General paranoia
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I would say that paranoia, and/or the promotion of it, has become the norm through everything from the 24 hour news cycle and the internet to experiencing the tech bubble burst in the early 2000s followed by the mortgage / stock market meltdown in the late 2000s.
If you add retail chain computer hacks, government agency computer hacks, ongoing and morphing job worries, no real option for many to stay ahead of inflation than equities...which can make them overly paranoid about losing money given the market over the last 15 years...then it appears a lot of it is built in and not leaving us or, for that matter, particularly paranoid in the sense that there will likely be something new tomorrow.
If you add retail chain computer hacks, government agency computer hacks, ongoing and morphing job worries, no real option for many to stay ahead of inflation than equities...which can make them overly paranoid about losing money given the market over the last 15 years...then it appears a lot of it is built in and not leaving us or, for that matter, particularly paranoid in the sense that there will likely be something new tomorrow.
Not new, just different. It was the Red Scare, The Plague, The British are Coming, the Inquisition, the Saber Tooth Tiger, etc before.
We simply have different things to fear today.
Originally Posted By: Vuflanovsky
I would say that paranoia, and/or the promotion of it, has become the norm through everything from the 24 hour news cycle and the internet to experiencing the tech bubble burst in the early 2000s followed by the mortgage / stock market meltdown in the late 2000s.
If you add retail chain computer hacks, government agency computer hacks, ongoing and morphing job worries, no real option for many to stay ahead of inflation than equities...which can make them overly paranoid about losing money given the market over the last 15 years...then it appears a lot of it is built in and not leaving us or, for that matter, particularly paranoid in the sense that there will likely be something new tomorrow.
We simply have different things to fear today.
Originally Posted By: Vuflanovsky
I would say that paranoia, and/or the promotion of it, has become the norm through everything from the 24 hour news cycle and the internet to experiencing the tech bubble burst in the early 2000s followed by the mortgage / stock market meltdown in the late 2000s.
If you add retail chain computer hacks, government agency computer hacks, ongoing and morphing job worries, no real option for many to stay ahead of inflation than equities...which can make them overly paranoid about losing money given the market over the last 15 years...then it appears a lot of it is built in and not leaving us or, for that matter, particularly paranoid in the sense that there will likely be something new tomorrow.
The wife and I have talked it over. If there ever is a doomsday scenario (walking dead or such), we'll only do so much. Why continue to live in such miserable conditions? We'll be food for someone else.
There is a group of people called preppers who not only prepare and plan to do anything to stay alive but I truly believe are hoping something happens.
There is a group of people called preppers who not only prepare and plan to do anything to stay alive but I truly believe are hoping something happens.
Fear controls the masses. It's that simple. Whether it's religion,the state,the commies,the Muslims.its all the same.
You've got various powers that be who need the masses to see things their way. So they find something to scare you and look what happens.
Once they've got fear instilled the masses happily give away freedom in the name of security. It's been happening since the dawn of man.
The reality is freedom is just a word,and none of us are free. We are slaves. Whether we are slaves to the almighty dollar,to God,whatever none of us is truly free.
Sure we get to make basic choices in our lives however we exist in a system. That system collapses if we choose not to play. Government needs us in the game.
Look around. No society is truly free.
The Indians were the last of the truly free men.
You've got various powers that be who need the masses to see things their way. So they find something to scare you and look what happens.
Once they've got fear instilled the masses happily give away freedom in the name of security. It's been happening since the dawn of man.
The reality is freedom is just a word,and none of us are free. We are slaves. Whether we are slaves to the almighty dollar,to God,whatever none of us is truly free.
Sure we get to make basic choices in our lives however we exist in a system. That system collapses if we choose not to play. Government needs us in the game.
Look around. No society is truly free.
The Indians were the last of the truly free men.
Originally Posted By: turtlevette
There is a group of people called preppers who not only prepare and plan to do anything to stay alive but I truly believe are hoping something happens.
I'd agree with that. I can understand that some people wish to live off the grid, live off the land, live as hermits, or whatever the case may be. I've known and dealt with people like that. Those are at least somewhat rational choices.
