OK, if you theorize that the brainsurgeon who styled the Aztec must certainly have been fired, but not executed, then he (she) must still be out there somewhere, doing something. Now we know where he found a new job, and what he's been doing. . .
Honda's New Pickup
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The Aztec is built in Mexico, it's true name is "Montezuma's Revenge".
American Indians get to scalp the white man in Casinos, Indians in Mexico (Aztecs) get to inflict unbearable ugliness on the white man with the Aztec.
It's only fair.
I can just hear the soccer moms now. Its sooo cute. Oh' sorry thats just my wife.
Just found this thread and have to chime in. Of course this truck is not meant to be used in the Texas oil fields, as ranch machine or a contractor tool. The Rideline is targeted at a very specific customer. If you have need for hauling cattle to market or pulling other huge trailers you have plenty of Rams and Silverados out there to do the job. This is not a pick'em up "cowboy" truck at all - and I know, I live in the Texas countryside.
No, the Ridgeline is not targeted in this direction but rather for the person who wants to ride in comfort and some luxury and has a need to payload items going to the dump now and then and trips to the nursery and hardware stores. The person the Ridgeline wants to impress is not the guy that tows a horse trailer but the one with a Ranger Bass Boat - that is the target.
What it does and how it does it is done better than any other "truck" in history. I say "truck" because it is much, much more than that. It is called "truck" only because that is where it best fits in terms of classification. Actually, it is so innovated that some auto critics have given it a new definition all of its own, "Transporter".
It has so impressed most of the experts at the auto publication houses that it has been named "Truck of the Year" by Motor Trend and is also the top ranking "truck" in Canada by one of their well respected publications. And this against trucks in the large-size catagory. The Ridgeline actually is a mid-size that should compete more with the likes of say a Dakota. Nonetheless, the Ridge more than held its own and beat the pants off the competition, and by a considerable margin.
No truck in history has passed the government safety tests with marks as high as the Ridgeline. The safety features alone are worth the price. The innovations are non-stop and far too numerous to list here. And let's face it - it is a Honda and the excellance of Honda vehicles and outstanding trade-in values should continue with this line as well.
Oh, and as far as looks are concerned, well, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. All I know is that more people have pulled up and smiled with a thumbs up in my first six months of owning this vehicle than in all the years I've owned my Dodge trucks.
All is not perfect of course, what is? But if you want a vehicle that tracks the road like a sports car, fits five with room to spare in a ride that feels like a Lincoln, is safer than any other "truck" in the world, and will still haul 5000 lbs with ease, then this is the vehicle for you.
No, the Ridgeline is not targeted in this direction but rather for the person who wants to ride in comfort and some luxury and has a need to payload items going to the dump now and then and trips to the nursery and hardware stores. The person the Ridgeline wants to impress is not the guy that tows a horse trailer but the one with a Ranger Bass Boat - that is the target.
What it does and how it does it is done better than any other "truck" in history. I say "truck" because it is much, much more than that. It is called "truck" only because that is where it best fits in terms of classification. Actually, it is so innovated that some auto critics have given it a new definition all of its own, "Transporter".
It has so impressed most of the experts at the auto publication houses that it has been named "Truck of the Year" by Motor Trend and is also the top ranking "truck" in Canada by one of their well respected publications. And this against trucks in the large-size catagory. The Ridgeline actually is a mid-size that should compete more with the likes of say a Dakota. Nonetheless, the Ridge more than held its own and beat the pants off the competition, and by a considerable margin.
No truck in history has passed the government safety tests with marks as high as the Ridgeline. The safety features alone are worth the price. The innovations are non-stop and far too numerous to list here. And let's face it - it is a Honda and the excellance of Honda vehicles and outstanding trade-in values should continue with this line as well.
Oh, and as far as looks are concerned, well, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. All I know is that more people have pulled up and smiled with a thumbs up in my first six months of owning this vehicle than in all the years I've owned my Dodge trucks.
All is not perfect of course, what is? But if you want a vehicle that tracks the road like a sports car, fits five with room to spare in a ride that feels like a Lincoln, is safer than any other "truck" in the world, and will still haul 5000 lbs with ease, then this is the vehicle for you.
