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I love this place.
You rednecks get all bent when someone bags on your beloved, dark-ages GM/Ford/Chrysler, but you have the nerve to start and keep a "rice" thread going?
Too funny, but much more sad.

You lose all credibility here participating in this crap.
I can show you 10 pictures of redneck heaps for every "ricer" pic.
Anyone for a can or neon-orange spray paint for your pumpkins?

I'm not a basher, but as an owner of a SCION, this B-S is not needed here.

Stop already.

Scott

[ April 07, 2006, 02:20 PM: Message edited by: ScottB ]
 
I think it was just a little humor, the story he posted above.

Why are you upset??

Or do you have a wing or body kit on your Scion;)
 
I have the OEM rear spoiler, and a lot of TRD OEM goodies, yes.

I'll tell you why. I was PM-ing with a guy here about body shops. It was all cool until he asked what kind of car I had - then, the next reply was "RICE"

I don't care if anyone likes my car. I grew up on a '69 Mach1, and '69Z/28 and other goodies.

I like cars. I like motorcycles. I mostly own Japanese-branded vehicles now. Just the way it is. I almost bought a Mustang GT, a Crossfire and looked at PT Cruisers.

I don't like either side of the stupid - STUPID - you su¢k 'cause you drive/ride this or that threads.

Just the title alone says it.

I've seen far more people here upset over knocking US-automakers.

Just my 2¢
 
I agree, the propensity on this site is to bash any of the big 3 Big time. Some one mentions they might consider a GM, Ford or CG and 20 people chime in how bad their cars are.

I think the story above is ridculing the culture not any particular brand.
 
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Originally posted by Steve-O:
wow, for supposeably a forum with more knowledgeable and older members, there sure are a lot of ignorant comments made, and lots of blatant racist comments. Funny how this thread didn't get locked but others do.

oh btw, drag racing isn't everything.


Since when can one be "racist" against an inanimate object (a car)??!!
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Oh, and BTW, I am not racist against PEOPLE , my girlfriend is native mainland Chinese (Langzou), but is now an AMERICAN citizen. She too prefers American cars over Nippon models, she actually liked her beat up, '90 Olds better than her ex husband's '03 Gallant!!!!!!!!!!!!
Also, since drag racing is not everything, I'll take you on, any day, any "twisties" (gotta love that riceboy term/excuse) of your choice with my "rednecked, unreliable, straight line only" '00 Z28 (with the same compound tires as you, of course).
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[ April 07, 2006, 04:03 PM: Message edited by: dailydriver ]
 
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Originally posted by robbobster:
I think he's referring to "effective" displacement.

Sanctioning bodies often have diplacement multipliers for forced-indiction engines.

For example, years ago, it was 1.5 for Formula 1. A forced-induction engine's diplacement was multiplied by 1.5 to arrive at a "comparable" naturally aspirated displacement.

At any rate, I think he's figuring that he's adding the equivalent of 4.0L of displacement by putting huge boost (turbo or otherwise) into his 2.0L engine.


Yeah, it's funny how the Supra "dyno queens" convieniently forget about this when bragging about their 1200 hp 2Js, as in, "all this from 3 little liters". Well, when you run 60psi of boost through 3 liters via a huge single hairdryer, guess what, IT IS NO LONGER "just 3 little liters" !!!! It actually effectively becomes larger than a 600+ c.i. mountain motor, while putting out less power!!!
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She too prefers American cars over Nippon models, she actually liked her beat up, '90 Olds better than her ex husband's '03 Gallant!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, DUH! It's her ex-husband's car! LMAO
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Originally posted by ScottB:

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She too prefers American cars over Nippon models, she actually liked her beat up, '90 Olds better than her ex husband's '03 Gallant!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, DUH! It's her ex-husband's car! LMAO
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NO, she explicitly has stated that she likes the ride, feel, handling, etc. of what most of you nipponphiles would call, "one of the worst cars ever", to that marvel of Japanese "perfection"! BTW; she does not hate nor have any undue animosity towards her ex, so that's NOT what she's basing her opinion on!
 
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Originally posted by Steve-O:
wow, for supposeably a forum with more knowledgeable and older members, there sure are a lot of ignorant comments made, and lots of blatant racist comments. Funny how this thread didn't get locked but others do.

oh btw, drag racing isn't everything.


Next time try "supposedly" instead of "supposeably."
 
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Originally posted by NovaMan:

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Originally posted by Steve-O:
wow, for supposeably a forum with more knowledgeable and older members, there sure are a lot of ignorant comments made, and lots of blatant racist comments. Funny how this thread didn't get locked but others do.

oh btw, drag racing isn't everything.


Next time try "supposedly" instead of "supposeably."


Great - now we have a forum spellcheck.
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Look, the reality of things is that just like politics or anything else, the hardcore folks from too far to one side or another cause all of the polarity and all of the problems.

Are there lots of very good American performance cars? for sure.

Are there lots of very good foreign performance cars? for sure.

There are more or less two ways of getting performance, and neither is right or wrong, there are tradeoffs, and what is right for the user. There are also classes within 'performance' vehicles, which can be split by engine size, power output or whatever you want.

Anyone that wants to put a riced out civic or acura or similar up against a MT late model Z28 is an idiot... just plain stupid...

But then again, when someone has their nascar 'inspired' dual exhaust monte carlo, and tries to face off against a real souped up, turbocharged asian car, guess who is stupid then?

