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Originally Posted By: eljefino
Are you obligated to keep gas service accounts open continuously?


Around here, pretty much.

They charge you a fee, whether you use gas or not. If you disconnect for months and then reconnect, you get a bill for the months you disconnected.

Our local is evil scum as far as I am concerned. I sympathize with the OP. If you have properties that produce natural gas ( I do ), they don't pay you jack squat for it. They certainly don't pay me when I'm not producing.
 
Originally Posted By: Win
Originally Posted By: eljefino
Are you obligated to keep gas service accounts open continuously?


They charge you a fee, whether you use gas or not. If you disconnect for months and then reconnect, you get a bill for the months you disconnected.

Our local is evil scum as far as I am concerned. I sympathize with the OP. If you have properties that produce natural gas ( I do ), they don't pay you jack squat for it. They certainly don't pay me when I'm not producing.


It's somewhat normal in industry. You get charged a fee whether you use it or not. They basically need to know what the demand will be and they have to be ready to send you gas if you need it. So of course there should be a fee for that. It costs money to maintain infrastructure.
 
Originally Posted By: Wolf359
Oh in case it hasn't been said yet, just pay your bills deadbeat.

Rather silly to risk burning the house down because of some silly argument with the local utility. You pay the bill and then fight it with the utility commission as mentioned earlier. If you lose, it will still be cheaper than heating the house with electricity and you don't risk burning the house down. Sometimes you just need to sit down and think things through.


So...did you not read the thread, then?
 
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Originally Posted By: Pop_Rivit
Originally Posted By: ram_man
Hey everyone so our natural gas company is as crooked as they come. Only think on natural gas is the heater. Right now we've been fighting with them and if I pay them a portion of what they say I owe they'll turn the heat back on


If the only "think" on natural gas is the water heater, then why does turning the gas off also have your heat turned off? And how would using 4 space heaters give you hot water if your water heater is gas? Your story doesn't make any sense and quite frankly, sounds like you're trying to skew the truth.

This seems to be a common thread with everyone you deal with, from the Ford dealer to your employer and the utility company.

Natural gas companies are not "crooked". Go in, sit down with them, figure out what is wrong and fix it. It sounds as though you haven't paid your bill and you're trying to shift blame from yourself to the nameless, faceless utility.

Apparently you have enough money to purchase new cars on credit, so you should have enough money to pay your utility bills. And if you think your utility bills are high now, see what happens when you run those 4-1500 watt space heaters 24/7. Then we'll get to hear how crooked your electric utility is.


I'm with Pop. Drama follows you around like a dog your shadow.

How difficult is it to pay a utility company correctly?


Got a new car, but can't afford to pay my gas bill. Didn't like that car, got a newer car, but can't afford to pay my gas bill.

Why not build an igloo, skin some seals, and not pay for gas or electricity all winter? That'll show them!


ram - you appear to be getting back to the old days, in which you had to be hand held to do basic, trivial things that come up often in life.
your communication skills are poor, and several posters have to drag info from you, in order to understand your thought process.
when you state the "only think on natural gas is the heater",all assume that you mean the water heater, not a furnace.

the over the phone payment thing is NOT working.gather proof on paper, and go to the utility, and speak to a human, face to face, and deal with this trivial issue, NOW. jeezus, man, you've a family to take care of ! get the heat put back on.

thinking about 4 electric heaters to heat an entire house, is, well, moronic.insane bills will follow, as well as a huge safety issue.

read mad river's last post.this is pretty much what people think.
please don't go back to the old hand holding days, when you would lash out at posters if you were told what you didn't want to hear.you recently started to grow up.

wise words from jhzr2 - "all are diy feats". let us know when you have the gas back on. have a good night.
 
And another thing, once you get the gas on, and it's winter, you can't be shut off as long as you "try to pay", in most jurisdictions.

This could be as simple as just sending $50 a month until you pay it off.

You just need the paper trail. Checks are good for this.
 
Originally Posted By: Jarlaxle
Originally Posted By: Wolf359
Oh in case it hasn't been said yet, just pay your bills deadbeat.

Rather silly to risk burning the house down because of some silly argument with the local utility. You pay the bill and then fight it with the utility commission as mentioned earlier. If you lose, it will still be cheaper than heating the house with electricity and you don't risk burning the house down. Sometimes you just need to sit down and think things through.


So...did you not read the thread, then?


Yes, I did, did you? He claims he doesn't owe any money but the utility says he does. Therefore the comment pay your bills deadbeat is appropriate. He can fight with the later and see if he can get a refund or as the previous poster mentioned, go see them in person with proof of payment. Then it's a non-story.

Usually if a large nameless multi-national company claims that you owe them money, you usually owe them money. Just claiming they're corrupt without any proof doesn't make it so.
 
Electricity where I live is 3x more expensive than natural gas.

My highest natural gas bill last winter with my furnace set at 72 degrees 24/7 for a month where the Avg. temp was in single digits was $200. That's heat, hot water, stove. My house has new windows/doors but isn't even insulated that well at all. Seems like the furnace never shuts off on months like that.

When my son was born his room is at the one end of the house and is always 3-4 degrees colder than the rest of the house so my wife worried he might freeze to death
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I ran a small electric radiator in there to bring it up to 75ish and it added like $30-40 on our monthly electric bill immediately. I can't imagine running 4 of them 24/7 full tilt. I'd be looking at some $400-500 electric bills I bet.

I guess all of this isn't on topic...pay your [censored] bill. I repeat, pay your bill. Who pays bills over the phone with a debit card that's not 87 years old? Pay it online for [censored]'s sake.
 
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Can you just go with into a location on your way home from work to pay it? Or pay a few months in advance so they can take it out of that each month?
 
How long are you planning to live there? You might consider upgrading your furnace, insulation, windows, doors..water heater.
 
Originally Posted By: Wolf359
Originally Posted By: Jarlaxle
Originally Posted By: Wolf359
Oh in case it hasn't been said yet, just pay your bills deadbeat.

Rather silly to risk burning the house down because of some silly argument with the local utility. You pay the bill and then fight it with the utility commission as mentioned earlier. If you lose, it will still be cheaper than heating the house with electricity and you don't risk burning the house down. Sometimes you just need to sit down and think things through.


So...did you not read the thread, then?


Yes, I did, did you? He claims he doesn't owe any money but the utility says he does. Therefore the comment pay your bills deadbeat is appropriate. He can fight with the later and see if he can get a refund or as the previous poster mentioned, go see them in person with proof of payment. Then it's a non-story.

Usually if a large nameless multi-national company claims that you owe them money, you usually owe them money. Just claiming they're corrupt without any proof doesn't make it so.


"Didn't read the thread" it is, then. One more time:

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I pay with a debit card over the phone . I have every statement and every confirmation number and they still dispute it.
My water heater is electric. THE ONLY THING THATS GAS IS THE HEAT IN THE HOUSE. Just want that to be clear. My house is very well insulated.
I am working with them trying to get it fixed but I am not paying money I'll never get back that I don't owe. I even have the last bill from them that says a zero balance.[/i] They do this to a lot of folks not just me.


He paid his bill and has PROOF that he did!
 
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