Hard Water?

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I gotta say you should consider a water softener for more than just your car. It is the first upgrade I make to my home if it doesn't have one. It helps extend the life of appliances and water heaters greatly in areas of hard water. It makes keeping the house clean so much easier, especially faucets, toilets and showers.

My parents have VERY hard water through their city and their water heater would die every 5 years like clockwork. They finally got a water softener and the newest water heater is on year #9 and no issues.
 
Originally Posted By: BTLew81
MF towels only...old bath towels will scratch and swirl. Many are cotton blends. Not a good material to put on clear/paint.

Well I pretty much share that same thoughts, I only use premium microfiber towels on my vehicles and the vehicles I work on. No way an old bath towel is going to touch the paint on my car after I've spent countless hours correcting the finish. Just my personal preference.
 
Originally Posted By: BTLew81
MF towels only...old bath towels will scratch and swirl. Many are cotton blends. Not a good material to put on clear/paint.


I concur. If you can get 100% cotton towels, which is all but impossible these days, they are acceptable. Quality microfiber towels are the way to go.
 
Waffle weave MF towels are the best, soak up a lot of water, and using a leaf blower work great, I use one everytime I wash my vehicles, and using a good car wash with paint conditioners helps eliminate water spots, my favorite is Meguiars Gold Class, leaves a nice slick finish
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Around here I can go to a small store and get 1ppm bulk water for $0.20/gal (it's drinking water, but to prove to you it's not just street water they have a TDS meter). You could put that in a plant sprayer and use it as a final rinse.

It's probably cheaper overall than the initial layout and periodic filter replacements of a hose filter.
 
Water is extremely hard in Las Vegas but wash problems were eliminated by my use of Optimum No Rinse(ONR). I used Quick and Easy Wash before ONR was available.
I have not used a hose to wash in years.
 
Originally Posted By: hummdrumm
Water is extremely hard in Las Vegas but wash problems were eliminated by my use of Optimum No Rinse(ONR). I used Quick and Easy Wash before ONR was available.
I have not used a hose to wash in years.


After a week at work I would hate to see my paint if I tried to use a waterless wash.
 
Originally Posted By: 97f150
Originally Posted By: hummdrumm
Water is extremely hard in Las Vegas but wash problems were eliminated by my use of Optimum No Rinse(ONR). I used Quick and Easy Wash before ONR was available.
I have not used a hose to wash in years.


After a week at work I would hate to see my paint if I tried to use a waterless wash.


It's not a waterless wash, it is a rinseless wash. You use about 2 gallons of water total.
 
Originally Posted By: jughead500
Why go through all this hassle? Just get yourself a water softener and be done with it.



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No hassle. My 2 year daily driver washed with nothing but ONR. Dust,dirt, bird poop and mud. It handled it all. Wash and dry by panel. So easy.
 
Originally Posted By: hummdrumm
Originally Posted By: jughead500
Why go through all this hassle? Just get yourself a water softener and be done with it.





No hassle. My 2 year daily driver washed with nothing but ONR. Dust,dirt, bird poop and mud. It handled it all. Wash and dry by panel. So easy.

ONR is one of the most useful detailing products I use by far. Rinseless wash, windows, interiors, clay lube, quick detailer, it's so dang versatile and I've use so many gallons of that stuff that I don't think I would know what to do if they took it off the market. Now there is no substitute for a conventional wash on super dirty vehicles, but for maintenance washing, ONR is awesome.
 
Originally Posted By: gary031
Originally Posted By: hummdrumm
Originally Posted By: jughead500
Why go through all this hassle? Just get yourself a water softener and be done with it.





No hassle. My 2 year daily driver washed with nothing but ONR. Dust,dirt, bird poop and mud. It handled it all. Wash and dry by panel. So easy.

ONR is one of the most useful detailing products I use by far. Rinseless wash, windows, interiors, clay lube, quick detailer, it's so dang versatile and I've use so many gallons of that stuff that I don't think I would know what to do if they took it off the market. Now there is no substitute for a conventional wash on super dirty vehicles, but for maintenance washing, ONR is awesome.


+1 Did you hear about the new wash and wax that ONR is making? Obviously wont replace traditional waxing but it will be nice for the winters...
 
Originally Posted By: Bgallagher
Originally Posted By: gary031
Originally Posted By: hummdrumm
Originally Posted By: jughead500
Why go through all this hassle? Just get yourself a water softener and be done with it.





No hassle. My 2 year daily driver washed with nothing but ONR. Dust,dirt, bird poop and mud. It handled it all. Wash and dry by panel. So easy.

ONR is one of the most useful detailing products I use by far. Rinseless wash, windows, interiors, clay lube, quick detailer, it's so dang versatile and I've use so many gallons of that stuff that I don't think I would know what to do if they took it off the market. Now there is no substitute for a conventional wash on super dirty vehicles, but for maintenance washing, ONR is awesome.


+1 Did you hear about the new wash and wax that ONR is making? Obviously wont replace traditional waxing but it will be nice for the winters...

Already on my second gallon ONR with wax, works great and ads a nice gloss (not that ONR didn't already leave a great finish). Optimum polymer technologies makes some excellent products for sure.
 
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