Getting a quote for new siding today.

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Have had the same vinyl Dutch lap siding on our beach house for decades...it was put on long before we bought the place 15 years ago. But we've had a persistent leak after certain wind driven rain storms and can't track it down but know it's not the roof.
It's also tired looking.
It's siding over tar paper over the original T-111.
I want Tyvek or similar and not a fan of the wood shingle appearance siding. Prefer the straight, clean lines with maybe the scalloped textured type for the front as an accent.
Most of the new homes around are HardiePlank. But they're also $3-$7 million dollar new construction homes.
This is the style I like overall. Anybody with recent experience? Brands? One style over another?
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I have the very same type of vinyl siding as you are showing in your picture. We had ours installed over 15 years ago. Have been very satisfied with ours. Our siding was made by Alside, we used a local company to install it and we got new vinyl windows at the same time. Been very happy. They installed 1/4 inch styrofoam behind our siding but your idea of Tyvek I believe would be better. Stay with a lite color it will fade some.
 
I have the very same type of vinyl siding as you are showing in your picture. We had ours installed over 15 years ago. Have been very satisfied with ours. Our siding was made by Alside, we used a local company to install it and we got new vinyl windows at the same time. Been very happy. They installed 1/4 inch styrofoam behind our siding but your idea of Tyvek I believe would be better. Stay with a lite color it will fade some.
We've got R-25 fiberglass in between the walls...and it's 7 blocks from the ocean and 30 yards from the bay...never seen them used foam panels down here.
 
Do not over look LP Smart side , Go on their web site they show damage test against Hardi Plank and LP siding and LP siding was more durable in torture testing.Mine house got LP Smart Siding 1 year ago and the city inspector was there for final inspection in a large city and he said that LP is the way to go.Also my insurance agent of 30 years experience did his house in LP smart side,that has to tell you something!
 
Guy showed up exactly on time...but Ivr used him for projects in the past. Didn't want to replace the vinyl lattice covering underneath both staircases...$5000 to redo with Azek... no.
Board and batton for the front peak, wrap back porch posts with Azek... Front is already done. House wrap will be Tyvek and some tan shade of bead edge vinyl siding.
Will have a price next week.
 
The Tyvek in your case will be your "Water Resistive Barrier" (WRB). It is critical that the WRB be installed with great care if you hope to avoid water intrusion in the future (as well as effectively air seal your home) as this is your real line of defense against it. This means paying attention to your overlapping seams, taping all seams and sealing it with diligence at both the top and bottom as protection against wind driven rain.

IMO, a better choice than Tyvek are the current generation of self adhesive house wrap membranes. The one I prefer to use is a product by Benjamin Obdyke called "Hydrogap", which also creates a drying space behind your finished exterior (shingles, claps, LP Smartside, Hardieplank, etc). It is not a specialty product and is widely available (in stock) here in the Northeast. There are similar products available from a number of other manufacturers. The big advantage of these products (IMO) is that they eliminate the need to drive fasteners (putting many, many extra holes) through your WRB and it makes installation easier and less $$... and no plastic "buttons" required (!)

I have used a number of synthetic siding materials on homes in challenging climates and locations (coastal direct waterfront most notably) including LP B&B, LP clapboards, Hardieplank, Azek and all the common natural wood products in various species.

From my experience, Hardieplank, applied correctly, holds paint amazingly well - we've never had any peel. It is a bit unpleasant to work with (cut) as it creates a lot of dust which should not be inhaled so protection is prudent. It is also heavy and some care must be taken in carrying longer lengths so as not to snap it.

We have used LP B&B, claps and t1-11"esque" forms. It holds paint well, is available prepainted for a very low upcharge (highly recommend this if their colors work for you) and is as easy to work with as any similar-form wood product. It is also available in 16' lengths, which is nice if you have longer runs and are trying to minimize seams. B&B (in general) pay particular attention to seam caulking to avoid trapping water which can cause big headaches down the line. We have used Level clear caulk exclusively for many years - it is amazing stuff and we'd never go back to silicone caulks - We've used this for 5 years now and have experienced no issues with its durability. We are finishing off a lakefront house right now using repainted LP B&B.

I have a real dislike of Azek principally due to its expansion/contraction characteristics (and price!). You need to leave big gaps at ends and it will always look sloppy as a result. And in our climate, invariably we get some occasional cracking/splitting between nails which obviously looks horrible and requires expensive rework to remediate. We prefer to use a product called Boral, which doesn't have these issues and is probably more durable long-term. It is bade of fly-ash in a binder and does not rot. Our crews vastly prefer working with this to working with Azek and similar. Care must be taken when carrying longer lengths as it can snap.

Hopefully, some of this information is useful to you - good luck with your project!

All the foregoing is just my opinion based on my experience, YMMV
 
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The Tyvek in your case will be your "Water Resistive Barrier" (WRB). It is critical that the WRB be installed with great care if you hope to avoid water intrusion in the future (as well as effectively air seal your home) as this is your real line of defense against it. This means paying attention to your overlapping seams, taping all seams and sealing it with diligence at both the top and bottom as protection against wind driven rain.

