How about the real poop on Auto-RX use?

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Well we all just found out that we are not suppose to use Castrol GTX with Auto-RX. Any other Dino Oils out there that we are not to use with Auto-RX? I bought a case of GTX to do my Auto-RX treatment only to find it is unusable in this application. Can I at least use the Castrol GTX in the cleaning phase? I'm planning on starting this application on Tuesday afternoon so the reason for this post.
I wonder how many marginal results or poor results can be attributed to this recent revelation concerning GTX?
My other question is if my engine (2.9 liter 24 valve I6) holds 5.9 quarts of oil do I put in 5 quarts of oil and the bottle of Auto-RX bringing the total to 5.9. Or do I dump the Auto-RX in 5.9 quarts of new oil? The reason for the question is the instructions say Pour 12 full ounces of Auto-Rx® into your existing oil.

There is a ring on the oil dip stick making note NOT TO exceed the factory recommended amount of oil in the crank case.
 
Use GTX. Limit use of oils that have a high quantity of esters. Castrol Magnetec or start up oil was the questioned brand names of the same formulator.

All the hand wringing is wasted hyperventilating.

I personally use whatever I want.

To ask that Frank qualify every motor oil and the myriads of changes in formulations is unreasonable.

ALS if you add a new oil filter as the instructions suggest then overfill of 12 ounces is not a problem.

Take a deep breath and relax, the stuff is effective and works.
 
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Originally posted by Terry:

To ask that Frank qualify every motor oil and the myriads of changes in formulations is unreasonable.


True, but a short list of 'Yes' and 'No' oils packaged with the product would be very helpful.

Gary
 
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Originally posted by medic:
Did I miss something? Why is Castrol GTX questionable with the use of Auto-RX? Is there a link to this topic?

I second that. And furthermore, seems like most SM oils are going to be semi-synthetic like the Trop-Artic 10w30 (blazened across the label) that I just poured in the Buick. Sounds like you'll be limited to a fleet oil (15W-40) in the summer months for a AutoRx treatment soon.
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Originally posted by medic:
Did I miss something? Why is Castrol GTX questionable with the use of Auto-RX? Is there a link to this topic?

Read the whole thread:
http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=5;t=003258

From Franks responce:
Castro GTX has changed's it's formula and now is GTX Magnatec (meaning it's additive package is polarized to cling to metal) and will not let you flush away your liquified "crud"easily hence your frustration.
 
ALS your a rational thinker thank you for your last post.What is really the problem? rinse again with
chevron-delco-valvoline oils ask for product with simple additive package all is well.
 
I had great results in mine using Singapore Castrol GTX.

The Singapore Castrol website still shows Castrol Magnetec available as a different oil. But it's quite obvious from the USA Castrol website, that they have renamed the Castrol Magnetec to GTX Startup.
 
Granted, not everyone is well versed about engine oils, and even those that are here at the site seem to have not known or missed that little tid bit of info about what oils should and shouldn't be used.

I for one haven't used Auto Rx, and thus am not familiar with the instruction layout. I do feel however that customes that intend to use the stated product would wish to use it in the most effective manor. The customer gets result that are inline with promoted points, and the business owner gains another satisfied customer as well as free advertising via word of mouth.

For the sake of good business practice, I think it would be in the best interest of the business man to keep the users informed as other perameters change, such as with Castrol's oil formulations. How this is to be done in layman's terms I can't be sure. Why not sell the customer an oil that best compliments the Auto Rx treatment along with their purchase of Auto Rx? Just a thought I leave for you to do with as you please.
 
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Originally posted by rg144:
I second that. And furthermore, seems like most SM oils are going to be semi-synthetic like the Trop-Artic 10w30 (blazened across the label) that I just poured in the Buick. Sounds like you'll be limited to a fleet oil (15W-40) in the summer months for a AutoRx treatment soon.
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No, I don't think so because how many of those semi-synthetic oils contain esters? Likely, very few. Most of what is sold as "semi-synthetic" simply contains Group III base oil, which (correct me if I'm wrong) is not an ester and therefore does not affect Auto-Rx in a negative manner.
 
Photos in below string shows liquefied "crud' all over the metal.The application was done assuming that the rinse oil used was a dino oil with a simple additive package.It makes no difference what oil you use to clean with. Auto-Rx has oil sales people as customers and maintains it is the customers responsibility to do the research necessary to select an oil. Auto-Rx consistently answers every e-mail received if there is a question. Our mission is to make your engine perform better by being clean and to that end this is no shortage of qualified information on www.auto-rx.com Regarding oil selections customer can rectify this whole problem by doing another rinse using one of these 3 oil's (there are more) Chevron Supreme Haviland-Valvoline 10-30wt.or10-40wt. just ask for non synthetic oil with simple additive package. It is widely acknowledged our customer service is fast-professional and factual.

[ May 23, 2005, 06:35 AM: Message edited by: Frank ]
 
All this business of using an oil with no or few esters is the #1 reason why Auto-Rx is not retail-marketable. Oil formulations change all the time; they're a mysterious thing, oil forumulations. In fact, oil companies largely don't care to share with us what's in their formulations, i.e. ester content. Is there any? How much? Is "dino" still "dino" by Auto-Rx definitions if it contains any esters? Some esters? a small percentage of esters? A large percentage of esters? Does anyone really know? Instead of giving us vague ideas about avoiding oil with esters that will "compete for space" on metal in our engines, Auto-Rx would be better served to simply acknowlege that they, and we, do not and cannot know precisely which particular oils are optimum for use with Auto-Rx, and then develop an application that will work with any oil. (And if that's already the case, and we all "just need to relax," then everyone - including Frank and company - should stop pointing to specific brands as being appropriate or inappropriate for Auto-Rx applications.)
 
Kev your absoulutely correct. Auto-Rx is testing "all oils"and you can bet (since we just went into our first retail account) that we have to solve the application ratio's of the multitude of oil's for the retail consumer.And bitog & forum members will get them first.

In the mean time if anyone has a question on what type of rinse oil to use e-mail me at: [email protected]

fixed email address only

[ May 23, 2005, 02:22 PM: Message edited by: 59 Vetteman ]
 
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Originally posted by Frank:
Kev your absoulutely correct. Auto-Rx is testing "all oils"and you can bet (since we just went into our first retail account) that we have to solve the application ratio's of the multitude of oil's for the retail consumer.And bitog & forum members will get them first.

In the mean time if anyone has a question on what type of rinse oil to use e-mail me at: [email protected]

fixed email address only


Excellent ...
 
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