However, if someone wishes to live a normal middle class life, but prepares for some scenario, just so they can live like the people I mentioned above, well, you're onto something about them "hoping" for something happening. It's a tad odd.
The guys who will survive whatever doomsday scenario are the guys I mentioned at top. Ted Kaczynski, maladjusted as he was, had more individualist type survival skills than the vast majority of these "preppers." The people I mentioned do know how to live off the land, and practice that every day of their lives.
There is a group of people called preppers who not only prepare and plan to do anything to stay alive but I truly believe are hoping something happens.
I'd agree with that. I can understand that some people wish to live off the grid, live off the land, live as hermits, or whatever the case may be. I've known and dealt with people like that. Those are at least somewhat rational choices.
However, if someone wishes to live a normal middle class life, but prepares for some scenario, just so they can live like the people I mentioned above, well, you're onto something about them "hoping" for something happening. It's a tad odd.
The guys who will survive whatever doomsday scenario are the guys I mentioned at top. Ted Kaczynski, maladjusted as he was, had more individualist type survival skills than the vast majority of these "preppers." The people I mentioned do know how to live off the land, and practice that every day of their lives.
Originally Posted By: Clevy
Fear controls the masses. It's that simple. Whether it's religion,the state,the commies,the Muslims.its all the same.
You've got various powers that be who need the masses to see things their way. So they find something to scare you and look what happens.
Once they've got fear instilled the masses happily give away freedom in the name of security. It's been happening since the dawn of man.
The reality is freedom is just a word,and none of us are free. We are slaves. Whether we are slaves to the almighty dollar,to God,whatever none of us is truly free.
Sure we get to make basic choices in our lives however we exist in a system. That system collapses if we choose not to play. Government needs us in the game.
Look around. No society is truly free.
The Indians were the last of the truly free men.
Too late to edit.
The North american Indian refused to play by our rules,nor join our game. So we exterminated them.
It's funny. The whole scalping thing was the United states government. It was the way a person could collect the bounty.
That's right. The American government put a bounty on an entire nation and paid for proof of death.
Once the natives saw this they returned the favour. But the Indians are savages.
Right.
So if you look closely things haven't changed much. The American government still employs private citizens(private military contractors)to go and kill those who won't play by their rules. And if that doesn't work they send in the full time regulars to do it.
Sure they paint it as a war on terror,but let's get serious here. Who is the real terrorist.
If america wants to survive big changes need to happen. It's much more than just government.
There is a reason it seems like the whole world doesn't like america. It's not the people as a whole. In my experience there are some very good people there. It's foreign policy that turns the worlds guts.
And now that most manufacturing has gone to China America doesn't have the resources as they did in ww2. So it's a battle they can't win.
China is waiting. Once they close the purse up america runs out of options.
Fear controls the masses. It's that simple. Whether it's religion,the state,the commies,the Muslims.its all the same.
You've got various powers that be who need the masses to see things their way. So they find something to scare you and look what happens.
Once they've got fear instilled the masses happily give away freedom in the name of security. It's been happening since the dawn of man.
The reality is freedom is just a word,and none of us are free. We are slaves. Whether we are slaves to the almighty dollar,to God,whatever none of us is truly free.
Sure we get to make basic choices in our lives however we exist in a system. That system collapses if we choose not to play. Government needs us in the game.
Look around. No society is truly free.
The Indians were the last of the truly free men.
Too late to edit.
The North american Indian refused to play by our rules,nor join our game. So we exterminated them.
It's funny. The whole scalping thing was the United states government. It was the way a person could collect the bounty.
That's right. The American government put a bounty on an entire nation and paid for proof of death.
Once the natives saw this they returned the favour. But the Indians are savages.
Right.
So if you look closely things haven't changed much. The American government still employs private citizens(private military contractors)to go and kill those who won't play by their rules. And if that doesn't work they send in the full time regulars to do it.
Sure they paint it as a war on terror,but let's get serious here. Who is the real terrorist.
If america wants to survive big changes need to happen. It's much more than just government.
