How many actually follow the OLM on new Honda?

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I have an '09 Honda CR-V and I'm trying to find out if I'm going to follow the OLM now. I am on my 2nd OC and I am at 17000 miles and at 30% on OLM.
The first change I did at 30% and was at 8,488 miles. I changed the FF with Castrol Syntec and a P1 Filter.
I have 1 more change of that, and then I have some M1 5W-20 and a M1 EP Filter, and then I have 3 changes of M1 0W-20 and P1 Filters.
I wanted to see how many people were actually following the OLM for OC.
I know to keep track of all the other codes that come up, but I was interested to see what milage or percentage on the OLM people were changing at. Thanks!
 
We changed it at 40% with 8800 miles on the oil this past change since it was a nice day out, and we didn't want to change it during the middle of winter. In the past we've run it right down to having the light come on at 15%, or ~11k miles of mixed city/highway driving. It's seen PYB 5w-20, PP 5w-20, and the last and current fill have been M1 0w-20. It seems to like the M1 the best out of all those oils.
 
It gets pretty annoying under 20%. I applaud anyone who can stare at a light on the dash for the last 15% and not do anything about it.
 
I have wondered the same question. My wife's CRV is an 09 as well. I left the factory fill in until about 9k and the dealership changed it. I changed that at about 16000 to amsoil.

I cannot understand how Honda expects to run a conventional oil for 8-10000 miles. I will only put a synthetic in to run at those intervals
 
Those Honda engineers will figure it out someday .....
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Those pesky Honda engineers know how to design their engines but don't know how to do maintenance. If you use dino to 8-10k OCI, those engines will self destruct right after warranty.
 
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Those pesky Honda engineers know how to design their engines but don't know how to do maintenance. If you use dino to 8-10k OCI, those engines will self destruct right after warranty.


I'm pretty sure that's a facetious comment, but in case it's not, it's flat wrong.

Honda, known for decades for reliability, is going to stake their reputation on an oil change interval? The "modern engines, modern oils" argument keeps getting extended. Now even a 6000 mile OCI seems preposterously short when current cars and motor oils can easily last far beyond that with no apparent ill effects. Where is the evidence that 10000 miles is too long?
 
Hi.

I'm actually a Honda engineer. I work in motorsports and performance development.

I will refrain from saying anything that may affect the company, because I do not speak for them.

However, the oil life meter like anything, simply helps to remind people. Realize that 95% of the people that drive do not go on to this web site, or peruse forums asking about oils and oil change intervals. Most do not even do their own oil changes. Even more, there are some dealerships giving free oil changes for whomever purchases a Honda. And so, it's plausible to believe that most people do not realize when they need to change their oil.

Honda is based on efficiency. We advertise that. The less resources are consumed, the easier it is on the environment, on the wallet, and on the government that regulates the company. We design our cars to fit that image too. There are engineers like me who spend thousands of hours designing an engine. It's safe to say we know what's going on. The engine is a system designed around supplementing oil life.

Honda has not had sludge problems like several other automakers have been plagued with. Although bad habits are inevitably part of the equation as well, people that drive Hondas can be expected to share the same bad habits as well (such as extending an oil change in severe service)

The oil life meter is simply a reminder for those that do not change their oil, are not familiar with it, etc etc. And it's designed around the driving habits of most people. Believe me, although I do not work on the consumer products that are sold to you, the engineers have done their homework too. Plenty of city driving, stop and go, extensive idling, short trips, etc (conditions deemed severe service) are taken into account when designing this system. After all, we've been putting them into our vehicles for several years now and the engines have always been functioning great.

However, like I said, it's for most people. Of course, there will always be those outliers...like a bell curve. It's safe to say that some outliers know when to change their oil because they have the experience, interest, and know how...to do. So, we will leave that up to you to do what you think is best...whether it be 500 miles, 1500, 2000, etc etc oil change intervals. It's up to you.

One system can't be for everyone. But it's designed for the mass market - for most people.

As far as oil change intervals are concerned, Rizzo is right. Just because we are used to 3000 miles oil change, 5000, 7500, 10000, etc...what makes that "number" sound good? Or is it because that a lot of people have been voicing those numbers which is why we believe those numbers are numbers to follow? I don't know. But, the most important thing is driving conditions. Oils are so well designed now, and engines are so well designed now, that these "old" numbers can be replaced by the "new" ones.

