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Congrat on quitting!

My dad quit one day when he realized he might not live long enough to see his yet to be born grand son/daughter. He tried quitting in the past and picked it back up due to stress.

Like all of you, he substituted it with another hobby (chewing dried olives grown in his home country) and then all sorts of dried stuff. Now he has been smoke free for almost 10 years and he couldn't stand 2nd hand smoke as well.

He is a cheapskate, so in a way he is glad that he didn't have to pay for the ridiculous high cost.
 
I don't smoke. But as SrDriver said, you can grow your own. I grew a crop of two different tobaccos this past summer (they aren't yet cured). The guys at work who do smoke and pay the rediculous Michigan tax rate are keenly interested in my success.

For what cigarettes cost over the year - up to $4K - one can grow their own and build their own curing chamber for a lot less.
 
3 family members smoked in my family, and all eventually quit. I was impressed how my Dad could roll his own with one hand ... Vogue tobacco. Almost forgot, that was roll with one hand while driving too.
 
Originally Posted By: Kestas
I don't smoke. But as SrDriver said, you can grow your own. I grew a crop of two different tobaccos this past summer (they aren't yet cured). The guys at work who do smoke and pay the rediculous Michigan tax rate are keenly interested in my success.

For what cigarettes cost over the year - up to $4K - one can grow their own and build their own curing chamber for a lot less.


That's not a bad idea - I bet a few plants might yeild a pretty good sack of pipe tobacco.
 
I'm going e-cigs here pretty soon. Congress will soon vote on the PACT act, which basically outlaws the shipment of anything tobacco.
 
Originally Posted By: daddi
Since we're on a cigarette rant I'll throw my 2 cents in. I absolutely cannnot stand people who throw out their butts from a car, or when they are outside on the ground. I mean I just don't throw out my McDonalds wrappers and soda cans when I'm done with them and pollute our earth. I can understand the dumb kids who do it..but people who are 30, 40, or older should have a lick of common sense.

Whenever the dum bass kid above me in the apartment has his friends over for a party, they all hang out on his deck(right above mine) and smoke constantly. I wake up in the morning to find about 8 thousand butts in the grass next to my patio. Smokers just don't get it..they are always complaining about non-smokers bustin their chops...Most of their problems they cause for themselves!!!


+1

My dad calls it attempted arson and believes they should be arrested for it. After you see a few fires from this activity, you start to understand that he might have a point.
 
Originally Posted By: opus1



I have no problem with anyone who chooses to smoke as long as they're respectful; the butt's post above is a good example of the disprespect we see. A woman who I worked with and I would go out to lunch now and then and she smoked. Parking at the job was scarce coming back from lunch so we had an arrangement; if she wanted to smoke, she drove her car and lost her spot. If she wanted to keep her spot, I drove and she didn't smoke. Worked rather well.

I have a huge problem with governments making it illegal to smoke just about anywhere, like Illinois recently did. If a bar-owner wants to allow smoking in his bar, and makes it clear at the door that this is a smoking-allowed establishment, that's his business. If you don't want to experience the smoke, there are other bars out there. IMHO, there's a huge inconsistenty here; the government subsidizes tobacco's growth, taxes the heck out of its users, then doesn't let them use the stuff. If it's that bad, don't subsidize the crop.


I agree with what you say on this. My step-son is 34 and when he comes here, like his mom, they go out to smoke because this has always been a smoke free home. Only thing is that he would throw his butts down on the ground out back and in front. He stopped after his mom made him pick them up.

Like you say, if it's a private business, it should be the owner's decision if one smokes in their business or not.
 
I remember when I was a kid and you could put a quarter in a machine and get a pack of cigarettes. We would buy cigarettes to light firecrackers. We thought we were cool riding our bicycles around with a lit cigarette lighting firecrackers. After they went to 35 cents a pack, we stopped buying them.

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Originally Posted By: Loobed

I remember when I was a kid and you could put a quarter in a machine and get a pack of cigarettes. We would buy cigarettes to light firecrackers. We thought we were cool riding our bicycles around with a lit cigarette lighting firecrackers. After they went to 35 cents a pack, we stopped buying them.

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I remember those cool old cigarette machines. They had one at the old Sinclair gas station down the street when I was a kid. I think they had an option where you could get some matches if you needed them when you bought some smokes. They had the service stations logo on them.
 
I am in the process of quitting for the umpteenth jillioneth time. I am currently about 2 days from my last hand rolled Prince Albert. But when I'm on the wagon, I wear a 14mg patch. It is easy once I realized with the patch, I can take it off and smoke, then just put the patch back on and resume not smoking. Right now store brand patches are 50% of what a carton of cigarettes costs. That bothered me when I went slipped back in '01. For the last 8 yrs I've been hand rolling my way to emphysema. Well, I was just about there when I was diagnosed with breast cancer. Quitting need not be an all or nothing proposition. You can just not smoke as much as you can. Which is better than just plain smoking.
 
Originally Posted By: Cutehumor
if you guys quit smoking, how are the doctors going to afford their boat payments??


When people live longer, they need more expensive medical care for a longer life too.

The insurance guy told me the most affordable way to meet your retirement goal is to smoke, so you live a shorter life and you can afford retirement easier.
 
Originally Posted By: ddrumman2004

Like you say, if it's a private business, it should be the owner's decision if one smokes in their business or not.


Well...not exactly. If the business is open to the public, they have an obligation to observe some reasonable standards to protect their patrons. If the business owner allowed containers of noxious chemicals to be set out on tables, you would think that the health department would object. Not much different if the owner allows and condones substance abusers who spew forth the same toxic chemicals.

I can't help but think that folks are going to look back from maybe 50-100 years from now and wonder how stupid people must have been to voluntarily burn trashy plants and inhale the toxic fumes into lungs meant to breath only clean air.
 
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$87 for a carton is crazy. Around here name brands are maybe $40 at grocery stores.


I never smoked, but if prices kept going up I'm sure some smokers would think of better ways to burn their money (pun intended)
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I don't smoke, but I wonder how the poor trashy people around my house can afford $8.50 per pack?

Even the off brand cigarettes are $6 per pack.

No wonder the local Indian reservation is packed with cars buying tax free cigarettes every hour of every day.
 
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