My 2003 3.3l Chrysler used a Mopar xxxx oil filter and I always used a larger filter like the Pure PL 14670. I just got a used 2008 3.3l Dodge and it calls for a Mopar 4105409, which is what they used to use on the 4cyl engines. The Pure would be PL 10241. What can I use in place of the PL 10241 oil filter that would be larger?
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Originally Posted By: john1944
My 2003 3.3l Chrysler used a Mopar xxxx oil filter and I always used a larger filter like the Pure PL 14670. I just got a used 2008 3.3l Dodge and it calls for a Mopar 4105409, which is what they used to use on the 4cyl engines. The Pure would be PL 10241. What can I use in place of the PL 10241 oil filter that would be larger?
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My 2003 3.3l Chrysler used a Mopar xxxx oil filter and I always used a larger filter like the Pure PL 14670. I just got a used 2008 3.3l Dodge and it calls for a Mopar 4105409, which is what they used to use on the 4cyl engines. The Pure would be PL 10241. What can I use in place of the PL 10241 oil filter that would be larger?
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Originally Posted By: Rock_Hudstone
Originally Posted By: john1944
My 2003 3.3l Chrysler used a Mopar xxxx oil filter and I always used a larger filter like the Pure PL 14670. I just got a used 2008 3.3l Dodge and it calls for a Mopar 4105409, which is what they used to use on the 4cyl engines. The Pure would be PL 10241. What can I use in place of the PL 10241 oil filter that would be larger?
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Sorry about that. My "new" vehicle is a 2009 Dodge Grand Caravan. There is plenty of room for a larger filter.
Originally Posted By: john1944
My 2003 3.3l Chrysler used a Mopar xxxx oil filter and I always used a larger filter like the Pure PL 14670. I just got a used 2008 3.3l Dodge and it calls for a Mopar 4105409, which is what they used to use on the 4cyl engines. The Pure would be PL 10241. What can I use in place of the PL 10241 oil filter that would be larger?
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Sorry about that. My "new" vehicle is a 2009 Dodge Grand Caravan. There is plenty of room for a larger filter.
looking back through an old post where i asked a similar question, the puro 10241, is the size my neon takes, which in fram is a 3614
the oversized fram would be a 3600,which in Purolator is a... 20195.
the oversized fram would be a 3600,which in Purolator is a... 20195.
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It's a 3/4X16 thread. You could use many as long as the gasket seals and the bypass psi is right. My Ranger could use the same filter as your van. And I use a filter that is the same size as a Wix 51773. Mine calls for a FL1-A which could also work for you. The 4670 you talked about can work too. Btw, the The CAT filter I use is a 1.5 quart. Try the Baldwin website and punch in some filter numbers. It gives specs and you can compare them to Purolator.
Jim
Jim
Unless something changed in 2009 the 3.3L Caravan accepts any number of oversize filters as it always has.
First up would be the Motorcraft FL-1A with the thread end bypass. Purolator Classsic L30001 works as well but no thread end bypass.
You can cross reference these part #'s to the brand of your choice.
First up would be the Motorcraft FL-1A with the thread end bypass. Purolator Classsic L30001 works as well but no thread end bypass.
You can cross reference these part #'s to the brand of your choice.
The Motorcraft FL-400s is one heck of a filter and will work fine in that application. It is somewhat longer than the teacup sized 10241 and has a ton of media crammed in it, something like 63 pleats. Thread end bypass and silicone ADBV too all for 4 bucks.
The above mentioned FL-1A equivalents would also work but are huge in comparison, make sure you have room.
The above mentioned FL-1A equivalents would also work but are huge in comparison, make sure you have room.
my dad got REAL ticked off when his late 70s chrysler new yorker 440 had to use a short filter.
So I suppose it would offend you if I told you my lawn mower used the same filter as your van?
(FL-910s is the MC equivalent to the PL10241)
I'd go with the FL-400S. That's what the 3.8 in the Jeep uses, and I also use it in the Saturn since there's plenty of room for it.
