General Q about investing/returns etc...

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I won't have anything to do with residential rental property around here. Never did, but with all the meth labs going, definitely too risky now. If a renter has a meth lab discovered, environmental regulations virtually require your house be destroyed. People doing this have been teachers, highly paid industrial workers, etc., so you can't really tell.

Even if you have no knowleadge of it, don't expect insurance or the feds to cover your loss.
 
Hmm. I'm a total novice except for my XM radio stock hit. The house I'm selling was a 140 year-old shell that I rehabbed out of pocket money. I have bad credit, so I probally should just pay cash for a car..or do a partial loan to get my credit improved. This subject is really too complicated for an on-line consultation...but I thank you all for your input.
 
Very OT, but its a good point haley.

IMO, rent prices are going to go through the roof sooner or later, with all of the (a) folks being priced out of affordable housing near work, (b) immigrants, or illegals from south of the border often up to no good (c) people doing bad stuff like mentioned above (d) people scamming the system. Its just becoming more and more of a risk. My GF even commented while we were at my apartment in DE, how many trashy people have moved in. Two years ago, it was filled with young professionals, now there are neighbors drunk and on drugs, police coming around, and generally trashy people populating the area. The only decent ones are the Indian immigrants living cheaply with their family. And its not like my rent is bargain basement.

Too bad all the reasonably close spots that are half decent to live in and have a decent commute (read $6000/yr and fast rising or (usually AND) have prices way too high for single income young professional to handle. Maybe Im too picky though.

JMH
 
Good points already.

So what's wrong with what you just did for that nice chunk of change?
Do you work?

If you can get 4%, sure - but....as also stated go for growth. You are a young feller! The market IS high now....and 4% secure (more or less) interest is a sign/symptom of this.

I wouldn't pay too much for (lousy/guessing) financial adivisors. I'm not saying they are all hacks/crooks, but they don't have magic either. If you don't want to try and pick stocks (hard work) - get some good (low expense) mutual funds.

Use a tiny fraction of the money to get a couple good financial mags, WSJ and IBD - plus a financial newletter. These are relatively inexpensive and you can learn a TON.
 
A lot of financial advisors are mostly interested in putting you into load mutual funds where about 5% of your money is skimmed off the top and they split it with their companies. Yet there are hundreds of good no load funds where all your money goes to work for you.

Also, some advisors will try to sell you whole or universal life insurance. Generally a bad idea to mix life insurance with investments though--very costly.
 
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Originally posted by TallPaul:
A lot of financial advisors are mostly interested in putting you into load mutual funds where about 5% of your money is skimmed off the top and they split it with their companies. Yet there are hundreds of good no load funds where all your money goes to work for you.


Look for an advisor that works completely from direct fees that they charge you.

Stay away from advisors that make their money by selling you things. They have a serious conflict of interest.
 
Hmm, do you think I can use a mortgage calc to figure out the monthly earnings on a given principal?
 
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Originally posted by XS650:

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Originally posted by TallPaul:
A lot of financial advisors are mostly interested in putting you into load mutual funds where about 5% of your money is skimmed off the top and they split it with their companies. Yet there are hundreds of good no load funds where all your money goes to work for you.


Look for an advisor that works completely from direct fees that they charge you.

Stay away from advisors that make their money by selling you things. They have a serious conflict of interest.


It is called "fee for service", the advisor charges you and get no "kickback" on what you are invested in. It is the only way to buy advise.
 
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It is called "fee for service", the advisor charges you and get no "kickback" on what you are invested in. It is the only way to buy advise.

Thanks for jogging my memory. Also get the no kickback part in writing. A good fee for service advisor will be proud to make that guarantee.
 
Making $1000/mo barely qualifies me as a taxpayer. What about putting some amount (max?) into a "retirement" fund like an IRA???
 
