Fram ultra 11422miles Cut open

[Brybo86]

This is not an OG wire backed but the new style cheap media.
Was run from 166000 to 177422 , 11422 total miles on my 2012 Honda Odyssey.
First OCI was RGT 0w20 in August 2024 and then a Kirkland 0w20 and Pennzoil PUP 0w30 frankenbrew in March 2025

Small amount of deposits in bottom of the can, forgot to get a pic,

Please spacing left something to be desired

No deposits on bypass valve unlike my last FU post.

Media surprisingly brittle, tore with medium pressure from my finger, no tools needed.

 

[EvoMan]

If the media is kind of brittle, then I guess 11K is too long of an interval. Thanks for the pics.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Leaf spring looks pretty smooth, but I don't like the sides clipped out ... leaves almost zero sealing area where it mates with the end cap. I don't see an end cap shot without the leaf spring, but I bet it does not have the leaf spring seal in the end cap (based on it's not wire backed) unless the OP can verify. Fram got rid of the leaf spring seal about the same time when the media stopped being wire backed.

Good thing the pleats didn't have any wide spacing, or it could have torn in service based on the description of how brittle it was.

What's the date code on the can ... it has holes in the center tube, so it's not real new.

 

[Chris142]

Leaf spring looks pretty smooth, but I don't like the sides clipped out ... leaves almost zero sealing area where it mates with the end cap.

Ya that's bad.

 

[Japanese]

Too much on the filter and the oil too. I wouldn't run 0W-20 for more than 5-6K OCI.

 

[53' Stude]

This is not an OG wire backed but the new style cheap media.
Was run from 166000 to 177422 , 11422 total miles on my 2012 Honda Odyssey.
First OCI was RGT 0w20 in August 2024 and then a Kirkland 0w20 and Pennzoil PUP 0w30 frankenbrew in March 2025

Small amount of deposits in bottom of the can, forgot to get a pic,
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Please spacing left something to be desired
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No deposits on bypass valve unlike my last FU post.
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Media surprisingly brittle, tore with medium pressure from my finger, no tools needed.
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Looks ok. What went in and on? Thank Younsir

 

[KCJeep]

The filter is fine, albeit wavy. Brittle under finger pressure is interesting but doesn’t mean much, it clearly wasn’t bothered by the oil pressure.

 

[EvoMan]

Too much on the filter and the oil too. I wouldn't run 0W-20 for more than 5-6K OCI.

The way I read the OP’s post, is that he did 3 oils changes over the 11K miles all on the same filter, but I may be mistaken.

 

[Brybo86]

Leaf spring looks pretty smooth, but I don't like the sides clipped out ... leaves almost zero sealing area where it mates with the end cap. I don't see an end cap shot without the leaf spring, but I bet it does not have the leaf spring seal in the end cap (based on it's not wire backed) unless the OP can verify. Fram got rid of the leaf spring seal about the same time when the media stopped being wire backed.

Good thing the pleats didn't have any wide spacing, or it could have torn in service based on the description of how brittle it was.

What's the date code on the can ... it has holes in the center tube, so it's not real new.

No fiber seal like the OG ultras

 

[Brybo86]

Looks ok. What went in and on? Thank Younsir

In mobil1 EP 0w20 and a Pentius plxl7317

 

[Brybo86]

The way I read the OP’s post, is that he did 3 oils changes over the 11K miles all on the same filter, but I may be mistaken.

I started with RGT then did one oil change mid filter interval roughly 4000 miles(after winter cold starts) into the 11422 filter interval
The second oil used was a Kirkland and Pennzoil frankenbrew

 

[fantastic]

Looks okay and maybe the domed side walls seal up the leaf spring on some filters deeming the cut sides not necessary? Still think that slim metal sides should really give more coverage though. Like @KCJeep's expertise... It didn't tear & the spacing is a bit tight in that one area but certainly not bad as wide spacing. Thanks for sharing this 11k newest gen Ultra.

 

[Sayjac]

In my observation of post use cheapened media XG anecdotes, this ones media, not terrible. Seen significantly worse at much less miles. I don't care for the cut off bypass seal area on opposite sides. Should be full around entire circumference imo. It still may have sealed, or maybe not. Said for a while now, current XG a ~7500 mile-"max" filter. 20k rated, no.

Thanks for c&p.

 

[BobsArmory]

For some reason I thought they were using louvers on the center tube instead of holes for these filters

 

[Bettez88]

Did the leaf spring bypass seal properly and not leak light?

 

[Bettez88]

For some reason I thought they were using louvers on the center tube instead of holes for these filters

They go back and forth on which style they use. At least they do louvers good and they’re always open and way larger louvers than M&H

 

[ZeeOSix]

For some reason I thought they were using louvers on the center tube instead of holes for these filters

It's an older built Ultra, that's why it has holes and not louvers. So need the date code to know for sure.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Looks okay and maybe the domed side walls seal up the leaf spring on some filters deeming the cut sides not necessary?

Last photo shows it has nubs on the ID of the end cap, so no way to seal in that area.

 

[Brybo86]

Did the leaf spring bypass seal properly and not leak light?

I did not see evidence of leaks around bypass.
The previous ultra I cut open had deposits around the side of bypass valve indicating leakage

 

[Bettez88]

Hmm maybe I’ll have to buy one and test it out. Even though I change my oil at 3k