(FL-910s is the MC equivalent to the PL10241)
I'd go with the FL-400S. That's what the 3.8 in the Jeep uses, and I also use it in the Saturn since there's plenty of room for it.
People on this site crack me up.
In one thread they will quote mfgr specs chapter and verse, then they fit a non spec oil filter!
This place kills me sometimes...
In one thread they will quote mfgr specs chapter and verse, then they fit a non spec oil filter!
This place kills me sometimes...
Ha ha at least some of us are consistent. I use non-spec filters, run blends and use grades that are optional or not recommended, and dump MoS2 in it to boot!
Sometimes MMO too hah hah.
Sometimes MMO too hah hah.
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
People on this site crack me up.
In one thread they will quote mfgr specs chapter and verse, then they fit a non spec oil filter!
This place kills me sometimes...
Some of us just think we know better than Chrysler-er, Daimler, er, Chrysler LLC, er, Fiat, er-whoever owns them this week!?!
People on this site crack me up.
In one thread they will quote mfgr specs chapter and verse, then they fit a non spec oil filter!
This place kills me sometimes...
Some of us just think we know better than Chrysler-er, Daimler, er, Chrysler LLC, er, Fiat, er-whoever owns them this week!?!
Heh, no worries here. I am a huge believer in everybody getting to do their own thing.
Just please post up the results so we can benefit from the experience!
Just please post up the results so we can benefit from the experience!
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Sorry for the Super long post, but here is the competetor Cross-reference for the Fram 3600(the over sized version of the 3614)should give you all the part #'s you could ever want
AC-DELCO PF56
AC-DELCO PFL400A
AC-DELCO PFL400ACL
AC-DELCO PFL400AFCL
ALLIANCE ABP/N10G-LF3339
AMSOIL ASF34
AMSOIL EAO34
ATLAS F-18
AUTO VALUE 1-3600
AUTOEDGE AL3600
Autolite for Oil FIlters AL3600
AUTOPAR FE215
AUTOPRO 2516
AUTOWIZE A16
AWARD AOF-195
BALDWIN B243
BECK/ARNLEY 041-8095
BIG A 92516
BIG A 92762
BIG A 92764
BOLENS 277233
BOSCH 3422
BOSCH 72143
BRAVO B195
CAM2 C195
CANADIAN TIRE 17-17881-8
CARCARE IOF3600
CARQUEST 84301
CARQUEST 85516
CARQUEST 85762
CARQUEST 85764
CARQUEST B195
CASITE CF213
CATERPILLAR 3I-1174
CENEX CO4000
CHAMP PH400
CHAMPION OF11
CHRYSLER 0471452AA
CHRYSLER 4781452AA
CHRYSLER 4781452BB
CITGO C195
CRUISEMASTER 223
DEFENSE DL3600
DEFENSE DL3600
DELPHI FX1022
DELUXE WD-414
DEUTSCH D485
DITCH-WITCH 155-938
DONALDSON P550400
DONALDSON P554770
DYNALIFE CN-400
ECONO LUBE L20195
EVERGARD E195
EXCEL INDUSTRIES 044693
EXCEL INDUSTRIES 277233
FACET 400
FILTERS INCORPORATED OF3600
FIRESTONE TF400
FIRESTONE TF-400
FLAG C-2870
FLAG C-3600
FLEETGUARD LF16212
FLEETGUARD LF3339
FLEETRITE LFR-83339
