So are you saying the engine stutters after you start it, like it's misfiring, or do you mean it cranks slowly? If it isn't cranking slowly it's neither the battery nor the oil.
How much of a difference does engine oil make....
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Originally Posted By: Carnoobie
Plus its bad constantly switching to different brands.
My cars never get two oil changes in a row with the same brand, and I haven't had any problems.
I think you may be misinterpreting something you read here or you're believing an old wives' tale.
Plus its bad constantly switching to different brands.
My cars never get two oil changes in a row with the same brand, and I haven't had any problems.
I think you may be misinterpreting something you read here or you're believing an old wives' tale.
Of course thinner oil is best for cold starts.
Stuttering and slow starting is another problem.
Probably tune up stuff - there are a lot of players here.
Stuttering and slow starting is another problem.
Probably tune up stuff - there are a lot of players here.
Originally Posted By: Scott_Tucker
So are you saying the engine stutters after you start it, like it's misfiring, or do you mean it cranks slowly? If it isn't cranking slowly it's neither the battery nor the oil.
I wouldnt say its misfiring but cranks slowly. I know the easiest, less hassle way is to put in another battery but the place i bought it at, wont replace it under warranty if the load tests were fine.
Going to clean the battery cables and terminals right now and get the starter tested.
So are you saying the engine stutters after you start it, like it's misfiring, or do you mean it cranks slowly? If it isn't cranking slowly it's neither the battery nor the oil.
I wouldnt say its misfiring but cranks slowly. I know the easiest, less hassle way is to put in another battery but the place i bought it at, wont replace it under warranty if the load tests were fine.
Going to clean the battery cables and terminals right now and get the starter tested.
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In the winter I notice a huge difference in engine cranking speed when using synthetic vs a conventional, even of the same weight.
Put two diesel engines side by side, one with regular 15w40, one with say Amsoil synthetic, and the synthetic one will crank faster and build pressure faster. With a marginal motor it can sometimes mean the difference between it starting and not.
Put two diesel engines side by side, one with regular 15w40, one with say Amsoil synthetic, and the synthetic one will crank faster and build pressure faster. With a marginal motor it can sometimes mean the difference between it starting and not.
No he said he changed FROM 5w30 to Castrol GTX HM, the reason Skyship may have assumed 15w40 is that is the most common viscosity of GTX in Europe.
It is a very basic mineral oil as far as Europe is concerned and not much cheaper than 10w40 Magnatec semi synth and 5w30 Magnatec full synth oils, there may be a 10w40 full synth but can't remember off hand.
It is a very basic mineral oil as far as Europe is concerned and not much cheaper than 10w40 Magnatec semi synth and 5w30 Magnatec full synth oils, there may be a 10w40 full synth but can't remember off hand.
The shop says because the engine is turning over when turning the ignition, its not electrical so cant be the starter.
Cleaned the battery terms and cables werent corroded, very clean already.
Guy said its most likely water condensation in the fuel tank so he put some gas line antifreeze in. Said to try it for 1 tank then put in another and if still happens go back.
Cleaned the battery terms and cables werent corroded, very clean already.
Guy said its most likely water condensation in the fuel tank so he put some gas line antifreeze in. Said to try it for 1 tank then put in another and if still happens go back.
Originally Posted By: hemitom
Well if its not turning over fast enough thats a big problem with cold weather approaching. Condensation in the fuel will not cause slow cranking.
I say the shop is full of SH-T.
He said it has to do with water condensation and thats why he threw in 1 bottle of Gas line antifreeze. He said also, its normal and just has to do with the engine aging.
Isnt Gas line antifreeze Methonal alcohol? Isnt that suppose to be bad for your fuel lines and fuel pump?
When below 0 and car is cold, it takes 1-2 secs slow cranking to start up.
The guy said if its starter, then the engine wouldnt turn over.
Well if its not turning over fast enough thats a big problem with cold weather approaching. Condensation in the fuel will not cause slow cranking.
I say the shop is full of SH-T.
He said it has to do with water condensation and thats why he threw in 1 bottle of Gas line antifreeze. He said also, its normal and just has to do with the engine aging.
Isnt Gas line antifreeze Methonal alcohol? Isnt that suppose to be bad for your fuel lines and fuel pump?
When below 0 and car is cold, it takes 1-2 secs slow cranking to start up.
The guy said if its starter, then the engine wouldnt turn over.
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Originally Posted By: hemitom
If you haven't already ! check the connections at the starter as well.
How do i do this? Its for 03 civic. Was told the starter is under the airbox and looks like 2 black cylinders about size of coke can. So if i do a starter test, does the car have to be cold (when the problem only happens?) and not hot? cause thats what they told me.
If you haven't already ! check the connections at the starter as well.
How do i do this? Its for 03 civic. Was told the starter is under the airbox and looks like 2 black cylinders about size of coke can. So if i do a starter test, does the car have to be cold (when the problem only happens?) and not hot? cause thats what they told me.
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Originally Posted By: hemitom
I'm not saying it's the starter, but the guy is wrong in saying it would not turn over if the starter was bad. if the starter motor is going out on you it can fail in different ways.
Are you sure?
This guy says it too (watch first 35 secs)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mKrx-fMi_8&feature=related\
Just to make sure what does it sound like when the engine is turning over?
I'm not saying it's the starter, but the guy is wrong in saying it would not turn over if the starter was bad. if the starter motor is going out on you it can fail in different ways.
Are you sure?
This guy says it too (watch first 35 secs)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mKrx-fMi_8&feature=related\
Just to make sure what does it sound like when the engine is turning over?
Take a video of the starting process next cold morning.
He is right on that part the starter would do it all the time, if its worse as it gets cold the battery is most likely failing. But a starter that is drawing to many amps on cranking will DEFINITELY crank slower this is usually caused by a bad starter motor.
The battery needs to be checked under the conditions you are complaining about. If they test it after its been sitting in a hot engine compartment, the test is invalid. Which means you need to leave the car with the mechanic overnight.
Originally Posted By: hemitom
He is right on that part the starter would do it all the time, if its worse as it gets cold the battery is most likely failing. But a starter that is drawing to many amps on cranking will DEFINITELY crank slower this is usually caused by a bad starter motor.
So could be the starter still? Well i sure hope not. If the battery cant supply enough power to the cold start, that would cause slow cranking right?
He is right on that part the starter would do it all the time, if its worse as it gets cold the battery is most likely failing. But a starter that is drawing to many amps on cranking will DEFINITELY crank slower this is usually caused by a bad starter motor.
So could be the starter still? Well i sure hope not. If the battery cant supply enough power to the cold start, that would cause slow cranking right?
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