Originally Posted By: Trav
Time for another skyship fact check..
Volvo V70 2009.
Originally Posted By: Volvo
When temperatures exceed 104 °F (40 °C) in
your area, Volvo recommends, for the protection
of your engine, that you use a heavier
weight oil, such as such as SAE 5W-40 or
0W-40. See the viscosity chart.
G023491
Viscosity table
Operation in temperate climates
Incorrect viscosity oil can shorten engine life.
Under normal use when temperatures do not
exceed 104 °F (40 °C), SAE 5W-30 will provide
good fuel economy and engine protection. See
the viscosity chart.
Extreme engine operation
Synthetic oils meeting SAE 0W-30 or 0W-40
and complying with oil quality requirements are
recommended for driving in areas of sustained
temperature extremes (hot or cold), when towing
a trailer over long distances, and for prolonged
driving in mountainous areas.
Originally Posted By: Skyship
They specify full synthetic ACEA A5/B5 0 or 5/30 oil until 150K miles, then 5/40 for nearly all their cars
for 2009
Originally Posted By: Volvo
Engine oil must meet the minimum ILSAC
specification GF-4, API SL, or ACEA A1/B1.
For 2012..
Originally Posted By: Volvo
Engine oil must meet the minimum ILSAC
specification GF-4, API SL, or ACEA A1/B1.
Lower quality oils may not offer the same fuel
economy, engine performance, or engine protection
Originally Posted By: Volvo
Incorrect viscosity oil can shorten engine life
under normal use. SAE 5W-30 will provide
good fuel economy and engine protection. See
the viscosity chart.
Extreme engine operation
Synthetic oils meeting SAE 0W-30 or 0W-40
and complying with oil quality requirements are recommended for driving in areas of sustained
temperature extremes (hot or cold), when towing
a trailer over long distances, and for prolonged
driving in mountainous areas.
Please post document where they want you to change to a different viscosity at 150K.
Before you go off on a "thats American spec" rant...
From Shell.UK
Originally Posted By: sell.UK
S80 2.0 (107kW) (P) (200
Application Recommendation Capacity (ltr) Data Sheets
Engine (P) Helix Ultra AF 5W30 (b, c)
Granted Euro spec is most likely A5,B5 but i still cant find anything that says use 5w40 after 150K
The do however give alternatives but are temperature related as is the US specs.
Originally Posted By: Shell.UK
b. Alternative recommendations: Helix Ultra AS 0W-30
c. Alternative recommendations, >2002: A5 0W-40; -25°C to 40°C, A5+B5 5W-40; -10°C to 30°C, A5+B5 10W-30; -10°C to 40°C, A5+B5 10W-40
Help me out here with this viscosity change at 150K
Why are you posting Shell oil specs because Volvo recommend Castrol? The 150K "Talk to dealer" was only in connection with new cars sold in the US, I know the Volvo folks quite well and their recommendations after 150K have to follow current Castrol best or alternate oil recommendations, which are almost the same as those in the manufacturers docs, although my own car lists straight 30 grade as an alternative for a narrow temperature range when that type of oil is not easily available.
The Shell list looks very similar to the Castrol one and it does list 5/40, but the dealers are using 0 and 5/30 for new cars with less than 150K, although you can request any oil on the Castrol approved list, so they will use a cheaper Magnetec 10/40 if you ask them for an older car outside of the warranty.
This is the link for the Volvo chart showing Magnetec for older cars:
CASTROL
(Thats for UK cars only)
If you want to read about the 150K "Talk to dealer" part it should be listed in the US service schedule or a copy of the owners handbook. Try Google as I don't have time to go search for that US page again, but it was a handbook copy. All it said was Volvo recommend fully synthetic 0 or 5/30 and ask the dealer after 150K miles. Castrol don't sell their full product range in the US, so the EU Volvo handbook could be slightly different.
Incidentally Wikepedia is not a good source of info on German laws, because I asked the lawyer where I work, why I could not find a place that would accept used oil and he said a supermarket in BW is normally not defined as an approved outlet for lubricants, so they don't have to take old oil back. ATU who sell oil do take it back because they have an associated maintenance facility that has to have a return oil policy. So in effect the supermarkets who are nearly all selling oil have dodged around the law by failing to register themselves correctly.
If you are reading this in Germany then it is worth thinking about buying oil from a major approved Fleabay dealer as they are cheaper and most Iffy lubes have an online store. It might not be cheaper in the UK because of more restrictive expensive postal requirements.