Flying F PH3600AZ
FORD E1EE-6714-AA
FORD E1FZ-6731-A
FORD E4FZ-6731-A
FORD E4FZ-6731-AB
FORD FL 400
GEHL 078852
GEHL 083715
GEHL 600287
GENERAL MOTORS 19160692
GENERAL MOTORS 19160695
GENERAL MOTORS 710319
GENERAL MOTORS 7984225
GONHER GP3600
GOODYEAR 222-4520
GOODYEAR L400
GRAND PRIX PH400
GRAVELY 046602
GREASE MONKEY GM20195
GREASE MONKEY GM400
GROUP 7 V195
GULF GF-223
HASTINGS LF134
HASTINGS LF135
HASTINGS LF580
HAVOLINE T-28
HYDRA-MAC 4209-146
IAPCO A-0201-001
INTERNATIONAL PARTS SERVICES 4-1087
ITM 11-17801
ITM 111-7801
JAGUAR XR815347
JAGUAR XR817215
JAGUAR XR823395
JAGUAR XR83332
JAGUAR XR8E6714AB
JIFFY LUBE HL3600
JIFFY LUBE JL195
JIFFY LUBE L20195
JOHN DEERE AM34770
JOHN DEERE HE1220323
JOHN DEERE HE1220445
JOHN DEERE TY15591
K & N HP-2009
K MART K-14
K MART MP-14
KENDALL K11
KOHLER 277233
KRALINATOR L109
KRALINATOR L180
LEE LF-400
LEE LF-400HP
LPM 1350-5764
LUBER-FINER PH28
LUBER-FINER PH400
LUCAS GIRLING F6202
LUCAS GIRLING F6567
MANN & HUMMEL ML 1005
MANN & HUMMEL W719/12
MANN & HUMMEL W719/14
MANN & HUMMEL W818/2
MARATHON MO400
MARATHON-LETOURNEAU MO400
MASTER PARTS PH-400
MAZDA YF09-14-302A
MAZDA ZZM1-23-802
MAZDA ZZM1-23-802A
MECHANICS CIRCLE MOF 3600
MICROGARD MGL3600
MIGHTY M3600
MILEGUARD MO3600
MINIT LUBE PH400
MOBIL M1-209
MOBIL MO195
MOPAR MO-452
MOTOR TREND ML3600
MOTORCRAFT FL 276
MOTORCRAFT FL 400
MOTORCRAFT FL 400-A
MOTORCRAFT FL 400-A3
MOTORCRAFT FL 400S
MOTORCRAFT FL 791
NAPA 1516
NAPA 1762
NAPA 1764
NAPA 7301
NEW HOLLAND 277233
NEW HOLLAND 507631
ONAN 122-0323
ONAN 122-0445
ONAN 122-0469
ONAN 122-0608
ONAN 122-0680
ONAN 122A-323
ONAN 122B-323
PARTS MASTER 61516
PARTS PLUS PH400
PHILLIPS 66 PO195
POWER FLO SL20195
PRECISION TUNE OF-143
PRO/GAUGE PGO-195
PROMATCH 971489
PROMOTIVE PH195
PRONTO PO-3600
PRO-TEC 116
PURFLUX LS194
PUROLATOR L20089
PUROLATOR L20195
QUAKER STATE QS3600
ROCKHILL 61516
SEARS 45200
SECURITY SO-195
SELECT 500 L1516
SERVICE 1 OF195
SERVICE PRO M195
SHELL SH28
SIEG OS3600
SILVERLINE 21516
STP S3600
SUNOCO O-18
SUPERTECH ST3600
TARGET SF400
TENNANT 166765
TENNANT 47352
TENNANT 56845
THERMO-KING 11-4948
TRUST PH400
UNOCAL PF400
VALUTEST 42064
VALUTEST V2516
VALVOLINE VO23
VERA 10-01568
WALMI WS-3600
WARNER PH400
WESTERN AUTO 74-5882-1
WIX 51516
WIX 51764
WIX 57301
AC-DELCO PF56
AC-DELCO PFL400A
AC-DELCO PFL400ACL
AC-DELCO PFL400AFCL
ALLIANCE ABP/N10G-LF3339
AMSOIL ASF34
AMSOIL EAO34
ATLAS F-18
AUTO VALUE 1-3600
AUTOEDGE AL3600
Autolite for Oil FIlters AL3600
AUTOPAR FE215
AUTOPRO 2516
AUTOWIZE A16
AWARD AOF-195
BALDWIN B243
BECK/ARNLEY 041-8095
BIG A 92516
BIG A 92762
BIG A 92764
BOLENS 277233
BOSCH 3422
BOSCH 72143
BRAVO B195
CAM2 C195
CANADIAN TIRE 17-17881-8
CARCARE IOF3600
CARQUEST 84301
CARQUEST 85516
CARQUEST 85762
CARQUEST 85764
CARQUEST B195
CASITE CF213
CATERPILLAR 3I-1174
CENEX CO4000
CHAMP PH400
CHAMPION OF11
