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Light rain falling in several fire areas. So far it's just enough to get the ground wet but it's a blessing. I guess the fire is falling out of the news but most places are still burning.

Roads are opening back up and people are going back to their houses in many areas. The complaints at the border with Mexico are easing. Many Mexicans were upset at the road closures because they could not come north for the free food and clothing at Qualcomm Stadium and other evacuation centers. They did get some help from Mecha and La Raza and now they are getting their fare share of the relief supplies and are happier now with the results. When they started arriving they did complain that much of the food was fresh food and for as much as they could carry away it would be difficult to get it back across the border. They are requesting that people donate more canned food. They have also complained about being delayed getting to the evacuation centers, that fire victims got most of the clothing being donated. Also that late fire on the Marine base closed highway 5 and stopped the buses from the Los Angles. There were complaints that again the fire victims were getting most of the donated food, shelter and clothing. It got harder to filter out the illegals because Mecha gave them maps and taught them what to say when they got to the evacuation centers so they would not be turned away. At least for the most part the evacuations went well and it was a case of people helping people. Many people did not donate to the Red Cross because of the corruption during the October fires. They came directly to the displaced people and helped them person to person. It really worked. These evac centers looked like family gatherings and it made all the difference. We had 22 people at our house with five motor homes parked on the property, 15 horses 12 pigs, a dozen goats, bunny rabbits and a 8 coyotes. Home Depot donated extension cords, ground tarps, a canopy and other stuff.
 
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The complaints at the border with Mexico are easing. Many Mexicans were upset at the road closures because they could not come north for the free food and clothing at Qualcomm Stadium and other evacuation centers. They did get some help from Mecha and La Raza and now they are getting their fare share of the relief supplies and are happier now with the results. When they started arriving they did complain that much of the food was fresh food and for as much as they could carry away it would be difficult to get it back across the border




You're just making this part up, right? The race? What a bunch of losers!!!
 
Nope, true. At our place we had to turn away illegals that want in on our barbecue. They saw us taking in people to feed them as we were caring for the horses and other animals. We finally had to call the Sheriff. He can't arrest them but he did chase them off. Then sat down for some food. At one place where they were setting up to feed people some illegals showed up and took the pots of meat, all of it. They were caught leaving because of the road block but no one wanted to eat the food after they touched it so we fed it to the coyotes that we have. A hungry coyote is not picky. The vast majority of people behaved themselves but the illegals did not. They also showed up at first-aid stations and demanded treatment for things unrelated to the fire. The problems with the illegals are nothing new and they know what they can get away with. The mexican government helps them with information before they cross over. They come here to be consumers, not citizens, that is a point that you must understand. Becoming a citizen means they would have to pay taxes and health care would no longer be free and they might not qualify for welfare and food stamps.
 
I live in Big Bear Lake, approximately five miles from the eastern edge of the Slide Fire (Green Valley Lake & Running Springs). The easterly winds blew the fire and smoke away from us during the most critical period.

Despite the close proximity to a fire that claimed over 200 houses we were one of the few places in SoCal that had clear blue skies!

The firefighters deserve a TON of credit. At the beginning of the incident there were heroes that spent a continuous 48 hours on the lines, not by design but out of necessity. It's hard enough work that most of us would be dead on our feet after an eight hour shift and some of these guys & gals were out there for 24, 36 and even 48 hours.

Hooray Firefighters!!!
 
Was down in San Clemente this weekend, the Camp Pendleton fire made it ~1.5miles away from my friend's place. Funny that they never mentioned how it was heading towards the nuclear power plant at San 'O.

Posted some various fire pics in this thread: CA fire pics
 
Years ago our unit lost a bunch of gear in a fire on Camp Pendlton. In another fire, I wasn't there, a friend said that the blast from one of the tanks started a fire, which the wind quickly carried back towards the stacks of 105mm ammo. He said you never saw a bunch of Marines move faster and stomp like crazy.

I use to live in Ranch Bernardo, and when I lived on the coast use to drive the Del Dios highway a fair amount. When I lived there though there was regular flooding in San Diego.
 
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They said the fires were arson I believe.