There is a reason it seems like the whole world doesn't like america. It's not the people as a whole. In my experience there are some very good people there. It's foreign policy that turns the worlds guts.
And now that most manufacturing has gone to China America doesn't have the resources as they did in ww2. So it's a battle they can't win.
China is waiting. Once they close the purse up america runs out of options.
Originally Posted By: turtlevette
There is a group of people called preppers who not only prepare and plan to do anything to stay alive but I truly believe are hoping something happens.
Most so-called preppers would need to be alerted via cable news or whatever paranoid websites they follow that there is a zombie uprising/ prison break/ race riot etc. The last 10% probably did time in the military and have legitimate training/ cat-like reflexes for "something amiss" that you can't just train for by yourself. And they'd be quiet about sharing the imminent signs they see on social media because they need to be contrarian to the general public to get ahead.
"Friend of a friend" is a "too much money prepper"/ hobby prepper and has a barn full of 1lb cans of propane and other useless stuff. During a couple-day power outage she didn't even use her Xantrex lead acid battery/ inverter/ solar panel gizmo because she was "saving it". For what?
We had a hermit up here who stole propane tanks off peoples' barbecues and lived in the woods, trespassing on private property and hiding his site. He didn't have facebook and didn't talk to anyone. Didn't need it, for 25 years. He had the right mindset, but of course it's not scalable to all of society.
There is a group of people called preppers who not only prepare and plan to do anything to stay alive but I truly believe are hoping something happens.
Most so-called preppers would need to be alerted via cable news or whatever paranoid websites they follow that there is a zombie uprising/ prison break/ race riot etc. The last 10% probably did time in the military and have legitimate training/ cat-like reflexes for "something amiss" that you can't just train for by yourself. And they'd be quiet about sharing the imminent signs they see on social media because they need to be contrarian to the general public to get ahead.
"Friend of a friend" is a "too much money prepper"/ hobby prepper and has a barn full of 1lb cans of propane and other useless stuff. During a couple-day power outage she didn't even use her Xantrex lead acid battery/ inverter/ solar panel gizmo because she was "saving it". For what?
We had a hermit up here who stole propane tanks off peoples' barbecues and lived in the woods, trespassing on private property and hiding his site. He didn't have facebook and didn't talk to anyone. Didn't need it, for 25 years. He had the right mindset, but of course it's not scalable to all of society.
Originally Posted By: The_Eric
Originally Posted By: friendly_jacek
Originally Posted By: MolaKule
Trust in government, in general, is at at an all time low due to the current administration and its un-Constitutional edicts.
ya, you conveniently forgot how the previous administration started all the un-Constitutional activities, duh!
this is a great example of selective amnesia. or is is paranoia?
I think you both conveniently forgot that "unconstitutional activities" have been going on since at least the communist scare of the 50's, and it's not exclusive to one party or another.
haha, good one.
The facts show that either party is hard to call clean. Corruption is running rampant through the entire government.
Note that China is quietly leveraging their debt holdings to try and turn them into American Real Estate! That's not paranoia, it's real.
Be nice if we could finally get past the "Waaah, Bush did it" and start looking squarely at the guy in charge. He's the one we elected to fix things...
Originally Posted By: friendly_jacek
Originally Posted By: MolaKule
Trust in government, in general, is at at an all time low due to the current administration and its un-Constitutional edicts.
ya, you conveniently forgot how the previous administration started all the un-Constitutional activities, duh!
this is a great example of selective amnesia. or is is paranoia?
I think you both conveniently forgot that "unconstitutional activities" have been going on since at least the communist scare of the 50's, and it's not exclusive to one party or another.
haha, good one.
The facts show that either party is hard to call clean. Corruption is running rampant through the entire government.
Note that China is quietly leveraging their debt holdings to try and turn them into American Real Estate! That's not paranoia, it's real.
Be nice if we could finally get past the "Waaah, Bush did it" and start looking squarely at the guy in charge. He's the one we elected to fix things...
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Originally Posted By: whip
Lately, it seems like people are getting really paranoid. On this forum, to me, paranoia seems really high.