It's kinda' interesting to see the different definitions of the word "truck" used by people. There's a big stretch of Interstate near here where it's posted repeatedly that "Trucks" are not allowed in the extreme left lane. Funny how all the F150/250/350, Extradition, Exploder, Suburban, Ram owners don't consider their vehicles "Trucks" when it's used in this context.
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Icon 1 posted January 12, 2005 03:03 PM Profile for srivett Jsharp:
"My old shop teacher told me about the time they put a NEW unibody jeep on a hoist. They had the doors open and it folded in half! This was probably 50 years ago but he hasn't begun to forget that one..."
There was no unibody Jeep 50 years ago.
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Icon 1 posted January 12, 2005 03:03 PM Profile for srivett Jsharp:
"My old shop teacher told me about the time they put a NEW unibody jeep on a hoist. They had the doors open and it folded in half! This was probably 50 years ago but he hasn't begun to forget that one..."
There was no unibody Jeep 50 years ago.
Yes, Honda has cut back production to protect the product. Many auto makers are cutting back on original estimates, especially those with trucks and Suvs. All these darn things are big and heavy and use a lot of gas and the popularity of this kind of vehicle is going down across the boards for that reason. But unlike the other manufacturer's, Honda would rather cut production (as they did their SUV models) than have huge "sales" and rebates and incentives that the consumer will pay for eventually at trade-in time.
As much as I like Honda cars and motorcycles, I just can't get behind the Ridgeline. It looks fine, has nice features but the bed is way too small (short) and it's way too expensive, IMO.
I was so excited when I first heard the announcement of a Honda pick-up. Darn. Might be a good one to buy used in a few years.
I prefer full-sized pick-ups anyway.
I was so excited when I first heard the announcement of a Honda pick-up. Darn. Might be a good one to buy used in a few years.
I prefer full-sized pick-ups anyway.
I am with paulo...
I was very excited to hear about the 'new' Honda truck... and then, darn.
Disappointing also in that how much it looks like the Chevy.
I can't say enough about my 05 Odyssey, but I am with most on this thread in that the RidgeLine just does not look like a 'truck'.
I was very excited to hear about the 'new' Honda truck... and then, darn.
Disappointing also in that how much it looks like the Chevy.
I can't say enough about my 05 Odyssey, but I am with most on this thread in that the RidgeLine just does not look like a 'truck'.
Ive rode in one while it was towing about 4,000 Ilbs felt like a dog,It had tremendous trouble climbing some hills here in E.Ky. It would be down to the floor and it would be averaging about 50mph. This is not a real truck its something for the office worker to say "Yeah Ive got a truck" and thats about it.
Interesting about the hills. Although I live in relatively flat Texas I know about driving through E.KY. I went to school at EKU in Richmond back in the 60s and travelled to Pikeville and beyond many times. Some members of the Ridgeline Owners Club forum have reported little problems with towing through the mountains in the west.
Agian, living in Texas I really can't say myself how this truck handles hills but one of the problems is that the Ridgeline is not offered in a v8 option as yet. Although the VTEC engine in the Ridgeline is torqued lower for towing, it is still only a v6. For some who live in the hills, that may not be enough.
Agian, living in Texas I really can't say myself how this truck handles hills but one of the problems is that the Ridgeline is not offered in a v8 option as yet. Although the VTEC engine in the Ridgeline is torqued lower for towing, it is still only a v6. For some who live in the hills, that may not be enough.
A friends 1-ton Dodge dually just had a new manual trans replaced at 105k mi. Of course it was at owner's expense.
I don't care how ***** it is, I'd buy it over anything made in Detroit.
I don't care how ***** it is, I'd buy it over anything made in Detroit.
This Ridgeline thingy is nothing more than a 21st Century take on the El Camino or Ranchero. That being said, if you need a comfortable passenger car that can carry a few sacks of topsoil or a couple of straw bales every now and again this might be the car for you.
I do care how ugly it is.
