service to those who finance their campaigns for that financing while pandering to the voters, some religious leaders from all denominations preaching hatred and exclusion along with the lowest common denominator garbage that is our popular culture, including what passes for serious programming and I wonder what has happened to our shared notions of morality.
It's as though all of us, beginning with our elites, have forgotten that there really is a definable right and wrong and that this ins't all a matter of personal belief or opinion.
One way or another, this will all be worked out.
Whether any of what we now know as civilization survives to come out the other side remains to be seen, but man will still populate this planet for many millennia to come, of that you can be sure.
Originally Posted By: Wolf359
Originally Posted By: andrewg
And people have been saying exactly the same thing you've said. But the fact is...our culture is quickly deteriorating. Morals change...but the basics are constant. We've become far more immoral. Same thing with ethics. Honesty....integrity...taking care of family. Responsibility. Accountability. Respect for your neighbor. Respect for marriage. Manners. Work ethics. Social etiquette. I could go on and cite examples...but I have a feeling that you, and many others, would be defending modern culture and have an opposite view....yet the further down the toilet our nation tumbles.
I believe that you feel the current culture is deteriorating is an opinion, not a fact. Those items you cite could be more to do with living in a bad neighborhood than society in general. If you look at the FACTS, crime is way down. Remember guys like Al Capone, Machine gun Kelly, etc? It was a lot more brutal and common in the past. Now we just get mass shootings every few months.
You may just be depressed.
You should see a doctor about that, they've got plenty of different kinds of drugs these days.
I don't know what society you live in where you do don't see what andrewg described. You don't have to live in a bad neighborhood to see it, it's present everywhere...
Originally Posted By: andrewg
And people have been saying exactly the same thing you've said. But the fact is...our culture is quickly deteriorating. Morals change...but the basics are constant. We've become far more immoral. Same thing with ethics. Honesty....integrity...taking care of family. Responsibility. Accountability. Respect for your neighbor. Respect for marriage. Manners. Work ethics. Social etiquette. I could go on and cite examples...but I have a feeling that you, and many others, would be defending modern culture and have an opposite view....yet the further down the toilet our nation tumbles.
I believe that you feel the current culture is deteriorating is an opinion, not a fact. Those items you cite could be more to do with living in a bad neighborhood than society in general. If you look at the FACTS, crime is way down. Remember guys like Al Capone, Machine gun Kelly, etc? It was a lot more brutal and common in the past. Now we just get mass shootings every few months.
You may just be depressed.
You should see a doctor about that, they've got plenty of different kinds of drugs these days.
I don't know what society you live in where you do don't see what andrewg described. You don't have to live in a bad neighborhood to see it, it's present everywhere...
Originally Posted By: fdcg27
We may be talking about the same things, so your choice of word may have been appropriate.
I look at our business leaders standing up for the pursuit of more dollars without any social or national considerations, our political leaders trading service to those who finance their campaigns for that financing while pandering to the voters, some religious leaders from all denominations preaching hatred and exclusion along with the lowest common denominator garbage that is our popular culture, including what passes for serious programming and I wonder what has happened to our shared notions of morality.
It's as though all of us, beginning with our elites, have forgotten that there really is a definable right and wrong and that this ins't all a matter of personal belief or opinion.
One way or another, this will all be worked out.
Whether any of what we now know as civilization survives to come out the other side remains to be seen, but man will still populate this planet for many millennia to come, of that you can be sure.
Yes...good post and I agree.
We may be talking about the same things, so your choice of word may have been appropriate.
I look at our business leaders standing up for the pursuit of more dollars without any social or national considerations, our political leaders trading service to those who finance their campaigns for that financing while pandering to the voters, some religious leaders from all denominations preaching hatred and exclusion along with the lowest common denominator garbage that is our popular culture, including what passes for serious programming and I wonder what has happened to our shared notions of morality.
It's as though all of us, beginning with our elites, have forgotten that there really is a definable right and wrong and that this ins't all a matter of personal belief or opinion.
One way or another, this will all be worked out.
Whether any of what we now know as civilization survives to come out the other side remains to be seen, but man will still populate this planet for many millennia to come, of that you can be sure.
Yes...good post and I agree.
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Originally Posted By: Jetronic
I think I could've gone on forever while I was in kindergarten
This.
If I could stay in that time period indefinitely,I'd want to live forever. Having your parents and your entire family staying that same age they were when I was in kindergarten.
I think I could've gone on forever while I was in kindergarten
This.
If I could stay in that time period indefinitely,I'd want to live forever. Having your parents and your entire family staying that same age they were when I was in kindergarten.
Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: Wolf359
Originally Posted By: andrewg
And people have been saying exactly the same thing you've said. But the fact is...our culture is quickly deteriorating. Morals change...but the basics are constant. We've become far more immoral. Same thing with ethics. Honesty....integrity...taking care of family. Responsibility. Accountability. Respect for your neighbor. Respect for marriage. Manners. Work ethics. Social etiquette. I could go on and cite examples...but I have a feeling that you, and many others, would be defending modern culture and have an opposite view....yet the further down the toilet our nation tumbles.
I believe that you feel the current culture is deteriorating is an opinion, not a fact. Those items you cite could be more to do with living in a bad neighborhood than society in general. If you look at the FACTS, crime is way down. Remember guys like Al Capone, Machine gun Kelly, etc? It was a lot more brutal and common in the past. Now we just get mass shootings every few months.
You may just be depressed.
You should see a doctor about that, they've got plenty of different kinds of drugs these days.
I don't know what society you live in where you do don't see what andrewg described. You don't have to live in a bad neighborhood to see it, it's present everywhere...
Thank you grampi!
I kind of figured that response. It's very common for those not able to see cultural decline. While others feel it is an opinion....it is highly obvious to even a casual observer of cultural habits that we've become horribly rude, discourteous, and generally nasty toward one another. I don't live in a slum either. But yes, the behaviors of my neighbors is trending that way because they see others all around them doing the same. It's like an infection. I can list...daily...the things that I see people doing around me, when I am at work or play....that you would have rarely seen thirty or more years ago.
It's just incredible that anybody today would think we are a more civil and cultured society than a few decades ago. It's frustrating that when you talk about our societal problems today, many respond with the "crime is down" mantra. Some violent crimes are...but petty crimes and unreported crimes are WAY up.
It's really something though that I get told to get on medication because I sound depressed. I guess I'm not supposed to express what I have observed in the past few decades unless it's something positive. Drugs to make you happy is the norm today.
Insulting really.
Originally Posted By: Wolf359
Originally Posted By: andrewg
And people have been saying exactly the same thing you've said. But the fact is...our culture is quickly deteriorating. Morals change...but the basics are constant. We've become far more immoral. Same thing with ethics. Honesty....integrity...taking care of family. Responsibility. Accountability. Respect for your neighbor. Respect for marriage. Manners. Work ethics. Social etiquette. I could go on and cite examples...but I have a feeling that you, and many others, would be defending modern culture and have an opposite view....yet the further down the toilet our nation tumbles.
I believe that you feel the current culture is deteriorating is an opinion, not a fact. Those items you cite could be more to do with living in a bad neighborhood than society in general. If you look at the FACTS, crime is way down. Remember guys like Al Capone, Machine gun Kelly, etc? It was a lot more brutal and common in the past. Now we just get mass shootings every few months.
You may just be depressed.
You should see a doctor about that, they've got plenty of different kinds of drugs these days.
I don't know what society you live in where you do don't see what andrewg described. You don't have to live in a bad neighborhood to see it, it's present everywhere...
Thank you grampi!
I kind of figured that response. It's very common for those not able to see cultural decline. While others feel it is an opinion....it is highly obvious to even a casual observer of cultural habits that we've become horribly rude, discourteous, and generally nasty toward one another. I don't live in a slum either. But yes, the behaviors of my neighbors is trending that way because they see others all around them doing the same. It's like an infection. I can list...daily...the things that I see people doing around me, when I am at work or play....that you would have rarely seen thirty or more years ago.
It's just incredible that anybody today would think we are a more civil and cultured society than a few decades ago. It's frustrating that when you talk about our societal problems today, many respond with the "crime is down" mantra. Some violent crimes are...but petty crimes and unreported crimes are WAY up.
It's really something though that I get told to get on medication because I sound depressed. I guess I'm not supposed to express what I have observed in the past few decades unless it's something positive. Drugs to make you happy is the norm today.
Insulting really.
Originally Posted By: 285south
I am Duncan MacLeod, born four hundred years ago in the Highlands of Scotland. I am Immortal and I am not alone. For centuries we have waited for the time of the Gathering, when the stroke of a sword and the fall of a head will release the power of the Quickening. In the end, there can be only one.
That's a coincidence...did you ever meet Connor McLeod...sounds like you could have been related.
I am Duncan MacLeod, born four hundred years ago in the Highlands of Scotland. I am Immortal and I am not alone. For centuries we have waited for the time of the Gathering, when the stroke of a sword and the fall of a head will release the power of the Quickening. In the end, there can be only one.
That's a coincidence...did you ever meet Connor McLeod...sounds like you could have been related.
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