IMO, a better choice than Tyvek are the current generation of self adhesive house wrap membranes. The one I prefer to use is a product by Benjamin Obdyke called "Hydrogap", which also creates a drying space behind your finished exterior (shingles, claps, LP Smartside, Hardieplank, etc). It is not a specialty product and is widely available (in stock) here in the Northeast. There are similar products available from a number of other manufacturers. The big advantage of these products (IMO) is that they eliminate the need to drive fasteners (putting many, many extra holes) through your WRB and it makes installation easier and less $$... and no plastic "buttons" required (!)

I have used a number of synthetic siding materials on homes in challenging climates and locations (coastal direct waterfront most notably) including LP B&B, LP clapboards, Hardieplank, Azek and all the common natural wood products in various species.

From my experience, Hardieplank, applied correctly, holds paint amazingly well - we've never had any peel. It is a bit unpleasant to work with (cut) as it creates a lot of dust which should not be inhaled so protection is prudent. It is also heavy and some care must be taken in carrying longer lengths so as not to snap it.

We have used LP B&B, claps and t1-11"esque" forms. It holds paint well, is available prepainted for a very low upcharge (highly recommend this if their colors work for you) and is as easy to work with as any similar-form wood product. It is also available in 16' lengths, which is nice if you have longer runs and are trying to minimize seams. B&B (in general) pay particular attention to seam caulking to avoid trapping water which can cause big headaches down the line. We have used Level clear caulk exclusively for many years - it is amazing stuff and we'd never go back to silicone caulks - We've used this for 5 years now and have experienced no issues with its durability. We are finishing off a lakefront house right now using repainted LP B&B.

I have a real dislike of Azek principally due to its expansion/contraction characteristics (and price!). You need to leave big gaps at ends and it will always look sloppy as a result. And in our climate, invariably we get some occasional cracking/splitting between nails which obviously looks horrible and requires expensive rework to remediate. We prefer to use a product called Boral, which doesn't have these issues and is probably more durable long-term. It is bade of fly-ash in a binder and does not rot. Our crews vastly prefer working with this to working with Azek and similar. Care must be taken when carrying longer lengths as it can snap.

Hopefully, some of this information is useful to you - good luck with your project!

All the foregoing is just my opinion based on my experience, YMMV
All good information but Azek is the go-to for trim and wrap in this environment and it works. I'm going with the best price for Tyvek and a decent quality bead edge siding.
 
I redid my 1500 square foot 1950s Cape Cod two years ago. Went from all aluminum to Vinyl. We went with KP Dakota series vinyl. It looks great and feels way better than most of the other brands that we handled. The nail hem is rated for up to 201 MPH winds and last year we had 80 MPH straight line winds from a microburst. Our house is the only one within .75-1 miles that didn’t lose any siding. Total cost was around $18K.
 
I am looking too. What is your opinion of the siding that has a foam backing... Is it worth the extra cost???
Not for our place. Walls, crawlspace and attic are already adequately insulated and exterior insulation isn't used in coastal environment homes from what I've learned.
 
So sticker shock...big time. Guy called this afternoon with verbal quote before writing to out in detail...$38,000
This is a 2100 sf home. Simple rectangle footprint. So maybe each side is 40x20 maximum and front and back are 30x20x2?
New vinyl soffit and new fascia. Azek Wraps for 2x 20 6x6posts.
Removal of old siding and tar paper and wrap with Tyvek.
Maybe 12 vinyl mounting blocks total.

I'm estimating conservatively $14,000 in materials and dumpster cost....so $24,000 in labor??? Seems totally outrageous. Granted, very expensive oceanfront town zip code 08202(I'm not on the ocean and some of the values hit $20+million)Maybe $2.4 million property value...but that still doesn't justify actual labor and materials cost...or maybe I'm just out to lunch on the reality of prices in the area.
 
I am looking too. What is your opinion of the siding that has a foam backing... Is it worth the extra cost???
Waste of money. Does absolutely nothing because vinyl siding self-ventilates. It allows air to move behind it which helps dry any moisture.

If you want foam on an existing wall you want to use a crinkle house wrap and then attach rigid foam board and then vinyl siding. The thickness of the foam board will depend on your climate zone.
 
Waste of money. Does absolutely nothing because vinyl siding self-ventilates. It allows air to move behind it which helps dry any moisture.

If you want foam on an existing wall you want to use a crinkle house wrap and then attach rigid foam board and then vinyl siding. The thickness of the foam board will depend on your climate zone.
I was thinking the foam backing would also act as a slight noise barrier too...
 
Got another quote...$29,000. But additional $3750 for the Azek J Pocket 5/4x4" window and door trim. Also want to add 5" gutters on both sides but I don't think gutters are too expensive.
Still waiting on 3-4 other quotes.
But $9000 less is significant.
 
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