I want a diesel !

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For the most part we Americans are not allowed diesels. The environment police have figured out that diesels are bad for the air we breathe...

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Well, you can always move to Europe.

Sure, you might be able to get your diesel, but you'll have far more stringent environmental rules and automotive laws to deal with. Do want to pay their prices for gas, oil and maintenance? What about super-thorough government-mandated vehicle inspections? Car tabs (taxes) that go UP as your vehicle gets older? Car tabs (taxes) based upon engine displacement? How about not being able to wash your car in your own driveway? How about having to pay to recycle your old oil?

That last one would kill BITOG off...

Yeah, it sucks we can't get diesels because of environmental laws and diesel fuel quality issues. However, I don't think anybody would trade for all those things I listed earlier just to get access the "good" diesel engines...
 
Got two diesels in our family. My wife once drove a gasser rental and had trouble understanding why it was so SLOW. She'll probably never go back to gasoline. She absolutely loves the noise her 2.8Liter diesel makes in her Jeep. She also has gotten into the habit of smoking out tailgators. Unfortunately, it takes a while of easy driving for soot to build up in the turbo vanes. Mrs. Leadfood loves the kick in the pants a diesel gives when the "gas" pedal is firmly depressed.
 
The last time I was in Germany I rented a Golf diesel. What a hoot to drive! It was extremely torquey and had no problems keeping up with autobahn traffic. The only problem I had was remembering to wait for the glow plug light to turn on (off?). I don't think I ever waited, I just got in and turned the starter just like a gasser, and it never failed to start, even when the temps were freezing and just below.

The next month, we sent a co-worker over who "had" to drive the Mercedes diesel the rental car company gave him. That lasted for a week-and-a-half until he filled it with gas. They had to come tow it away, and replaced it with a gas Opel Astra. Since then, he has become "Doktor Diesel".
 
I am so used to driving a diesel, that every vehicle I get in now, I turn the key, pause at on, remember I'm in a gas vehicle and then proceed to crank the starter. Plus that pause before crank lets me listen to any pumps that are running before starting and a quick scan of the guages and lights to see if anything is different and are working.
 
Sure, you might be able to get your diesel, but you'll have far more stringent environmental rules and automotive laws to deal with. Do want to pay their prices for gas, oil and maintenance? What about super-thorough government-mandated vehicle inspections? Car tabs (taxes) that go UP as your vehicle gets older? Car tabs (taxes) based upon engine displacement? How about not being able to wash your car in your own driveway? How about having to pay to recycle your old oil?

Is this really true? As I said before I just move here so I’m not very familiar yet with all the rules. If so, this strikes me because how many times do we drive behind an old vehicle and you can smell the un-burnt gas or black smoke?
 
And if I could spell "Europe" properly, I'd be much better off...
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I do too,I just dont want to get gouged for the xtra 8k plus pay more for fuel so I can get 4 more mpg so that in 460k it will have paid for itself.People in US dont like to have gas cars fixed,so when their diesel doesnt start at 20degrees because they havent changed filters in 3 years they wont be happy.Factor in all the new EGR and particulate filters and the dollars just keep piling up.Interestingly enough,the only pollutant you get from a diesel is NOX and particulate.You can incinerate the particulate by raising combustion chamber temp to 2500 degrees,but nox goes off the scale.Europeons{yup} fix this by injecting ureaic acid downstream of the exhaust.Its cheap and easy,so of course the EPA wont allow it.So when we invade yourope,if you see a frenchman whizzing in his puegot,hes not angry with it,he's just maintaining the emmisions systems on his vehicle.
 
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Europeons{yup} fix this by injecting ureaic acid downstream of the exhaust.Its cheap and easy,so of course the EPA wont allow it.

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I think that some of the diesel models Mercedes will be selling in 2008 will use urea injection. The "Adblue" system, I think it is. Guess they snuck it by the EPA.

What is interesting to see is that automakers are adapting to the very stringent emissions regulations we have in place now. Set a high standard and they will comply. I'm only sorry it has taken so long to set these standards.

Europeons, now that's clever.
 
hadnt heard about the cars,but i know mercedes heavy duty diesels are going to EGR,because of EPEE-A restrictions of the proven ureaic acid injection.Hopefully they can get this system passed for all diesel engines,since the particulate filter system on mercedes new engines looks to be an expensive nightmare.Maybe if #1 cleans up a diesel,maybe someone can get one to run on #2?The only thing you would need for a fillup is a twelve pack and a couple of big macs!!
 
Just heard today that there will be a forty dollar rebate from the government here on all registrations for non-commercial diesel vehicles. It will take effect the next time that a vehicle is re-newed. It will also continue indefinitely. Looks better in my arse pocket than theirs...

John.
 
Two in the family here. After several years of driving/riding in my Dodge diesel truck the wife said she wanted a diesel car. She didn't like the Jetta so she got a Mercedes E320 CDI. Truck: 23mpg, car: 31mpg. Ed B
 
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Is that 'Benz the Bluetec diesel?

Consumer reports trashing any and everything Mercedes (reliability wise) aside, if I bought a diesel engined car, I believe I'd give that Bluetec diesel a try.

Nothing from VW (reliability and dealer service particularly) has any appeal whatsoever.
 
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Just heard today that there will be a forty dollar rebate from the government here on all registrations for non-commercial diesel vehicles. It will take effect the next time that a vehicle is re-newed. It will also continue indefinitely. Looks better in my arse pocket than theirs...

John.

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The big problem is they take way more than you can get back.
 
The 2005 and 2006 Jeep CRDs are a great little 4x4 Diesel. They easily get 20+ city and 25+ highway. I have actually gone 30+ highway at 68 mph in rolling terrain in the summer. They only made 11,200 or so of them but you can find a few on ebay sometimes. Once fuel cost go to $4 a gallon this summer, these will be a nice catch! If you have any questions about the CRDs you can go to www.LOSTKJs.com and join the forum. There is a CRD Section that is very active there.
 
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