But you should do what feels best for you, regardless of the oil life meter. You spent lots of money on a car...what's an extra 12 bucks or so going to hurt? After all, fresh oil is always good. But from a manufacturer's standpoint, take a step back and look.

We're not stupid haha. Honda has a reputation for building quality vehicles, although we are not perfect. Everyone's got their problems. Why would we risk that reputation on something like an oil life meter, without doing our homework right?

Sorry for the essay, but that's what I have to say.

I drive a Toyota 4x4 Tacoma V6, Acura NSX, and Kawasaki ZX-10R. Obviously the only Honda car I own is an NSX. Not because I don't like our cars, it's just that truck is my daily driver, the NSX has always been one of my favorites since a kid, and well the Ninja is a wild thing that feels like it's going to explode at any speed UNDER 75 mph. hahaha

have fun
 
I'm sure Dino oil can last for the full OCI Honda set in the MM (Maintenance Minder) but it will be right at the end of its life, if not over it.

For piece of mind, i use synthetic oil.

In my 07 Civic EX the MM comes on at 6-7k on average. I've pushed the OCI to 10k with good UOA results. I don't know how dino would have looked after 10k.
 
^^Great post dtt004^^

I am so glad you asked this question as I have been wondering the exact same thing. I have owned SEVERAL Hondas over the years. I currently drive an 2010 Civic LX. I changed the FF at 5,750 miles and the OLM was at 40%. 2nd change was at 11,917 miles and once again, the OLM was at 40%. Based on my driving habits (lots of highway miles), I'm guessing I could go 10,000+ miles before it would get to 0% but I don't want to go that long. For me, I'll go 7,000-8,000 miles regardless of what the OLM says.
 
The OLM is annoying past 15% since it will always come on, every time the car is started.

Honda recommends you change the oil at 15%
 
I bought a new 08 civic lx almost three years ago and that OLM had me baffled too. With every vehicle I've ever owned, I've run non synthetic oil and changed it every 3000 miles to be sure I was safe no matter what kind of driving I did. I was very surprised at the percentage I had left at the 3000 mile mark. Again, I was surprised at the percentage it said I had left at the 5000 mile mark. At this point I was getting nervous and couldn't take it anymore! So, I've made it a point with this car to change it at the 5000 mile mark. Thats what I feel comfortable with and I feel confident with it. Easy to keep up with too..5,10,15,20...Now, as a side note, I have a 2005 ford explorer that I also bought new and change every 3000. The oil in the explorer is MUCH darker when I change it than it is in the civic...same oil, sometimes different fiter. Who knows maybe Honda knows a thing or two about how to put these things together.
 
I follow the OLM in my '06 Odyssey, up until 7500 miles. I won't go over that. Usually, the OLM has 20% left at that time, so no warning lights yet. BTW, using name brand synthetics.
 
I double the OLM on the 2006 Odyssey. First time it alarms at 15% (~7K miles) I just simply reset it. Second time, then I typically change the oil. Once or twice I have gone and reset it 2X. I use a good synthetic oil. My drivetrain warranty expired unused due to time/miles. The engine is clean. And the Honda man didn't show up at our door and chew me out!!
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I change our Pilot when the OLM gets to 15%, that is usually between 6,000 to 7,500 miles. If Honda feels this is OK, I'm good with that. They designed the engine and the OLM
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I drive a 08 civic. I drive from 500' above sea level to 4300' everyday for work. Mtn roads. I use Mobil-1. I decided to wait to see how long it would take the meter to reach 0%. I reached it at 60000, which is about when I normally change my mobil-1. If I was used conventional oil, I would be changing a lot sooner.
 
The funny thing to me about people who refuse to go beyond xyz mileage regardless of what the OLM or an engineer says is that these same guys probably think their wives can be irrational and the government spends too much money. But follow an OLM because it's logical and saves money? No way man, that's for suckers! It's ridiculous.
 
My '08 CR-V has been clocking around 9-10,000 miles before it gets to 15%. First oil change happened at 10,040 miles.
 
I've ran my 07 Civic EX down to -2k once. It was quite annoying looking at the freakin service wrench for 3,000 miles
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With my driving style and conditions, it usually trips @ 7k with 15%

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