A while back, I mentioned that I used Progressive's Snapshot. There were numerous post about not letting them collect info, they'll use the info against me, and Progressive is "out to get you". The worse thing that happened was my rates were lowered.
There was a post about guys trying to sell satellite TV in a neighborhood, and a large number of people were fearful of the neighborhood being set up for a big burglary.
If you mention Craig's List, you get a half dozen comments warning us that it's a scam.
It seems like every auto dealer or service center is run by Dr Evil and he's just waiting to steal your money.
Corporations and government are also evil doers that can't be trusted.
The list goes on. I'm always aware of my surroundings. I don't trust everyone, but I don't think the world is full of evil like so many here. Where does this paranoia come from?
Agreed. I have no issues with a healthy dose of skepticism, but there are a few here who seem to be convinced that everything and everyone is out to get them. I can't imagine living with that hanging over one's head all the time.
I would have no issues with something like Progressive's Snapshot, however our insurance is cheap enough that I wouldn't see any advantage. It's rare that we have anyone other than neighbors or friends pulling up in the driveway, but when a stranger pulls up I have no problem going out and having a conversation with them. I've never been frightened or been paranoid.
I've sold a number of items on Craig's List and never had a bad experience. A couple years ago a fellow from the other side of the state drove down to pick up some tractor tires I had advertised-since he arrived shortly before lunch we invited him in and he had lunch with us before his drive back.
I think there are a lot of anti-social and frightened people, and it's a sad way to live life.
Lately, it seems like people are getting really paranoid. On this forum, to me, paranoia seems really high.
A while back, I mentioned that I used Progressive's Snapshot. There were numerous post about not letting them collect info, they'll use the info against me, and Progressive is "out to get you". The worse thing that happened was my rates were lowered.
There was a post about guys trying to sell satellite TV in a neighborhood, and a large number of people were fearful of the neighborhood being set up for a big burglary.
If you mention Craig's List, you get a half dozen comments warning us that it's a scam.
It seems like every auto dealer or service center is run by Dr Evil and he's just waiting to steal your money.
Corporations and government are also evil doers that can't be trusted.
The list goes on. I'm always aware of my surroundings. I don't trust everyone, but I don't think the world is full of evil like so many here. Where does this paranoia come from?
Agreed. I have no issues with a healthy dose of skepticism, but there are a few here who seem to be convinced that everything and everyone is out to get them. I can't imagine living with that hanging over one's head all the time.
I would have no issues with something like Progressive's Snapshot, however our insurance is cheap enough that I wouldn't see any advantage. It's rare that we have anyone other than neighbors or friends pulling up in the driveway, but when a stranger pulls up I have no problem going out and having a conversation with them. I've never been frightened or been paranoid.
I've sold a number of items on Craig's List and never had a bad experience. A couple years ago a fellow from the other side of the state drove down to pick up some tractor tires I had advertised-since he arrived shortly before lunch we invited him in and he had lunch with us before his drive back.
I think there are a lot of anti-social and frightened people, and it's a sad way to live life.
Originally Posted By: Pop_Rivit
Originally Posted By: whip
Lately, it seems like people are getting really paranoid. On this forum, to me, paranoia seems really high.
A while back, I mentioned that I used Progressive's Snapshot. There were numerous post about not letting them collect info, they'll use the info against me, and Progressive is "out to get you". The worse thing that happened was my rates were lowered.
There was a post about guys trying to sell satellite TV in a neighborhood, and a large number of people were fearful of the neighborhood being set up for a big burglary.
If you mention Craig's List, you get a half dozen comments warning us that it's a scam.
It seems like every auto dealer or service center is run by Dr Evil and he's just waiting to steal your money.
Corporations and government are also evil doers that can't be trusted.
The list goes on. I'm always aware of my surroundings. I don't trust everyone, but I don't think the world is full of evil like so many here. Where does this paranoia come from?
Agreed. I have no issues with a healthy dose of skepticism, but there are a few here who seem to be convinced that everything and everyone is out to get them. I can't imagine living with that hanging over one's head all the time.
