Has has technology advanced

[Triple_Se7en]

Originally Posted by ka9mnx
Originally Posted by Jetstreamz06
Have oils made it to the point where even the cheapest oil on the shelf will provide long engine life? I feel like we are splitting hairs here looking for differences between oils. What do you think?

I came to that conclusion last year and went from a life time user of M1 to SuperTech.

Your fleet is old. Supertech is understandable. The 0w20 in your 2005 is similar to my most recent use in my 2004 Colorado. But I doubt I continue with 0w20. I like the 0w40 better.

 

[ka9mnx]

Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en
Your fleet is old. Supertech is understandable. The 0w20 in your 2005 is similar to my most recent use in my 2004 Colorado. But I doubt I continue with 0w20. I like the 0w40 better.

Just because my fleet is "old" doesn't mean I can use junk oil. I'm hoping these vehicles are my last purchase.

I used the recommended Motorcraft 5w-20 in my 2005 for several years when I bought the truck because I'm a "thinny". I couldn't keep up with the oil consumption and lifter noise was deafening. I changed to 5w30 and all was well again. I'm trying the 20 grade again and the lifters are as quiet as the 30 grade. If oil consumption doesn't go up I'll keep the 20 grade because the engine spins up much better, especially before it's reached operating temps. Hopefully it will also help fuel economy.

I think the 20 grade oils of today are much better than they were 15 years ago and I don't consider SuperTech as a junk oil.

 

[Triple_Se7en]

Motorcraft has a great history, following and reputation. So do it's parents during this great history.

 

[ka9mnx]

Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en
Motorcraft has a great history, following and reputation. So do it's parents during this great history.

Maybe it has changed but when I was using it back in 2005-2007 I considered it a junk oil based on my experience with it.

 

[nascarnation]

Originally Posted by ka9mnx

Maybe it has changed but when I was using it back in 2005-2007 I considered it a junk oil based on my experience with it.



Engine failed?
Bad analysis reports vs other previous lubes?
Covfefe?

 

[ka9mnx]

None of the above. Oil consumption issues and PDS comparisons to other manufacturers.

 

[ToadU]

Oil is oil if it meets the proper specs. Every fleet vehicle is running the cheapest bulk oil meeting spec w jobber filters and going insane miles with very little issues. My shop has contracts with police, city vehicles and school busses and I use the cheapest bulk oil and other fluids meeting manufacturers specs with jobber filters. Police cars idle and idle and idle on top of being driven hard. The local PD still has some old Crown Vics in the reserve fleet with over 200k and who knows how many idle hours. They use the old Vics for spares now, sitting at idle for road construction and during special events.

I also believe the Vics burn more easily when lit on fire especially with Molotov Peaceful Protest Cocktails as compared to the newer patrol cars. Apparently interiors of newer cars have more flame retardant and burn more slowly. Studies apparently still ongoing to see if this is true.

The Dodge police and city cars are such junk it's pathetic IMO but oil related failures are unheard of even in the Peugeot / FCA junk.

 

[4WD]

Wonder if the undocumented shoppers pass over the name brands and grab store brands …