CHRYSLER 0471452AA
CHRYSLER 4781452AA
CHRYSLER 4781452BB
CITGO C195
CRUISEMASTER 223
DEFENSE DL3600
DEFENSE DL3600
DELPHI FX1022
DELUXE WD-414
DEUTSCH D485
DITCH-WITCH 155-938
DONALDSON P550400
DONALDSON P554770
DYNALIFE CN-400
ECONO LUBE L20195
EVERGARD E195
EXCEL INDUSTRIES 044693
EXCEL INDUSTRIES 277233
FACET 400
FILTERS INCORPORATED OF3600
FIRESTONE TF400
FIRESTONE TF-400
FLAG C-2870
FLAG C-3600
FLEETGUARD LF16212
FLEETGUARD LF3339
FLEETRITE LFR-83339
Flying F PH3600AZ
FORD E1EE-6714-AA
FORD E1FZ-6731-A
FORD E4FZ-6731-A
FORD E4FZ-6731-AB
FORD FL 400
GEHL 078852
GEHL 083715
GEHL 600287
GENERAL MOTORS 19160692
GENERAL MOTORS 19160695
GENERAL MOTORS 710319
GENERAL MOTORS 7984225
GONHER GP3600
GOODYEAR 222-4520
GOODYEAR L400
GRAND PRIX PH400
GRAVELY 046602
GREASE MONKEY GM20195
GREASE MONKEY GM400
GROUP 7 V195
GULF GF-223
HASTINGS LF134
HASTINGS LF135
HASTINGS LF580
HAVOLINE T-28
HYDRA-MAC 4209-146
IAPCO A-0201-001
INTERNATIONAL PARTS SERVICES 4-1087
ITM 11-17801
ITM 111-7801
JAGUAR XR815347
JAGUAR XR817215
JAGUAR XR823395
JAGUAR XR83332
JAGUAR XR8E6714AB
JIFFY LUBE HL3600
JIFFY LUBE JL195
JIFFY LUBE L20195
JOHN DEERE AM34770
JOHN DEERE HE1220323
JOHN DEERE HE1220445
JOHN DEERE TY15591
K & N HP-2009
K MART K-14
K MART MP-14
KENDALL K11
KOHLER 277233
KRALINATOR L109
KRALINATOR L180
LEE LF-400
LEE LF-400HP
LPM 1350-5764
LUBER-FINER PH28
LUBER-FINER PH400
LUCAS GIRLING F6202
LUCAS GIRLING F6567
MANN & HUMMEL ML 1005
MANN & HUMMEL W719/12
MANN & HUMMEL W719/14
MANN & HUMMEL W818/2
MARATHON MO400
MARATHON-LETOURNEAU MO400
MASTER PARTS PH-400
MAZDA YF09-14-302A
MAZDA ZZM1-23-802
MAZDA ZZM1-23-802A
MECHANICS CIRCLE MOF 3600
MICROGARD MGL3600
MIGHTY M3600
MILEGUARD MO3600
MINIT LUBE PH400
MOBIL M1-209
MOBIL MO195
MOPAR MO-452
MOTOR TREND ML3600
MOTORCRAFT FL 276
MOTORCRAFT FL 400
MOTORCRAFT FL 400-A
MOTORCRAFT FL 400-A3
MOTORCRAFT FL 400S
MOTORCRAFT FL 791
NAPA 1516
NAPA 1762
NAPA 1764
NAPA 7301
NEW HOLLAND 277233
NEW HOLLAND 507631
ONAN 122-0323
ONAN 122-0445
ONAN 122-0469
ONAN 122-0608
ONAN 122-0680
ONAN 122A-323
ONAN 122B-323
PARTS MASTER 61516
PARTS PLUS PH400
PHILLIPS 66 PO195
POWER FLO SL20195
PRECISION TUNE OF-143
PRO/GAUGE PGO-195
PROMATCH 971489
PROMOTIVE PH195
PRONTO PO-3600
PRO-TEC 116
PURFLUX LS194
PUROLATOR L20089
PUROLATOR L20195
QUAKER STATE QS3600
ROCKHILL 61516
SEARS 45200
SECURITY SO-195
SELECT 500 L1516
SERVICE 1 OF195
SERVICE PRO M195
SHELL SH28
SIEG OS3600
SILVERLINE 21516
STP S3600
SUNOCO O-18
TARGET SF400
TENNANT 166765
TENNANT 47352
TENNANT 56845
THERMO-KING 11-4948
TRUST PH400
UNOCAL PF400
VALUTEST 42064
VALUTEST V2516
VALVOLINE VO23
VERA 10-01568
WALMI WS-3600
WARNER PH400
WESTERN AUTO 74-5882-1
WIX 51516
WIX 51764
WIX 57301
Originally Posted By: KD0AXS
So I suppose it would offend you if I told you my lawn mower used the same filter as your van?