I would have no issues with something like Progressive's Snapshot, however our insurance is cheap enough that I wouldn't see any advantage. It's rare that we have anyone other than neighbors or friends pulling up in the driveway, but when a stranger pulls up I have no problem going out and having a conversation with them. I've never been frightened or been paranoid.
I've sold a number of items on Craig's List and never had a bad experience. A couple years ago a fellow from the other side of the state drove down to pick up some tractor tires I had advertised-since he arrived shortly before lunch we invited him in and he had lunch with us before his drive back.
I think there are a lot of anti-social and frightened people, and it's a sad way to live life.
Agree
Originally Posted By: whip
Lately, it seems like people are getting really paranoid. On this forum, to me, paranoia seems really high.
A while back, I mentioned that I used Progressive's Snapshot. There were numerous post about not letting them collect info, they'll use the info against me, and Progressive is "out to get you". The worse thing that happened was my rates were lowered.
There was a post about guys trying to sell satellite TV in a neighborhood, and a large number of people were fearful of the neighborhood being set up for a big burglary.
If you mention Craig's List, you get a half dozen comments warning us that it's a scam.
It seems like every auto dealer or service center is run by Dr Evil and he's just waiting to steal your money.
Corporations and government are also evil doers that can't be trusted.
The list goes on. I'm always aware of my surroundings. I don't trust everyone, but I don't think the world is full of evil like so many here. Where does this paranoia come from?
Agreed. I have no issues with a healthy dose of skepticism, but there are a few here who seem to be convinced that everything and everyone is out to get them. I can't imagine living with that hanging over one's head all the time.
I would have no issues with something like Progressive's Snapshot, however our insurance is cheap enough that I wouldn't see any advantage. It's rare that we have anyone other than neighbors or friends pulling up in the driveway, but when a stranger pulls up I have no problem going out and having a conversation with them. I've never been frightened or been paranoid.
I've sold a number of items on Craig's List and never had a bad experience. A couple years ago a fellow from the other side of the state drove down to pick up some tractor tires I had advertised-since he arrived shortly before lunch we invited him in and he had lunch with us before his drive back.
I think there are a lot of anti-social and frightened people, and it's a sad way to live life.
Agree
There are plenty of people out there that given half a chance will do harm. Rape, rob, kill, abduction, etc. It's real, and yet many people assume that if they live in a quiet 'crime free' neighborhood, it's safe. Wrong, that is exactly the sort of place that is easy meat to would be criminals. Being aware is not being paranoid, it's being realistic and being prepared should the worst happen. Maybe it never will, but it doesn't do any harm to make sure that you are covered to the best of your ability if it does. That's not any more paranoid than wearing a seat belt in a car or having a fire extinguisher in the kitchen.
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Originally Posted By: Clevy
The North american Indian refused to play by our rules,nor join our game. So we exterminated them.
It's funny. The whole scalping thing was the United states government. It was the way a person could collect the bounty.
That's right. The American government put a bounty on an entire nation and paid for proof of death.
Once the natives saw this they returned the favour. But the Indians are savages.
Right.
So if you look closely things haven't changed much. The American government still employs private citizens(private military contractors)to go and kill those who won't play by their rules. And if that doesn't work they send in the full time regulars to do it.
Sure they paint it as a war on terror,but let's get serious here. Who is the real terrorist.
If america wants to survive big changes need to happen. It's much more than just government.
There is a reason it seems like the whole world doesn't like america. It's not the people as a whole. In my experience there are some very good people there. It's foreign policy that turns the worlds guts.
And now that most manufacturing has gone to China America doesn't have the resources as they did in ww2. So it's a battle they can't win.
China is waiting. Once they close the purse up america runs out of options.
I was waiting for a Canadian to call you out, but that never seems to happen. Pot shots are mostly one way and that ain't right at all.
Do you understand you enjoy freedom and protection under our umbrella? I've always had a problem with you for good reason.
The North american Indian refused to play by our rules,nor join our game. So we exterminated them.
It's funny. The whole scalping thing was the United states government. It was the way a person could collect the bounty.
That's right. The American government put a bounty on an entire nation and paid for proof of death.
