you got $10 oil change in 2011....what are you complaining about again?
Guess where I won't be taking my car again
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Originally Posted By: crazyoildude
Does this supprise anyone? Just like most stealerships they probably buy the cheapest 10w30 oil they can find... I know of many dealers that use 10w30 one size fits all cheap is the best for profit thinking... They can fool most but not all and word gets out fast
I'm sick of this fallacy... you start controversy and have absolutely NOTHING to back it up.
Does this supprise anyone? Just like most stealerships they probably buy the cheapest 10w30 oil they can find... I know of many dealers that use 10w30 one size fits all cheap is the best for profit thinking... They can fool most but not all and word gets out fast
I'm sick of this fallacy... you start controversy and have absolutely NOTHING to back it up.
Originally Posted By: kemo
Originally Posted By: crazyoildude
Does this supprise anyone? Just like most stealerships they probably buy the cheapest 10w30 oil they can find... I know of many dealers that use 10w30 one size fits all cheap is the best for profit thinking... They can fool most but not all and word gets out fast
I'm sick of this fallacy... you start controversy and have absolutely NOTHING to back it up.
I definitely haven't seen it myself. We send out more 5w30 drums than all of the 5w-20, 10w30 and 10w-40 combined. Most dealers buy multiple viscosities. Heck, the local Chevrolet dealer buys Motorcraft 5w-20 in drums just to put in the Ford vehicles that roll through!
Originally Posted By: crazyoildude
Does this supprise anyone? Just like most stealerships they probably buy the cheapest 10w30 oil they can find... I know of many dealers that use 10w30 one size fits all cheap is the best for profit thinking... They can fool most but not all and word gets out fast
I'm sick of this fallacy... you start controversy and have absolutely NOTHING to back it up.
I definitely haven't seen it myself. We send out more 5w30 drums than all of the 5w-20, 10w30 and 10w-40 combined. Most dealers buy multiple viscosities. Heck, the local Chevrolet dealer buys Motorcraft 5w-20 in drums just to put in the Ford vehicles that roll through!
Originally Posted By: Bottom_Feeder
They still put in new, clean oil in an acceptable grade and a new, clean filter. You got 5000 miles out of it for $10. You guys made out just fine. I don't see what the problem is.
Its called Fraud.
They still put in new, clean oil in an acceptable grade and a new, clean filter. You got 5000 miles out of it for $10. You guys made out just fine. I don't see what the problem is.
Its called Fraud.
They don't make money on the $10 oil change. It's just to get you in there and then upsell you to a transmission flush, additives, coolant change, etc. As long as they use a name brand SN/SM/SL oil and name brand filter then no worries. Not the best stuff, but won't necessarily hurt the engine with a 5k mile OCI. Now if they were putting in one of the bad oils listed here then there would be a problem.
Originally Posted By: Gene K
Originally Posted By: Bottom_Feeder
They still put in new, clean oil in an acceptable grade and a new, clean filter. You got 5000 miles out of it for $10. You guys made out just fine. I don't see what the problem is.
Its called Fraud.
Haha, no. Fraud would be if they charged him for services rendered and didn't do it, and hoped that he wouldn't notice. Not the case here.
To me, it seems a bit naive of the OP to think they would use 'name brand' products for a cheapo $10 service regardless of what the guy at the counter said. Buyer beware, too good to be true, you get what you pay for, etc.
Originally Posted By: Bottom_Feeder
They still put in new, clean oil in an acceptable grade and a new, clean filter. You got 5000 miles out of it for $10. You guys made out just fine. I don't see what the problem is.
Its called Fraud.
Haha, no. Fraud would be if they charged him for services rendered and didn't do it, and hoped that he wouldn't notice. Not the case here.
To me, it seems a bit naive of the OP to think they would use 'name brand' products for a cheapo $10 service regardless of what the guy at the counter said. Buyer beware, too good to be true, you get what you pay for, etc.
