Gonna do a cooling flush on the Fusion this summer
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stick with the ford gold.
If it has G-05 I would use Zerex G-05 (NAPA). Forget the flush, just drain and fill the radiator every couple of years. I would only flush is I determined there was something wrong with cooling system. No a general maint. procedure.
You can buy the pre-mix from Ford and just drain a gallon out and add a gallon every *insert preferred time range*.
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Originally Posted By: Donald
If it has G-05 I would use Zerex G-05 (NAPA). Forget the flush, just drain and fill the radiator every couple of years. I would only flush is I determined there was something wrong with cooling system. No a general maint. procedure.
Interesting.
I was always under the impression a system flush (radiator and heater core.) should be done with a coolant exchange. I plan on flushing/ exchanging the coolant in my Jeep this summer as well. (Ashland's Zerex G05)
If it has G-05 I would use Zerex G-05 (NAPA). Forget the flush, just drain and fill the radiator every couple of years. I would only flush is I determined there was something wrong with cooling system. No a general maint. procedure.
Interesting.
I was always under the impression a system flush (radiator and heater core.) should be done with a coolant exchange. I plan on flushing/ exchanging the coolant in my Jeep this summer as well. (Ashland's Zerex G05)
The cars I've used G-05 on were iron block and the G-05 starts to look cloudy and sometimes leaves crud around the inside of the reservoir if I go more than a few years.
Since g-05 is easy to find in full strength, I would drain and fill with tap water a couple of times, then fill with G-05 and distilled water.
And since its a ford, I would test or replace your coolant cap.
Since g-05 is easy to find in full strength, I would drain and fill with tap water a couple of times, then fill with G-05 and distilled water.
And since its a ford, I would test or replace your coolant cap.
Reference the Ford cooling chart
IIRC they both take Gold G-05
Spend the $8 for 2 new RS-527 expansion boggle caps
IIRC they both take Gold G-05
Spend the $8 for 2 new RS-527 expansion boggle caps
I will get a new cap then. I am undecided on a drain and fill vs a garden hose flush. I watched this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWIXa50R9bo
and was intrigued by the way he did this procedure. I have always just drained and filled with Zerex G05 in the past
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWIXa50R9bo
and was intrigued by the way he did this procedure. I have always just drained and filled with Zerex G05 in the past
^^^Interesting procedure especially his premixing to ~60-70% concentration before adding coolant. I've never had a vehicle where after a flush I couldn't add enough concentrated AF to a drained radiator to obtain a ~50% concentration using the total cooling system capacity spec and adding concentrated AF to half that capacity. Perhaps the Fusion can't be done that way.
And I guess using distilled water is not a priority with Ford or the Fusion?
If your Fusion specs G-05 which seems most likely I'd go with G-05, either MC Gold or Zerex whichever is less. If doing a flush, concentrate is the way to go. It would be my preference even for a simple radiator d&f and mix with distilled to ~50% concentration. But that's just me.
And I guess using distilled water is not a priority with Ford or the Fusion?
If your Fusion specs G-05 which seems most likely I'd go with G-05, either MC Gold or Zerex whichever is less. If doing a flush, concentrate is the way to go. It would be my preference even for a simple radiator d&f and mix with distilled to ~50% concentration. But that's just me.
Originally Posted By: sayjac
Perhaps the Fusion can't be done that way.
It would be my preference even for a simple radiator d&f and mix with distilled to ~50% concentration. But that's just me.
I've never seen a dealership use distilled water in my life and the car in the video is not a Fusion. He explains in the video since there is still water in the block that will not drain out, he uses a 70% concentration to offset the remainder.
I ordered a new cap off Amazon Prime today. Will get to a flush or drain and fill early next week sometime.
Perhaps the Fusion can't be done that way.
It would be my preference even for a simple radiator d&f and mix with distilled to ~50% concentration. But that's just me.
I've never seen a dealership use distilled water in my life and the car in the video is not a Fusion. He explains in the video since there is still water in the block that will not drain out, he uses a 70% concentration to offset the remainder.
I ordered a new cap off Amazon Prime today. Will get to a flush or drain and fill early next week sometime.
Originally Posted By: dwcopple
... I've never seen a dealership use distilled water in my life and the car in the video is not a Fusion. He explains in the video since there is still water in the block that will not drain out, he uses a 70% concentration to offset the remainder....
If the owners manual or other specific maintenance literature makes no mention of distilled water use then I guess tap water is acceptable. Or if it's just not important...
But the 60-70% premix makes no sense to me. I understand that there is water left in the block, that would be the same for any complete flush using water or a distilled d&f flush series.
If he can enough of a 60-70% AF concentration in then he could get enough full strength AF to a 50% concentration in and then top with distilled or tap water here.
In the specific case of the signature 2007 Fusion 3.0L awd cooling capacity according to Amsoil look up is ~9.7qts. If I'm doing it I'd add ~5qts of concentrated G05 first, then top with water (or distilled) to complete the procedure. That way I know I have ~50% AF concentration. Could adjust concentrate AF amount by adding more if a slightly greater concentration is desired.
It's the way I've always done it flushes where I could find/use concentrated AF. But if as shown, one can get enough 60-70% premixed in as shown in yt, then one should also be able to get at least 5qts of concentrated AF in and top with water, ~50% AF concentration.
... I've never seen a dealership use distilled water in my life and the car in the video is not a Fusion. He explains in the video since there is still water in the block that will not drain out, he uses a 70% concentration to offset the remainder....
If the owners manual or other specific maintenance literature makes no mention of distilled water use then I guess tap water is acceptable. Or if it's just not important...
But the 60-70% premix makes no sense to me. I understand that there is water left in the block, that would be the same for any complete flush using water or a distilled d&f flush series.
If he can enough of a 60-70% AF concentration in then he could get enough full strength AF to a 50% concentration in and then top with distilled or tap water here.
In the specific case of the signature 2007 Fusion 3.0L awd cooling capacity according to Amsoil look up is ~9.7qts. If I'm doing it I'd add ~5qts of concentrated G05 first, then top with water (or distilled) to complete the procedure. That way I know I have ~50% AF concentration. Could adjust concentrate AF amount by adding more if a slightly greater concentration is desired.
It's the way I've always done it flushes where I could find/use concentrated AF. But if as shown, one can get enough 60-70% premixed in as shown in yt, then one should also be able to get at least 5qts of concentrated AF in and top with water, ~50% AF concentration.
Don't know how else to explain it. The method I described and uses the specific cooling system capacity spec to determine/find and get a very close to ~50% AF concentration.
Perhaps because he was making a general yt for many Ford models he used the 60-70% mix to add to the block water. But that is a more vague method imo than using the cooling system capacity spec to determine and get to a known 50% AF concentration. Probable work ok, but I like being more precise using the known system capacity spec.
That said, if you like his 60-70% premixing technique added to water left in block, you should use it.
Perhaps because he was making a general yt for many Ford models he used the 60-70% mix to add to the block water. But that is a more vague method imo than using the cooling system capacity spec to determine and get to a known 50% AF concentration. Probable work ok, but I like being more precise using the known system capacity spec.
That said, if you like his 60-70% premixing technique added to water left in block, you should use it.
What year fusion? Some used specialty green.
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