May be somebody has found his own way to warm up a cooling housing market ?




Well, rebuilding a few thousand homes will take quite a labor force. It's a good business opportunity for construction, construction supplies and mobile catering services. I'm waiting for L, his kids and grandkids to show how bona fide, red-blooded native or Native (lower case n, upper case N reserved for the indigenous peoples) Americans can rebuild without resorting to cheap and illegal laborers. The minimum wage has been raised, so getting their own hands dirty shouldn't be an issue for a citizen, right-o?
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I'm glad our neighbors did not behave like the people of New Orleans. People removed a bunch of stuff from businesses along the fire line and when everyone came back the business owners found nothing missing. A couple of people took shovels, rakes and other tools out of a small store to fight the fire on Monday and on Saturday came back and paid for them. This kind of stuff went on everywhere and is a bit different than what happened in New Orleans. There if you evacuated your home or business there was no chance of coming back to anything even without flood damage.

All the animals have been spoken for except the coyotes. We've released all of them except for a couple that are still getting treated for burns. The fire was a terrible tragedy but dealing with insurance companies and building permits is going to be almost as bad. Many homeowners from the 03 October fires were not finished with the rebuilding process and some had homes in the final stages of rebuilding only to get burned again.
 
I give up. Let's play my disaster is worse than yours. Not. "Did not behave like the people of New Orleans?" You post earlier about looters in the fire areas and armed citizen responses. And the difference between Cali and La in that regard would be... Huh? "Different than what happened in New Orleans." Where you here for Katrina? Media reports on looting and other criminal behavior after Katrina does not erase the heroism and countless acts of selflessness by the vast majority of those who went through the storm. Including those, like you, who rescued animals. One thing is pretty certain. No one can deliberately start a hurricane. Can you say arson? Sure you can. The mantra for the Gulf Coast (remember Missisippi got hit pretty good, too?) is "if you weren't here you don't have a clue."

Lonnie, you seem like a decent sort. But regarding Katrina you don't have a clue. BTW, I also have a Blue Heeler. Pure blooded rescue who wandered up one day after being mistreated by a dying neighbor. He is my shadow when I am outside. I am very fond of him.

Good luck with the insurance vultures. Now, go run off some more illegals before they steal your coyote food.
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I was on a rescue team from San Diego for Katrina. I was a past Navy IDC Corpsman and a Paramedic and have volunteered for several of these disasters. We worked a program to get prescription drugs to people that needed them and to go out and rescue injured people that got stranded by the flooding. I think I have at least an idea of what was happening. My comments about the difference was made from the perspective of being there. I know I did not see everything and had a myopic view at best but we had to have armed guards at our triage station and the atmosphere was a little tense. Things were very different there.

By the way, I'd like to swap some picture with you and see if you can help me identify a couple of dogs. And what does our handle translate to?
 
OK. You do have a clue. My apologies and thanks for your service at all levels. I still get a bit touchy when generalizations are made about the millions of people over several states affected by both 2005 storms with references to the few thugs the media wanted to highlight. I worked special needs shelters for two weeks after the storm and Blackwater provided security. It was rough in a lot of places. Rant off.

My forum name is a combination of my three Nissan vehicle model designations still rolling thanks to BITOG. 92 and 96 Pickups and a 96 Sentra.

Please feel free to forward pics. I am no canine id expert. My pack consists of 4 Rat Terriers, a lab, boxer, the ACD, and a junk yard mutt. What can I say? Mrs. 929 likes to rescue strays. I was one of the first so it's kind of hard for me to object at this stage of the game.
 
I like coyotes a lot better then many people I meet in day to day business. Our female coyote is a better mother than many humans.
 
We let Zelda the female coyote go this morning while we started cleaning up the fire damage. After a couple of hours she came back, right to were I was sitting and curled up and went to sleep at my feet. If anyone approached me besides my wife Zelda growled and when they backed off she went back to sleep. I think I'm going to have trouble getting her to go back where she belongs. I think the problem will soon take care of itself because after loosing her pup in the fire and finally getting off the antibiotics she has gone into estrus. Tonight we will find out if the call of the wild works.
 
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