I'm selling a home in CC Phila for HUGE profit. I'm used to getting by on meger income, I don't have morgage, kids etc. I also have an appt building in the Poconos that will yield me $1000/mo and I'll probally live with my wife whose house costs is a non-issue. At some point, I'll have a decent inheritance too, a $500k home and a few $100k in stocks etc. I'm 40 years old. Anyway, what I want to know is how to invest the money from this house sale. It'll be about $400k before taxes. What I want is about $1000/month guaranteed income to pay a car payment and a few bills. Extra pocket money will come from when my appt building is doing ok, when it's not I will just have a lil less. So, I want $1000/mo from the investment, which might actually be as small as $300k, and I want to re-invest the remainder of the monthly interest back into the pot. Is this realistic? About what percent can I count on from conservative investment? Also, I don't mind doing some stock/riskier investment too, I'll have the time/patience for that. What should I do/expect??? Thanks a lot.
 
Honestly, with the indices as they are right now, peaking compared to yearly averages, Id hold off. Id likely stick a chunk in ING direct, maybe put some into a 1, or 2 year CD (3.7-3.9%), the rest will be getting 3%. By no means a long-term investment, but Id likely want to sit it like that right now. However, Id probably make a 25-30k ameritrade account to do a little side investing in some jewels, and maybe augment a little bit by doing that.

This would give you security and pop a little money out. Once again, its not a long-term plan. Ive read that ~50/50 allocation in an index s&p and index bond fund is historically an excellent way to minimize risk, minimize loss, and minimize fees.

Likely for you, Id be more concerned about getting your money out with minimal taxation issues. Im not knowledgable on real estate sale taxes, but it seems to me that the rate is pretty high.

Maybe you ought to invest at least some into rental properties that you can claim for a year or so to be primary residence (living somewhere else for a year isnt that hard to do). If youre already invested in the poconos, what about looking in E. Stroudsburg, near the university? Univ. towns tend to have some stability, and always need rentals. If you can claim a unit as a residence, couldnt you skirt the tax issue and then gain a larger "return" on the virtue of having not lost a lot of $$$ in taxes?

Just babbling... just a thought.

JMH
 
If you need $1000 per month, then you need to get something that can consistently yield 4% after taxes. Decide how much risk you want to take. If you need a guaranteed income stream for your car payment every month, then go with a CD or some vehicle that is relatively safe. Consider your tax consequences, and you may want to find a tax-exempt vehicle for investment to minimize your tax bite.

For long term investing, I generally invest in Index stock funds because I can follow the returns easily by reading the S&P index in the newspaper. I also have invested in health care funds, and gotten good returns. The health care funds carry more risk in general than the index funds, and neither may guarantee the $1000 monthly return you need.

Until you decide, park your money into either a regular or Tax exempt money market fund, so you can start earning money on the principal. You can then move money into your choices of funds easily by writing a check against that account.

In the meantime, research your options, determine your risk threshold, and then deliberately invest. In all cases, if you invest in mutual funds, go with the no-load funds. Paying commissions to a middle man does not enhance investment returns.

Hope this info helps get you started.
 
ETF's have lower MER's. ETF's can be bought and sold at the drop of a hat. ETF's have lower taxable distributions of incurred capital gains during mass redemptions.

http://www.etfzone.com has a nice chart under the heading of 'tax advantages'. During the recent market contraction, the average ETF distributed 0.31% of its value as capital gains, while traditional mutual funds distributed 5.87%.

If you pay capital gains tax, that is a huge difference in your overall tax bill during a downcycle.

Also, ETF's have many other advantages. For example, most brokers (at least in Canada) are reluctant to margin traditional index funds (or mutual funds in general), while they will gleefully margin ETF's with 30% required margin. You can also short ETF's, whereas mutual funds cannot be short sold. And fairly liquid markets exist for options on ETF's whereas they do not exist for mutual funds.
 
Why make car payments, just pay it off. I tend to agree with the CDs. Ladder them so some come due every month. That way you have reserves available in case something comes up.

Also, I would be inclined to invest some in stock mutual funds. Not sure how much. Out of 300,000, maybe 10 to 15 percent. If it goes up, great. If it goes down, add to it.
 
AJ, you are 40 yrs. old and haven't developed a relationship with a professional financial advisor or brokerage firm?? This calls for professional advice, so I won't attempt it. I'm sure others will chime in.

Unless you have some unusual deal, you might want to consider paying off the car in one whack and not dealing with these payments.

You are an awfully young guy to be focusing on current income rather than long term growth from such an investment, but I don't know your situation.

You really need a complete analysis of your total situation including retirement and tax planning etc.
 
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