Originally Posted By: lui
you got $10 oil change in 2011....what are you complaining about again?
I'm not exactly complaining. I'm just saying that with literally hundreds of mechanic shops within easy driving distance of my house, I don't need to return to one that I don't completely trust.
The responses that either blame me for not changing it myself, or tell me that I shouldn't expect much for $10 are also interesting. Many on this board are very happy about the "deals" and rebates they've gotten on motor oil. We are regaled with tales of PP for pennies, G-Oil for free, big rebates on this or that, etc. If you open a bottle of that high-priced oil and find that it's not what it's supposed to be, are you gonna say, "Oh, well, I got a good deal on this, I shouldn't complain?" Or maybe, "Huh. Guess I should have paid full price."
you got $10 oil change in 2011....what are you complaining about again?
I'm not exactly complaining. I'm just saying that with literally hundreds of mechanic shops within easy driving distance of my house, I don't need to return to one that I don't completely trust.
The responses that either blame me for not changing it myself, or tell me that I shouldn't expect much for $10 are also interesting. Many on this board are very happy about the "deals" and rebates they've gotten on motor oil. We are regaled with tales of PP for pennies, G-Oil for free, big rebates on this or that, etc. If you open a bottle of that high-priced oil and find that it's not what it's supposed to be, are you gonna say, "Oh, well, I got a good deal on this, I shouldn't complain?" Or maybe, "Huh. Guess I should have paid full price."
Which is a good point, but I don't think you can directly compare physical goods with serviced rendered on a money spent/value received scale like that. Apples and oranges.
If you find Mobil 1 for $0.99/quart somewhere, there is no doubt that it is indeed the same product that sells for $8/quart elsewhere unless someone has gone through a lot of trouble to counterfeit it. It's a packaged, sealed product. What you find at AAP should be the same thing you can get a little cheaper at Wal-Mart or the corner mom and pop store that's going out of business that's practically giving it away.
But there are so many hidden shortcuts in the auto service and repair industry, it's extremely easy to charge a customer for one thing and provide something else, either by mistake or on purpose. Informed consumers should know that and should check their expectations accordingly. Finding a $10 oil change service that supposedly uses name brand consumer products should ring the alarm bells. That's all I'm saying.
If you find Mobil 1 for $0.99/quart somewhere, there is no doubt that it is indeed the same product that sells for $8/quart elsewhere unless someone has gone through a lot of trouble to counterfeit it. It's a packaged, sealed product. What you find at AAP should be the same thing you can get a little cheaper at Wal-Mart or the corner mom and pop store that's going out of business that's practically giving it away.
But there are so many hidden shortcuts in the auto service and repair industry, it's extremely easy to charge a customer for one thing and provide something else, either by mistake or on purpose. Informed consumers should know that and should check their expectations accordingly. Finding a $10 oil change service that supposedly uses name brand consumer products should ring the alarm bells. That's all I'm saying.
I'd reserve the term "fraud" for things like when Wall Street sells financial products that they know will fail but misrepresent them and they end up taking down the financial system. But that's just me
I would have very low expectations in a transaction where I KNOW the price point is below actual cost of labor and materials. I wouldn't even allow my car into such a facility for fear that they'd be in such a hurry that they'd forget to put the plug in or some such.
I would have very low expectations in a transaction where I KNOW the price point is below actual cost of labor and materials. I wouldn't even allow my car into such a facility for fear that they'd be in such a hurry that they'd forget to put the plug in or some such.
Originally Posted By: kasedian
It's a Geo!!!! Im surprised those things even have an oil filter! What engine are they using now? An Intek 24?!?!
Actually, a 96 Geo Prizm is basically a re-badged Toyota Corolla. This one has a 1.6L Toyota 4-cyl.
It's a Geo!!!! Im surprised those things even have an oil filter! What engine are they using now? An Intek 24?!?!
Actually, a 96 Geo Prizm is basically a re-badged Toyota Corolla. This one has a 1.6L Toyota 4-cyl.
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