Once the natives saw this they returned the favour. But the Indians are savages.
Right.
So if you look closely things haven't changed much. The American government still employs private citizens(private military contractors)to go and kill those who won't play by their rules. And if that doesn't work they send in the full time regulars to do it.
Sure they paint it as a war on terror,but let's get serious here. Who is the real terrorist.
If america wants to survive big changes need to happen. It's much more than just government.
There is a reason it seems like the whole world doesn't like america. It's not the people as a whole. In my experience there are some very good people there. It's foreign policy that turns the worlds guts.
And now that most manufacturing has gone to China America doesn't have the resources as they did in ww2. So it's a battle they can't win.
China is waiting. Once they close the purse up america runs out of options.
I was waiting for a Canadian to call you out, but that never seems to happen. Pot shots are mostly one way and that ain't right at all.
Do you understand you enjoy freedom and protection under our umbrella? I've always had a problem with you for good reason.
I do not think we can say "people are paranoid lately". McCarthyism was in the 50-s and 60-s. There was a scare of commies in the 20-s. Prior to that people were scared of other groups.
Read this from 1964:
http://harpers.org/archive/1964/11/the-paranoid-style-in-american-politics/
Read this from 1964:
http://harpers.org/archive/1964/11/the-paranoid-style-in-american-politics/
"Just because you aren't Paranoid, it doesn't mean everyone isn't out to get you."
SO. TRUE. I don't remember where I read that one...
SO. TRUE. I don't remember where I read that one...
Originally Posted By: whip
Lately, it seems like people are getting really paranoid. On this forum, to me, paranoia seems really high.
...
Corporations and government are also evil doers that can't be trusted.
The list goes on. I'm always aware of my surroundings. I don't trust everyone, but I don't think the world is full of evil like so many here. Where does this paranoia come from?
I was going to say Fox News, but someone beat me to it:
Originally Posted By: gfh77665
Originally Posted By: whip
If you mention Craig's List, you get a half dozen comments warning us that it's a scam.
Corporations and government are also evil doers that can't be trusted.
Much on CL IS a scam. Not all, but much is!
Governments? ARE YOU KIDDING?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/04/...-lerner-emails/
Lately, it seems like people are getting really paranoid. On this forum, to me, paranoia seems really high.
...
Corporations and government are also evil doers that can't be trusted.
The list goes on. I'm always aware of my surroundings. I don't trust everyone, but I don't think the world is full of evil like so many here. Where does this paranoia come from?
I was going to say Fox News, but someone beat me to it:
Originally Posted By: gfh77665
Originally Posted By: whip
If you mention Craig's List, you get a half dozen comments warning us that it's a scam.
Corporations and government are also evil doers that can't be trusted.
Much on CL IS a scam. Not all, but much is!
Governments? ARE YOU KIDDING?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/04/...-lerner-emails/
MolaKule
Staff member
Originally Posted By: Clevy
...The North american Indian refused to play by our rules,nor join our game. So we exterminated them.
It's funny. The whole scalping thing was the United states government. It was the way a person could collect the bounty.
That's right. The American government put a bounty on an entire nation and paid for proof of death.
Once the natives saw this they returned the favour. But the Indians are savages...
Maybe you'd better read your AI history in more depth.
I am 3/4 AI (Shawnee and Cherokee).
Scalping of enemies was an original AI practice in order to prove the number of enemies killed. Scalping was usually done only to enemies who had committed serious crimes against their own tribe.
The other methods of killing were by the spear, knife, and arrow.
Ambush was usually by the arrow (effective up to 75 yards), while hand-to-hand combat was by the spear and knife.
Friendly skirmishes were done by the "coup" (koo) stick.
While I am no friend of Andrew Jackson, the main problem with the Indian tribes were they could not unite early enough, and in large enough numbers, to halt the encroachment of the "new" arrivals.
Another problem was the technology of warfare. The "new" arrivals warfare technology could reach and touch the enemy before the AI's arrows could.
One of our leaders, Tecumseh, traveled all over the then West and Southeast attempting to unite the tribes, but only met with moderate success, because each tribe was fiercely independent and autonomously governed.
