Guess what PCMO these guys are talking about?

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"Well guys....It had a very high paraffin content. This paraffin had a tendency to build as sludge on the walls, valley and oil pans in motors. This made for a very blackend oil and absolutely greasy conditions inside an engine. I think they have since reformulated and corrected the problem, however the stigma still exists."

"I work in an automotive machine shop, rebuilding engines. We see all brands and sizes of engines. This week we completed a 9 liter intrnational diesel and several snowmobile engines. We do work for almost all of the new car dealers and many of the independants in town. Many of the garages in town are under contract to sell a certain brand of oil. When tearing failed engines apart to be rebuilt, I frequently find huge gobs of waxy buildup in the " " oiled engines. One 350 SBC that I disassembled had so much wax in the pan that oil pump could not suck up liquid oil anymore. That caused a spun #1 rod bearing, the engine quit running and was removed for rebuilding. I am aware that all oil has some wax in it from the ground.....It is very greasy and messy, takes much more effort to clean parts........But, it does assure me of a constant supply of failed engines. I can only go by what I have seen......and I would never put that waxy stuff in one of my engines. I don't get paid to fix my own stuff so I would rather it did not break."

"It completely gummed up the engine on my wifes Topaz. Oil starvation resulted and the engine FRIED! I know what it looked like because the mechanic showed me the engine after he had it apart. And I know the oil was changed regularly because I did it myself. I kept that engine well tuned, there were no internal coolant leaks, the PCV valve functioned fine. The mechanic asked me what oil we used and I told him: " " 5W30. He said that was believable because HE had seen many engines that had done that to. Never again will I use!"


There is no point to this post. I just thought I would have some lighthearted fun with everyone today with some Malarkey.
 
Originally Posted By: Bgallagher
Having a rough day. I needed that!


I am happy to help you out. I will award the prize to you.

But I fresh out of prizes. So you will win a thank you and better luck next time!

Also everyone who answered Pennzoil you are 1/2 correct.
 
Originally Posted By: tommygunn
Sounds like a buncha old farts talking about Pennzoil back in the day.



Actually this is very recent, it is funny how urban "facts" stick around.
 
Quaker Steak, thats where you get the grease and sludge problems
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Get it?

QUAKER STATE.
 
Took apart a 289 Ford that had nothing but Havoline,CAM2,CITGO and basically just cheap stuff all its life,and either KMart,LEE or Fram oil filters....and there was no sludge in the pan,none in the heads,and a clean oil pump pick up.Plus the vehicle sat around more than 1/2 the year.So I find it hard to believe some of these stories unless someone is driving 10000 miles between oil changes.
 
I could joke about what people do for "fun" in Maricopa. But I would not really be joking on what people talk about in Maricopa for fun and Arizona in general. But if you ever want some funny reading google inmaricopa dot com and you will see lively discussions about the people in this city. The police department discussions are very interesting to say the least. This is a city of about 40,000 people so your business is not your business if you know what I mean.
 
I say Pennzoil or Quaker State. I have heard more people complaining about QS than PZ.

When I was a teenager, me and my friends took apart a lot of motors; maybe 100s of small block Chevyes. I never saw any wax. The only time I saw a gooey mess was when coolant got into the oil. There was a lot of motors that were black and had hard carbon deposits, but no wax.
 
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Originally Posted By: NHGUY
Took apart a 289 Ford that had nothing but Havoline,CAM2,CITGO and basically just cheap stuff all its life,and either KMart,LEE or Fram oil filters....and there was no sludge in the pan,none in the heads,and a clean oil pump pick up.Plus the vehicle sat around more than 1/2 the year.So I find it hard to believe some of these stories unless someone is driving 10000 miles between oil changes.


Havoline is not cheap stuff. I would put it up against PYB or Mobil 5000 any day.
 
Originally Posted By: GumbyJarvis
Quaker Steak, thats where you get the grease and sludge problems
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Get it?

QUAKER STATE.
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Originally Posted By: NHGUY
So I find it hard to believe some of these stories unless someone is driving 10000 miles between oil changes.

My thoughts as well.

Waxy buildup? Nope that's just the sludge from the oil trying its best to lubricate after going well beyond its service life. Of course I suppose it could also be some sort of emulsification mixture from nimrods driving around for ages with coolant leaks.
 
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