I think it looks good. I was behind one yesterday and it has a real good stance to it too. It must handle better than those body-on-frame solid-axled trucks that look like they're held together with string and bubble gum when you're behind one going over railroad tracks. I think they should have kept the sides of the bed lower for access and visibility though.
Interesting that it has more payload capacity than a 3/4-ton Dodge Mega Cab with a Cummins, and the 0-60 with 1500lb in the bed is only 0.5 seconds slower.
Interesting that it has more payload capacity than a 3/4-ton Dodge Mega Cab with a Cummins, and the 0-60 with 1500lb in the bed is only 0.5 seconds slower.
Are you sure I couldn't find that combination when sifting through Dodges site.
I like to comment on the fact that it will never tow anything near what a Ram can with the Cummins.
They should have just labeled it an SUV, because thats what it is. It is as much as a truck as passenger car. Especially with a V6 not fit to the task and now RWD only model. H E L L the engine is mounted transversly meaning it could be FWD biased. I haven't looked in depth so don't whine if it's not.
I frankly don't care about it or for it. They had the chance to do it right and failed. It only won the Motortrend award because everyone today is more concerned how good the ride is and what their GPS Navigation tells them then the actual product.
Not to mention all the current trucks offer all the ameneties the Honda has. The stability control would be useless on a truck and the only reason it's on that Honda is because in fact it's an overpriced SUV with a bed. Much like the Envoy XUV but that at least does what it set out to do well. Offer less height restriction like a pickup bed but sticking to it's SUV roots.
I would buy a real truck with a quad cab(or Mega in Dodge's case) before that. Just a waste of money.
I like to comment on the fact that it will never tow anything near what a Ram can with the Cummins.
They should have just labeled it an SUV, because thats what it is. It is as much as a truck as passenger car. Especially with a V6 not fit to the task and now RWD only model. H E L L the engine is mounted transversly meaning it could be FWD biased. I haven't looked in depth so don't whine if it's not.
I frankly don't care about it or for it. They had the chance to do it right and failed. It only won the Motortrend award because everyone today is more concerned how good the ride is and what their GPS Navigation tells them then the actual product.
Not to mention all the current trucks offer all the ameneties the Honda has. The stability control would be useless on a truck and the only reason it's on that Honda is because in fact it's an overpriced SUV with a bed. Much like the Envoy XUV but that at least does what it set out to do well. Offer less height restriction like a pickup bed but sticking to it's SUV roots.
I would buy a real truck with a quad cab(or Mega in Dodge's case) before that. Just a waste of money.
I'm not a fan of the styling myself, and yes, the bed is small, but they did not build the truck for my needs...they built it for those folks that keep buying "real" trucks but don't really need them (all the while making them too popular and driving up the price for those of us that really need a truck). The soccer moms need something to throw the smelly Golden Retriever in while they take the little ones to dance practice. Or to pick up this years flowers for the front deck, etc. Just 'cause it's not suitable for me does not mean it isn't perfect for someone else. And no offense intended to those males who like it when I spoke of soccer moms.
At least it will most likely be reliable.
I own a Toyota Tundra and have to listen to people tell me it's not a real truck also, which is total **.
If you really need a truck to do serious hauling, that's why they make F350's and other trucks with big brakes, hubs, axles and diesels.
I don't want a Ridgeline, but I respect anyone that sees it as a practical alternative to a Tahoe or similar. A lot of people need a little exterior bed space for the dirty stuff.
Next time one of the Ridgeline critics have to haul their dog that just got skunked in the back of their explorer will wish they had another option.
Now the new 07 Tundra...that is a "real" truck!!
At least it will most likely be reliable.
I own a Toyota Tundra and have to listen to people tell me it's not a real truck also, which is total **.
If you really need a truck to do serious hauling, that's why they make F350's and other trucks with big brakes, hubs, axles and diesels.
I don't want a Ridgeline, but I respect anyone that sees it as a practical alternative to a Tahoe or similar. A lot of people need a little exterior bed space for the dirty stuff.
Next time one of the Ridgeline critics have to haul their dog that just got skunked in the back of their explorer will wish they had another option.
Now the new 07 Tundra...that is a "real" truck!!
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