...The North american Indian refused to play by our rules,nor join our game. So we exterminated them.
It's funny. The whole scalping thing was the United states government. It was the way a person could collect the bounty.
That's right. The American government put a bounty on an entire nation and paid for proof of death.
Once the natives saw this they returned the favour. But the Indians are savages...
Maybe you'd better read your AI history in more depth.
I am 3/4 AI (Shawnee and Cherokee).
Scalping of enemies was an original AI practice in order to prove the number of enemies killed. Scalping was usually done only to enemies who had committed serious crimes against their own tribe.
The other methods of killing were by the spear, knife, and arrow.
Ambush was usually by the arrow (effective up to 75 yards), while hand-to-hand combat was by the spear and knife.
Friendly skirmishes were done by the "coup" (koo) stick.
While I am no friend of Andrew Jackson, the main problem with the Indian tribes were they could not unite early enough, and in large enough numbers, to halt the encroachment of the "new" arrivals.
Another problem was the technology of warfare. The "new" arrivals warfare technology could reach and touch the enemy before the AI's arrows could.
One of our leaders, Tecumseh, traveled all over the then West and Southeast attempting to unite the tribes, but only met with moderate success, because each tribe was fiercely independent and autonomously governed.
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Originally Posted By: turtlevette
Originally Posted By: Clevy
The North american Indian refused to play by our rules,nor join our game. So we exterminated them.
It's funny. The whole scalping thing was the United states government. It was the way a person could collect the bounty.
That's right. The American government put a bounty on an entire nation and paid for proof of death.
Once the natives saw this they returned the favour. But the Indians are savages.
Right.
So if you look closely things haven't changed much. The American government still employs private citizens(private military contractors)to go and kill those who won't play by their rules. And if that doesn't work they send in the full time regulars to do it.
Sure they paint it as a war on terror,but let's get serious here. Who is the real terrorist.
If america wants to survive big changes need to happen. It's much more than just government.
There is a reason it seems like the whole world doesn't like america. It's not the people as a whole. In my experience there are some very good people there. It's foreign policy that turns the worlds guts.
And now that most manufacturing has gone to China America doesn't have the resources as they did in ww2. So it's a battle they can't win.
China is waiting. Once they close the purse up america runs out of options.
I was waiting for a Canadian to call you out, but that never seems to happen. Pot shots are mostly one way and that ain't right at all.
Do you understand you enjoy freedom and protection under our umbrella? I've always had a problem with you for good reason.
Carry on. I find you very entertaining.
Molekule
If I'm wrong about the bounty on Indian scalps I'll happily take it back and apologize.
I'm going to google it now.
Thank you for pointing it out if I am misinformed.
Originally Posted By: Clevy
The North american Indian refused to play by our rules,nor join our game. So we exterminated them.
It's funny. The whole scalping thing was the United states government. It was the way a person could collect the bounty.
That's right. The American government put a bounty on an entire nation and paid for proof of death.
Once the natives saw this they returned the favour. But the Indians are savages.
Right.
So if you look closely things haven't changed much. The American government still employs private citizens(private military contractors)to go and kill those who won't play by their rules. And if that doesn't work they send in the full time regulars to do it.
Sure they paint it as a war on terror,but let's get serious here. Who is the real terrorist.
If america wants to survive big changes need to happen. It's much more than just government.
There is a reason it seems like the whole world doesn't like america. It's not the people as a whole. In my experience there are some very good people there. It's foreign policy that turns the worlds guts.
And now that most manufacturing has gone to China America doesn't have the resources as they did in ww2. So it's a battle they can't win.
China is waiting. Once they close the purse up america runs out of options.
I was waiting for a Canadian to call you out, but that never seems to happen. Pot shots are mostly one way and that ain't right at all.
Do you understand you enjoy freedom and protection under our umbrella? I've always had a problem with you for good reason.
Carry on. I find you very entertaining.
Molekule
If I'm wrong about the bounty on Indian scalps I'll happily take it back and apologize.
I'm going to google it now.
Thank you for pointing it out if I am misinformed.
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