Sure, a lot of power can be made from tiny little honda engines... great. Id have to say that it is almost genius that so much power can be squeezed out of something designed for 100 hp... as opposed to a big v8 or similar. At the same time, lets face the realities of it. That big v8 car can be used in any situation, driven easily, driven hard, and do well all the time. That little 100 hp souped up engine is going to be a pain to drive in most normal situations... I think we can all guess which of the two vehicles is more suited for a track car, and which is more suited for both uses. My brother has a relatively fast, powerful 320 hp mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4. Its pretty hiogh performance, it is fast, and it does everything well... but it does have 3L in order to make some real usable power when not driving it to make 14psi and excessive power in day to day driving (=poor mpg).

Personal preference is a big deal... And as much as I hate the rice rocket look, with the vtec, type r and similar vinyls that ricers cut from sheet in their garage with a razor and stick on, its their choice. Anyone that is stupid enough to believe that they have something special is just plain an idiot, and anyone that would have anything to do with setting something like this up (unless there IS the dyno and track results to prove it) is also an idiot.

Of course there are the V8 rednecks and similar who have to rev their engines at every red light and peel out every chance they can... but even when down south, I see a lot less of them, and more and more ricers all the time.

The ricers really bring this upon themselves, because of the impression they give in their vehicle look, their driving skill, their safety in driving on a normal highway or in traffic, the realities of their cars' inherent inability to perform as they claim, etc.

I believe we call them posers... those who claim theyre special, have a souped up car, talk big, act big, but when push comes to shove cant back it. It doesnt matter if you have a civic with stickers, an auto trans porsche (I know a guy who became a laughing stock because he bought an AT prosche), etc. If you have a 650 hp rice rocket that will hold together for more than 5000 miles, good for you... your style might not be to my taste, but you did omething right... alas, most are just posers, NOT having anything fast or powerful.

Not that just because you have an American V8 'performance car', youre immediately driving under 6 seconds 0-60, fast quarter miles, good handling, etc. Most people with older Mustang GTs and whatnot dont really have very fast cars... some drive like they do, but in the big scheme of things, while faster than their mother's sedan by quite a bit, theyre not exactly in the highest ranks of speed and ability either. At least most of them dont show off in an entirely obnoxious way.

AMaybe a good thing to do is look at how the europeans are doing things. In reality, there is a lot of real engineering knowhow, and the europeans do know how to make high performance cars really well. well, whats the trend? AWD, RWD... like the US performance cars, and bigger engines, like the US performance cars. Their daily drivers are dinky engine entities, aliong the lines of the hondas and whatnot, but when they want performance, they add a few high tech tricks to what has been the american mainstay setup... RWD and a big engine.

In the end, if you cant back up your claims, youre an idiot... period. There are a LOT more ricer idiots than there are v8 engine idiots. At least in my part of the world, which is where a huge portion of the population is anyway. Idiots are idiots, and by any other name are still the same... doesnt matter what car type they drive. Avoid them at all costs, they will do nothing but make you angry and compromise your safety.

JMH
 
Funny how we had the Nations fast Import drag racers "RICER'S" at our track (Moroso) last weekend and none of them came over and raced our little local quick-16 bracket race with a chance for $3,000... not a one even tried. Heck the bump spot was only 7.40.
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Dragracing RICER'S is super expensive and seems like a mindless challange, unless doing things the hardway is your bag.
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Just goes to show that it's all talk and no action when it comes to racing against the old school American V8's.
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Never come to a Gun fight with a pop gun...lol
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their safety in driving on a normal highway or in traffic

No wonder why the 2-Door Honda Civic is one of the most expensive cars to insure, at least with State Farm.

The Liability Rating Index (LRI) and Damage/Theft Index (DRI) are both "charged significantly higher-than-standard premium" and the Vehicle Safety Discount is 0%.

http://www.statefarm.com/insuranc/auto/veh_rating/honda.htm

EDIT: Since a few other car models were mentioned:

The 2-Door Ford Mustang has the same ratings as the 2-Door Honda Civic.

The Impala has "charged standard premium" for both LRI and DRI, and a 10% vehicle safety discount.

The Scion TC has "charged somewhat higher-than-standard premium" for LRI, "charged significantly higher-than-standard premium" for DRI, and a 10% vehicle safety discount.

These are for 2002-2006 models. I suspect that vehicles that tend to be driven in an unsafe manner have poorer LRI ratings.

[ April 08, 2006, 05:03 PM: Message edited by: brianl703 ]
 
my saab 9-3 gets a 40% discount... cant beat that.

How do you get to the main page for the rating, so that you can look at all makes? I just changed your URL from honda to saab... but there must be a clickable way.

Thanks!

JMH
 
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Why can't car/moto heads all just agree to live and let live and appreciate that we all have the same basic interests at heart?

My thoughts exactly. I'm much more impressed by someone who can drive whatever car they happen to be driving as fast as it's capable of going than someone who ordered some parts from a catalog and runs at a moderate pace for the vehicle, regardless of what motorsport you're talking about.

The level of ignorance in this thread is astounding, especially for a site that has so much intelligent technical info elsewhere.
 
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Originally posted by Nick29:

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Why can't car/moto heads all just agree to live and let live and appreciate that we all have the same basic interests at heart?

My thoughts exactly...

The level of ignorance in this thread is astounding, especially for a site that has so much intelligent technical info elsewhere.


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Scott
 
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