(FL-910s is the MC equivalent to the PL10241)
Same situation here, My Neon, and Dad's Cub Cadet Rider(w/ Kohler motor)use the same Filter.
mind if i ask what OCI you run on the Mower? dad's came with conflicting manuals. the Kohler engine manual says 100hrs, the Cub manual says 50hrs. and when i changed the oil @57 hrs, the FF, w/ Kohler Filter, looked practically new, well as much as you can tell by looking.
replaced w/ QSAD 10w30, and Wix 51348
So I suppose it would offend you if I told you my lawn mower used the same filter as your van?
(FL-910s is the MC equivalent to the PL10241)
Same situation here, My Neon, and Dad's Cub Cadet Rider(w/ Kohler motor)use the same Filter.
mind if i ask what OCI you run on the Mower? dad's came with conflicting manuals. the Kohler engine manual says 100hrs, the Cub manual says 50hrs. and when i changed the oil @57 hrs, the FF, w/ Kohler Filter, looked practically new, well as much as you can tell by looking.
replaced w/ QSAD 10w30, and Wix 51348
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Originally Posted By: earlyre
Originally Posted By: KD0AXS
So I suppose it would offend you if I told you my lawn mower used the same filter as your van?
(FL-910s is the MC equivalent to the PL10241)
Same situation here, My Neon, and Dad's Cub Cadet Rider(w/ Kohler motor)use the same Filter.
mind if i ask what OCI you run on the Mower? dad's came with conflicting manuals. the Kohler engine manual says 100hrs, the Cub manual says 50hrs. and when i changed the oil @57 hrs, the FF, w/ Kohler Filter, looked practically new, well as much as you can tell by looking.
replaced w/ QSAD 10w30, and Wix 51348
Well, I just bought this mower this spring when the wife and I bought our first house. I bought it used off of Craigslist and didn't get any manuals with it, My plan is to just change it once every spring before I mow the lawn for the first time. Can't imagine I put much more than 50 hours a year on it anyway. (no hour meter)
Originally Posted By: KD0AXS
So I suppose it would offend you if I told you my lawn mower used the same filter as your van?
(FL-910s is the MC equivalent to the PL10241)
Same situation here, My Neon, and Dad's Cub Cadet Rider(w/ Kohler motor)use the same Filter.
mind if i ask what OCI you run on the Mower? dad's came with conflicting manuals. the Kohler engine manual says 100hrs, the Cub manual says 50hrs. and when i changed the oil @57 hrs, the FF, w/ Kohler Filter, looked practically new, well as much as you can tell by looking.
replaced w/ QSAD 10w30, and Wix 51348
Well, I just bought this mower this spring when the wife and I bought our first house. I bought it used off of Craigslist and didn't get any manuals with it, My plan is to just change it once every spring before I mow the lawn for the first time. Can't imagine I put much more than 50 hours a year on it anyway. (no hour meter)
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